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Agreed. Not much of interest for me today and the minimum price is pushing me more and more toward not renewing my priemer membership when it expires.
Yep. 100%. I've gotten a lot of value out of my Premier membership so far. But the minimum prices really do devalue the tokens, which are one of the advertised perks of membership. I'm seriously considering not renewing.
Maybe I should thank Daz, though. Because of this ill-conceived development, I've saved 100% off my purchases the last few days.
Want to add my voice that surprise/undisclosed base prices are no bueno.
If the goal is to avoid cross-promotion stacking, I recommend using base percentages rather than base dollars in the formula. With dollar bases, the big bundles can still get crazy discounts and small products (under $5 for example) stay nearly full priced. But please disclose the formula in the fine print.
In any case, if I can't reach my buying threshold (percentage quota, dollar sanity check, and factors in the cost of Premiere or Plus membership), I won't transact!
Actually, the base prices are stated for each category. I think DAZ got the message these need to be clearly posted.
Oh yes, that discount chocolate. I'll do the same thing myself!
Great! Thanks
Similar here. I don't think that whoever is working at Daz promotions understands that the price is the factor when buying. Just because I have, let's say $20 budget for Daz, doesn't mean I'll spend it on 5 "minimum price $4" items while I would have happily spent it on 6 $3.5 items paying even $1 (or more) extra, because they came with no minimum price: just because I have $20 spend, doesn't mean I will if I feel like I'm not getting a good deal. When someone has $100 budget and is used to being able to buy 10-40 (or even more sometimes) products, they won't likely spend the same $100 when they can barely get 10 products for it. They'll just not spend the money at all.
And even big spenders, unless they write off models as business expenses and therefore don't care, will feel that their money is worth less and less.
I feel the same way. The number of items I've been able to get with the same money is a lot less these days, but for me personally, a lot of the products just don't interest me. Look at today's Valentine releases; a lot of it is the same old stuff we get all the time, but as pricey as ever. I'm not spending another $10 for that bodysuit when I received three pieces of lingerie with the Elena Bundles last week (that look a lot better anyway). It's just weird, too. 2 products related to female privates? I don't like that of that (femalr or male) being in the Daz store; the BDSM stuff was far enough.
So today we have a choice of just TWO items for $1.99 and we need to purchase a new item for that? I remember pages of $1.99 items. Glad I stocked up then. I have a feeling these new $3.00-$5.00 caps may have something to do with PAs complaining. I know the PAs deserve a lot for their work, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on items I never would have purchased otherwise when prices were low enough to justify it, just in case I MAY need them some time in the future. Even if the PA just makes $1.00, that's a dollar they would have never received. And from hundreds of people probably. But at this point, shopping here has become a game. I started here a looong time ago and I already own so much, there's no way I'm going to spend money on new items unless I can get the price to at least 60% off and it triggers massive discounts for other products I actually want. But If I see I can get an item for under 50 cents and it's different enough from something I already own, I'll buy it, even if I don't see an immediate use for it. I feel like the Daz store is a collection game now more than an asset store lol.
That said, I guess for newbies today's deals could be good. I already own or passed on so many of those items, it's not worth it to me, Those of us who complain must have been here way too long lol!
This exactly. I do have a fixed Daz budget, and I won't go over that. However, my Daz budget is my "treat money" (or monthly allowance, if you want to look at it that way) and I've currently been spending it on Daz because I could get a useful amount of stuff that brings me joy for that X amount of money. When I no longer feel like I'm getting a useful amount of stuff, or it's no longer bringing me joy, that money's going to go elsewhere (and not necessarily even to 3D assets) and I'll just make do with what I have.
I mean, is that elaborate environment with all the amazing props worth (floor price)? For the amount of work put in, yeah, probably, unless it's super dated and needs a lot of tweaking to bring it up to current standards. But when I'm buying the whole thing just because I need one item and I am unlikely to use the rest? That coffee table (or whatever) is not worth (floor price) to me.
And really, this floor price thing is turning me off as fast as anything listed as "does not stack with other offers." Don't tell me if I spend money I can have tokens to get a bargain, and if I subscribe to something I can have discount coupons and get tokens faster... when you're not going to let those discounts work to the extent advertised. Bad taste in my mouth, 0/10, does not bring joy. It's bad enough the sales are janky as often as they are.
While I'm not behind the scenes and don't know the specifics, this whole thing feels like they came up with this Premier idea, rolled it out, but hadn't thought through how that would work in practice and suddenly realized they'd shot themselves in the foot, so now they're trying a patch job to compensate for their oversight rather than have to think through how their various concurrent promotions interact. Which, I'm sorry, but that's a them-problem.
I do still buy G3 hairs & clothing (and have more interest in them than I do most new triggers/buy-ins). But I've more than enough characters. So yeah, discount chocolate tomorrow!
If I get another Premier, It's going to be mostly to use on free bundles and 1 or 2 $10 codes. Those suit my buying patterns better than tokens, anyways. Especially as I was right that the floor prices devalue them.
...on e other hand, having advertised floor prices does save me a lot of time trying to figure out if I can build a worthwhile cart. So I guess there's that.
I don't see how the new floor prices are connected to Premier. If you apply tokens to lower the price, it doesn't matter how you got the tokens. Sure, Premier allows people to accumulate tokens faster, but many people who aren't Premier members have sizeable stashes of tokens. My guess is the floor pricing is driven by PAs- and that's just a guess. Maybe raising prices hasn't worked so floor pricing was the next step.
Yeah, personally for example I use Gen3 for background/additional characters whilst gen 8.1 as my main front ones, I've enjoyed picking up things for gen 3 anywhere from 0.50 to 1.50 ish regularly, as thats a price point that works for me justify it for background stuff, I won't be paying $3 for gen 3 stuff because when I bought like 10 things for 10 dollars, in the past that would only be 3 items now within 10, and that is a huge impact
Likewise, even with Gen8/8.1 with a min $4, again I barely have ever bought stuff over that price unless it was something I really wanted/needed for an idea I had, otherwise I just bought stuff I'd wishlisted when they went on at a nice sale price, $4 means I won't even open the deal page, as the a lot of the stuff wouldn't even be 80% off, let alone my target aim of 90%
No doubt many people have sizeable stashes of tokens, but my thought was that with Premier, more people would have those stashes (due to the perk of being able to earn them faster) so more people would be taking advantage of bigger discounts because of the increased number of tokens in circulation. Which could understandably start hitting PA pocketbooks in ways that don't work for them, and they'd be upset about that. Tokens weren't enough of a problem to establish floor prices before Premier, just the occasional "does not stack" promotion. And they'd come and go, too, but now they kind of can't because they're part of the perks. If tokens weren't the problem, the floor price would only apply to stacking the various promotions, with the tokens able to break through the floor and work in full. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Maybe it's meant to incentivize making more purchase with fewer tokens each?
Speaking for myself - as someone who does spend what is probably a bit more than average here at the Daz store - I have a price point on everything at the store. (Not - literally - everything, but you get the idea.) There are things, perfectly good things, that I would not download for free, because I'm not interested and it's not worth the opportunity cost of filling my hard drive. On the other hand, there are a few certain things that I will buy the day they come out at intro-day discounts. In between is the vastness of everything else, which has a price point, and these base prices will definitely affect my purchasing of those things. I get that that for PAs this is business and they need - and deserve - to have sales make it worth their while to make nice stuff for us to buy. But conversely, the simple truth is, a vast percent of Daz store stuff is something that I will either buy at a sufficiently interesting discount ... or I won't buy it all.
I'm sort of lost here. Floor price? I do not understand.
I wouldn't take anything going on today too seriously. I think this is a "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" thing. I could, of course, be wrong.
The concept of what is an acceptable price does vary from site to site. Historically, Daz has captured the lion's share of my content dollars, but it's largely driven by favorable pricing strategies. If Daz store is going to be as expensive as other stores on a per item basis, I will spend noticeably less. It is the way of things. We shall see what happens at MM.
The "floor price" is the lowest price DAZ will allow an item to be discounted. If you look at the Valentine's Day Sale page, the various categories have a minimum price in the terms and conditions. For the G8 category, for example, the minimum price is $4.00.
I like the minimum price because it clarifies any questions I might have about Daz shopping. Reminds me of something Zappa said: "At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." We're almost there. But you can always make new scenery in AI for "free." Or move to the Metaverse.
If anything, the floor price reduces the amount of tokens you'd want to use so it can actually save you a few. I don't like a minimum price either, but it's not designed to devalue the discounts. $4 is $4, but if you're dropping money on today's items and hit a wall with a token not reducing it below that amount, it's best to save that one for another purchase, and you've done a good job of discounting the overpriced items today anyway.
This assumes there'd be something later you'd want to spend the tokens on, though. Very much not a guarantee, at least for me. If I do actually find something I want to buy, I'd want the ability to use all my tokens on it, not "save" a few for later, when they'll likely just expire. At that point, that's a waste, not a savings.
Maybe you'll use it later, maybe not. It's always a gamble. I like having them for two weeks at a time now so there's much more flexibility before they expire. You could also find another item to add that'll make using the token worthwhile to try and keep it at that $4 minimum. That's a better utilization of it, rather than let them sit and expire since you're going to be around that $4 threshold anyway. Even better, if you have Premier and you can get to the mighty $5 mark you'll get one of them back! Or two depending on the day!
I see that now. Thanks!
I usually look forward to Daz March Madness, but maybe not this year.
Don't give up on it before it's arrived! We may be surprised.
so no more $0.94 products, at least for now...so If your tokens, coupon, or whatever would have taken it to $0.52 for example, it would only go down as far as the minimum, thus losing token value. I buy DO items with my coupon to get it to $o/free as often as possible.Are DO getting minimum price as well? That's really terrible, actually.
Coupon (6/10 out of DOs) did reduce the price of Daz Originals all the way to 0 even if a minimal price is active. No idea about the other coupon, I already used it this month.
Where can you choose to only use 6 tokens instead of the full 8 if you have 8 or more tokens?