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"Minimum price after discount is 5 dollars."
This is a new rule/exclusion added to the Featured Artist selection on today's Love With an Edge page.
Wow. It will now be harder to check for correct stacking and other Daz math issues. It could devalue any tokens being spent on the cart depending on how/when Daz applies them.
Wow. Missed that one. That's really not cool. Can't use tokens or a mothly coupon on some of the things I was going to pick up today.
Welp.... *cart emptied*
Thanks bunches for pointing that out!
Yikes, hopefully that's not an everyday thing. That makes impulse buys from there a hard "no" - I buy a lot, but almost exclusively at the 80+% discount range.
I'm really hoping they don't apply this to anything else ever again. It devalues tokens, devalues Daz+/Premier, and is, in general, yet another anti-customer move from Daz.
I don't like to see this new limitation either. I've run into similar limitations on other sites (one of them has a maximum discount of 50% even if points could increase the discount more than 50%). Hope this isn't a new policy at the DAZ store.
I sensed some changes were coming during the sale over this past weekend. Many of the featured PAs listed only one item (I realize they don't have to list everything); some of them listed only antiques. Maybe I'm just reading more into it than is there...
Agreed.
I understand that PAs might not be willing to sell their products under $5 (fair), but if Daz is going to agree to that (fair), they can't be incentivizing customers with multiple discounts (tokens, coupons, buy-ins) that ultimately can't be used.
Yeah I agree. Maybe some PAs complained about the heavy discounts at one point or another and I can understand their issue with it. It's definitely an issue if the PA doesn't agree to their products regularly available at extremely lower prices than suggested. If that were the case, I'd imagine Daz themselves eat that difference compared to it all from the PA (or maybe they split it).
Whatever the reason, if they put a minimum on spending, they need to actually give us more incentives to reduce the prices of products so we'll actually be okay with that minimum. $5 is just the start and it's also a very slippery slope. I'd be okay with a minimum if I get to keep some tokens, an extra coupon, or just in general the prices were lowered to compensate for that minimum. I wouldn't mind having to spend a set amount if I were able to aquire a lot more products, but I don't foresee any of those concessions happening.
So... the BIG PRINT shouts "Get 50% off and another 50% off for certain items..." while the small print results in some products getting just 17% off? Wow...
It's pretty buggy too: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/9064546/#Comment_9064546
Although $5 might seem like a reasonable min price from a PA's perspective, I can't remember the last time I paid that much for an item apart from bundles or the new release that triggers the extra discounts. I have bought a lot of stuff for less than $1, and I would say the average I have paid is around $2.
I certainly hope this min price does not become a habit, particularly during the major sales. Would be silly if we all had to switch to buying bundles only to get a decent % off.
I don't have an issue with the $5 amount, but on the principle that it might become a thing and like I said earlier, it's a slippery slope. It also devalues many of the tools we use to discount items. I'm hoping it's an experiment but if it does become more commonplace, there will be a pretty big outcry. It'll boost Richard on getting his post count to 200k, too.
Yeah few too many lucky stacking discounts probably upset some PAs. Not sure whos winning though because i defeintely will be spending less if this gets slapped on every banner.
I could understand this on NEW items, but not on older stuff.
I feel the same way, especially on the older items. Hopefully DAZ doesn't use this policy for the upcoming March sale, but I would be more surprised if we didn't see it. I say that not to be negative, it's just that other sites have a variety of limitations on discounts. My feeling is the PAs are well aware of this, and have made it known to DAZ. This is all purely speculation on my part, but the overtly tepid selection of featured PA products over this past weekend sale seemed more like a protest to me.
If the older stuff is going to get set at $5 minimum, my wishlist is about to get VASTLY shorter. My WL is mostly "maybe someday if it's at a good price" or things that might be handy eventually that I don't want to have to track down again if the need does arise... and a whole lot of that is not nor will ever be worth $5 to me.
Yeah, I also hope that the $5 minimum price after discount does not become a frequent thing. If it does, it will surely impact my shopping habits, i.e. I will buy less frequently and spend less money.
DAZ's business decisions may manage to do what my (lack of) self-control hasn't -- cut my spending. Won't be renewing DAZ+ because of the changes, passing on Gift Card deals because of the buy-in and/or limiting 20% discount to Premier, and now a minimum price after discount? To be fair I bought a (smaller than I would have) Gift Card yesterday before the discount was posted. WTH? They should be posted at the beginning of the day. I'm not happy about the changes but they could end up saving me money.
Not counting the three Daz+ items yesterday to get the discount on the gift card I bought, I haven't bought anything in almost two weeks. This sort of thing doesn't help bring me back to the store to buy stuff - it's the opposite of what entices buyers like me to feel spendy and fill up a cart.
Maybe March madness will give a different kind of madness
Maybe all those PAs that joined last year will start to leave and we will have Farewell Sales :D
I love the unique sense of humor this forum has.
On a more serious note, it wouldn't surprise me if you turned out to be right.
That would be a real disappointment to me, if there were a mass exodus. Some of the recent PAs are among my favorites, and I've purchased quite a bit of their items on other sites. I'm happy they're here on DAZ. It would be a loss for all involved, in my view. The PAs would lose access to the largest single store, for one thing.
Hopefully they're just experimenting with sales volume vs item price sales. I admit, I spent a lot of money just before my Premier expired and the prices were 93% off before tokens. I'm ashamed to say how much, but I cleared around 25 pages off my wishlist. Those were items I wasn't massively interested in but would happily stock up on at those prices. I hope that means artists got more money out of me than they otherwise would've have. I guess they'll find out when the 30 day window ends.
Obviously gotta have a membership to take full advantage of the offer. Only question is, if it's worthwhile to do that. I would argue, it works if you already have a membership, something leftover from the Before Times. Otherwise, this is not really the right time to buy in. Nothing special going on. I will say, there is often a correlation between GC offers and something interesting happening on the site - Not guaranteed, but it often seems to work that way here - Get a GC offer followed closely with some promotion tempting one to spend the contents of the GC.
Remember: the last couple years it was one "March Meh-ness" after the other
I will disagree and say last MM - especially St Patty's Day through Easter was one of the best sale periods I can remember in a long time. It was off to kind of a slow start, but it really kicked into gear and lived up to the name! I give it 3 cheers!
St. Pat's Day was awesome. I'd kind of lost hope before that, and most of what came after wasn't inspiring, either... until at the very end when suddenly things turned favorable. Those discounts inspired me to put together a cart that days later I was reminding myself was completely reasonable as an expenditure given how much I got for it and that I hadn't really spent much for a while before that, and it was nailing down a lot of base stuff that was holding me up.
I'm the sort of buyer that (with very rare exception) doesn't buy stuff unless it's at a very significant discount. If something isn't affordable (to me) enough, I simply won't buy it. So for folk like me, that $5 bottom limit is a dumb policy, because now instead of getting some amount of money from me for that item, Daz/PA gets $0. And if they cap the discounts, there's even less incentive to participate in some version of subscription plan.
I'm sure they'll look at their numbers in aggregate, though, and that'll be what determines how things go. If I'm priced out, so be it, I guess. Businesses will always look out for themselves more than their customers, and that's just the way of it. At least I had a chance to get a decent library before it hit.
The last March Madness was very nice, with that Pot of Gold thing a pretty nice little addition. My library experienced some extraneous bloat during that period. I also hope the minimum spending is an experiment.
I spent a full $ 1.79 here in March 2024. For the whole month. Seems we have very different needs when it comes to buying here ;)
That seems likely, and that's OK!