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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    Stezza said:

    select the blending mode... leave mouse pointer there and scroll away.... seeemples cool

    Thanks for the pic.  But my mouse must be set up different from yours.  Doesn't work, unfortunately.

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited June 2017
    Stezza said:

    that's why I can't stand sitting around for an hour or more rendering with iRay or the other ones as I always take it into PS and change evrything anyways...

    I did a render the other day... took over two hours.... I had other things to do and when I checked later that's what it took.... big waste of my time if I wasn't doing something else as I loaded it into PS after and changed it all with layers, brushes, erasers and anything else I can use... I noticed in a few posts in the commons the discussion on V8 was that most are happy to push the button in DS to do it all... that's when you get the same as same as.. to each their own though I guess.

     

    yes, same same same

    I've been fortunate to have plenty of feedback from lots o f well known 'places' -

    my feeling is that there is a big movement against 3d looking work (in publishing)  - hence my efforts to try and learnt to get away from ' the look'

    Iray renders are so good they are starting to look photographic - there's nothing so boreing as perfection

    that's what I told my dentist when he offered to fix my teeth.

     

     

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  • BC RiceBC Rice Posts: 591

    Didn't want to start a new thread since it's really only pertinent to NPRs, but I've seen a few folks struggle with line renders. Thought I could save a few folks here some headaches. If you're using a 3rd party program to get your line art (which you probably should) you'll want to make sure to have a color blocked version of your renders. Doesn't take much time. Just use flat colors. Then use your 3rd party line render and the Multiply the layer over your base render. And make sure to save your Global shaders in the shading bin. 

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited June 2017

    Great advice - thanks Mr Rice :)

    Today's sillyness from me: An offshhot of an Advent Calender I did a few years ago for our City Council.

    Fort Scratchley is one of our tourist attractions.

     

     

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    head wax said:

    Great advice - thanks Mr Rice :)

    Today's sillyness from me: An offshhot of an Advent Calender I did a few years ago for our City Council.

    Fort Scratchley is one of our tourist attractions.

     

     

    Like it

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582

    V4 and V8

     

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145

    Clever title - and great image too!

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Thanks Bunyip02, great image the bonnet up is a good compositional thing.

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    head wax said:
    I've been looking at a lot of 'npr' work in different threads and after a while it's depressing

    like M4, you see M4 in a render and you know it's M4 (mostly) morphed.

    From what I've seen a lot of artists are using one photoshop action etc (not Carrara artists!)  and expecting a masterpiece -

    it makes you question your own work because you recognise the style. I don't think I've seen much that really does look 'hand made' - unless it's been worked over by hand.

    maybe I'm wrong :) hope so!

    I've read this about four times, each time hoping that I would understand your point.  No luck so far. :)

    Here is what I gather so far:

    1.  M4 and standard morphs are overused.

    2.  People use a single photoshop filter and expect a masterpiece.  (Aren't some Carrara artists doing this as well?)

    3.  You question your own work because you recognize the style?  Lost me.

    4.  Not much looks "hand made" unless it has been worked over by hand.  (filters alone aren't cutting it?)

    5.  You hope that you are wrong.  About what?

    Any clarification is appreciated!

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    ha ha, well that's me, I type and then I think

     

    let's see... the first time I saw this  https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f9/3f/d2/f93fd22e34060218ff934c95d79a2b12.jpg

    I was in love, I was 19 I think. But then later on I realised I hadn't seen the real thing, just a bad copy....

    So the moral is, the more you listen to a song that you thought was terrific, the more you hate it ...

    Let's see, forget about that. :)

    I think it's about secrecy of genesis and the diminshing theory of ice-cream cone satisfaction.  The more ice creams you eat in on session the less you enjoy them.

    Once you pin the butterfly down then you have killed it's beauty. 

    Okay, that's just blah sorry....

    But seriously..... 

    1) You need to use a figure for a while to recognise the cliches. 

    2) Carrara artists? Not that I am aware of.

    3) It's good to question your work. When I say 'style', I means that I can see in my work filters that others are using. I would prefer it if it the genesis was hidden. 

    4) A combination of filters will cut it ..... some of the time, if used with subtley?

    5) I hope I am wrong that only hand made stuff looks hand made. :) 

    Have a look through this excellent thread and try and identify the filters that are being applied :)

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/54697/non-photorealistic-renders-npr#latest

    I guess the beauty of Genesis is that the morphs are pretty endless

     

     

     

  • cdordonicdordoni Posts: 583
    head wax said:
     

    3) It's good to question your work. When I say 'style', I means that I can see in my work filters that others are using. I would prefer it if it the genesis was hidden. 

     

    5) I hope I am wrong that only hand made stuff looks hand made. :)

    Re. 3) You could make your own filters :)

    Re. 5) I think you are right, only handmade stuff does look handmade. Randomization and noise only go so far ... they are predictably unpredictable. Its very amazing that we can almost instantly tell when something is not handmade. Somehow we innately identify human imperfect from mathematical processes.

     

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050
    edited June 2017

    typical Australian.... I understood it all frown

     

    now where did I put that chocolate milk..... hmmm

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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588

    HW, thanks for attempting to explain.  I got most of it.  As always, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts.

    I suspect that you are using the term "genesis" in two different ways?  One is in reference to the genesis character, and the other is...(the secrecy of genesis)?

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    cdordoni said:
    head wax said:
     

    3) It's good to question your work. When I say 'style', I means that I can see in my work filters that others are using. I would prefer it if it the genesis was hidden. 

     

    5) I hope I am wrong that only hand made stuff looks hand made. :)

    Re. 3) You could make your own filters :)

    Re. 5) I think you are right, only handmade stuff does look handmade. Randomization and noise only go so far ... they are predictably unpredictable. Its very amazing that we can almost instantly tell when something is not handmade. Somehow we innately identify human imperfect from mathematical processes.

    3) good point - :) I might be better at 4) though - my hand is steadier than my brain :)

     

    @Stezza, sorry there was some truth within the mud :)

     

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited June 2017

    bit of topaz and multitude layers of post work

     

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited June 2017

     

     

    UnifiedBrain said:

    HW, thanks for attempting to explain.  I got most of it.  As always, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts.

    I suspect that you are using the term "genesis" in two different ways?  One is in reference to the genesis character, and the other is...(the secrecy of genesis)?

    Hi UB. sorry just saw this! Ah yes Genesis and genesis :) The non capital  'genesis' as 'the begiining' of. (Sorry for ending a sentence in a preposition there)

    Not that I am biblically minded. 

     

     

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    head wax said:

    bit of topaz and multitude layers of post work

     

     

    Nice, prefer this one.

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    edited June 2017

    Dogfight - Toon! part III then Filter Forge Chinaware painting filter

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050
    edited June 2017

    loving these posts.... heart yes

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

     

     

    Bunyip02 said:

    Dogfight - Toon! part III then Filter Forge Chinaware painting filter

    wow those two work together hand in hand :) must try it!

    Bunyip02 said:

     

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    Stezza said:

    loving these posts.... heart yes

    ha ha ha , knowing the genesis for this makes it even funnier - and the rebranded ice-scream (Peters?) :)

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited June 2017

    almost on topic,

    this well known Australian Artists uses Carrar to design some of his sculptures then 3d prints them and assembles them, then paints them (/.I think)

    here's a link to his latest show, you have to be looged in on facebook to see them sorry

    https://www.facebook.com/fred.braat.1/media_set?set=a.1395672867180625.1073741866.100002137752769&type=3

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050

    can't see that link.. it must be a personal page frown

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Sorry Stezza , it's interesting work, I'll ask him to make it public.  . . It's important because he is taking things a few steps forward. Like yourself. 

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    Stezza said:

    loving these posts.... heart yes

    Excellent - then there is strawberry milk, bannana flavoured milk, lime flavoured milk, and that great staple coffee flavoured milk.

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    edited June 2017

    Dinokonda & Hydra - Filter Forge - Old Book Illustrator filter

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    Bunyip02 said:

    Dinokinda & Hydra - Filter Forge - Old Book Illustrator filter

    I'm adding this one to the best of Bunyip Pile.

    Bunyip02 said:

     

     

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582
    edited June 2017

    Todays render - Blue Dragon & friend - Filter Forge Chinaware painting filter

     

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,582

    Off Road - Filter Forge Chinaware painting filter

     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,165

    Chinaware, have not tried it myself.  Now that is a fun one! 

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