Carrara Non Photo Realistic Works

SileneUK

Hi HW/Andrew... I think I need to make the environment scenes less busy, then perhaps they will give a better illustration render. Trouble is, I need the photo-realism for some uses, so I will have to then strip a simplified verson out to generate an NPR look so the lower levels do not look harsh, but blended.  Stezza's workflow looks promising.  The people I am OK with... smoothing out a face after reducing the colour levels is doable so they do not look like a geological feature with elevations! But when I reduce levels in scenes where there are hard angles, such as furniture using they often get that 'bent' look.   Nature scenes are more forgiving without those hard lines, but when I need to show a fruit or nut bush, eg... I have to use the reveal brush in DAP to bring back the fruit so it is recognisable.  I also do not want to have 'paint' textures or media textures so as to present a more illustrated image.

Getting there... thanks for your interest and ideas!

  Silene

Bunyip02

Along came a spider and sat down beside her....

Headwax

SileneUK_Carrara said:

Hi HW/Andrew... I think I need to make the environment scenes less busy, then perhaps they will give a better illustration render. Trouble is, I need the photo-realism for some uses, so I will have to then strip a simplified verson out to generate an NPR look so the lower levels do not look harsh, but blended.  Stezza's workflow looks promising.  The people I am OK with... smoothing out a face after reducing the colour levels is doable so they do not look like a geological feature with elevations! But when I reduce levels in scenes where there are hard angles, such as furniture using they often get that 'bent' look.   Nature scenes are more forgiving without those hard lines, but when I need to show a fruit or nut bush, eg... I have to use the reveal brush in DAP to bring back the fruit so it is recognisable.  I also do not want to have 'paint' textures or media textures so as to present a more illustrated image.

Getting there... thanks for your interest and ideas!

  Silene

hey Silene - certainly sounds like you know what you are looking for.! Only thing I can suggest is that you keep in mind that in traditional work the centre of interest usually has the brightest saturation and contrast - and that often it's the only place in a work that you will see pure white.

other thing is that when a work is really busy - eg distante greenish landscape - adding a stopping point of highly saturated cad red (very small) in the distance let's the eye rest before it goes o n it's wander around the image

 

Headwax

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Along came a spider and sat down beside her....

Great album cover - Ziggy Starduist and the spiders from mars :)

 

Headwax

here's a discovery rendering an image with Carrara' native toon renderer and renedring out a post effect pass

if you invert that post effect pass it gives you back a whole lot of shadows - but slightly different

Headwax

cupla plays with Photdonut and affinity tone mapping  - sorry these are copied and pasted from facebook and will vanish eventually :(

 

SileneUK

Headwax_Carrara said:

SileneUK_Carrara said:

 

hey Silene - certainly sounds like you know what you are looking for.! Only thing I can suggest is that you keep in mind that in traditional work the centre of interest usually has the brightest saturation and contrast - and that often it's the only place in a work that you will see pure white.

other thing is that when a work is really busy - eg distante greenish landscape - adding a stopping point of highly saturated cad red (very small) in the distance let's the eye rest before it goes o n it's wander around the image

 

Wow... thanks!!     Silene

Headwax

plasuer I can ramble on as much as you want :)

 

Headwax_Carrara said:

Here's something on worked on a while ago. "Medieval Beekepers."

According to https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/national-honey-bee-day-save-species-decline-pollinators-environment-pesticides-a8461426.html

"... one-third of the UK’s bee population has disappeared over the past decade and 24 per cent of Europe’s bumblebees are now threatened with extinction. 

Given that bees pollinate around one-third of food crops and 90 per cent of wild plants, which in turn provide food for livestock, the implications of this ecological disaster are alarming for biodiversity, the food chain and, ultimately, our ability to feed ourselves."

This work is modelled vaguley after The Beekeepers and the Birdnester by Pieter Bruegel the Elder , 1568.

 

 

 

 

 

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Along came a spider and sat down beside her....

Great album cover - Ziggy Starduist and the spiders from mars :)

 

Thanks

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

cupla plays with Photdonut and affinity tone mapping  - sorry these are copied and pasted from facebook and will vanish eventually :(

 

Like the top one most !!!

Bunyip02

SileneUK_Carrara said:

Hi HW/Andrew... I think I need to make the environment scenes less busy, then perhaps they will give a better illustration render. Trouble is, I need the photo-realism for some uses, so I will have to then strip a simplified verson out to generate an NPR look so the lower levels do not look harsh, but blended.  Stezza's workflow looks promising.  The people I am OK with... smoothing out a face after reducing the colour levels is doable so they do not look like a geological feature with elevations! But when I reduce levels in scenes where there are hard angles, such as furniture using they often get that 'bent' look.   Nature scenes are more forgiving without those hard lines, but when I need to show a fruit or nut bush, eg... I have to use the reveal brush in DAP to bring back the fruit so it is recognisable.  I also do not want to have 'paint' textures or media textures so as to present a more illustrated image.

Getting there... thanks for your interest and ideas!

  Silene

Post a few of your renders so we can see how you are progressing Silene !!!

Bunyip02

Another Alien

Diomede

Just circling back to get caught upon this thread.  You folks have been amazing. Jst a couple notes on the most recent page. 

Bunyip, I love your recent trend experimening with colors.  I wouldn't want to meet most of your subjects, but the effects have been fun to watch.

Headwax, you have convinced me to track down Photodonut.  Unfortunately, there are more things to learn than any of us have time for.  Must prioritize.

 

Headwax

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

SileneUK_Carrara said:

Hi HW/Andrew... I think I need to make the environment scenes less busy, then perhaps they will give a better illustration render. Trouble is, I need the photo-realism for some uses, so I will have to then strip a simplified verson out to generate an NPR look so the lower levels do not look harsh, but blended.  Stezza's workflow looks promising.  The people I am OK with... smoothing out a face after reducing the colour levels is doable so they do not look like a geological feature with elevations! But when I reduce levels in scenes where there are hard angles, such as furniture using they often get that 'bent' look.   Nature scenes are more forgiving without those hard lines, but when I need to show a fruit or nut bush, eg... I have to use the reveal brush in DAP to bring back the fruit so it is recognisable.  I also do not want to have 'paint' textures or media textures so as to present a more illustrated image.

Getting there... thanks for your interest and ideas!

  Silene

Post a few of your renders so we can see how you are progressing Silene !!!

greatr idea, thanks for the comment on my two mansions :)

Diomede - after playing with pd for a month I would say it has a must have - layering the filters within PD is the way to go - though I have times when it just doesnt work when you have a few complicated ones 

 

 

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Another Alien

Bunyip02, that's terrific - it's very clean and easy to read!

 

Headwax

reworking an old render with PDonut

and a little topaz simplify and Ron's brushes to get watercolour effect FilterForge for the paper texture

 

 

Bunyip02

Diomede_Carrara said:

Just circling back to get caught upon this thread.  You folks have been amazing. Jst a couple notes on the most recent page. 

Bunyip, I love your recent trend experimening with colors.  I wouldn't want to meet most of your subjects, but the effects have been fun to watch.

Headwax, you have convinced me to track down Photodonut.  Unfortunately, there are more things to learn than any of us have time for.  Must prioritize.

 

Thanks

Am using PhotoDonut a lot more in my work, very usefull tool.

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

SileneUK_Carrara said:

Hi HW/Andrew... I think I need to make the environment scenes less busy, then perhaps they will give a better illustration render. Trouble is, I need the photo-realism for some uses, so I will have to then strip a simplified verson out to generate an NPR look so the lower levels do not look harsh, but blended.  Stezza's workflow looks promising.  The people I am OK with... smoothing out a face after reducing the colour levels is doable so they do not look like a geological feature with elevations! But when I reduce levels in scenes where there are hard angles, such as furniture using they often get that 'bent' look.   Nature scenes are more forgiving without those hard lines, but when I need to show a fruit or nut bush, eg... I have to use the reveal brush in DAP to bring back the fruit so it is recognisable.  I also do not want to have 'paint' textures or media textures so as to present a more illustrated image.

Getting there... thanks for your interest and ideas!

  Silene

Post a few of your renders so we can see how you are progressing Silene !!!

greatr idea, thanks for the comment on my two mansions :)

Diomede - after playing with pd for a month I would say it has a must have - layering the filters within PD is the way to go - though I have times when it just doesnt work when you have a few complicated ones 

 

 

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Another Alien

Bunyip02, that's terrific - it's very clean and easy to read!

 

Thanks

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

reworking an old render with PDonut

and a little topaz simplify and Ron's brushes to get watercolour effect FilterForge for the paper texture

 

 

Excellent, love the combined painterly look with the paper texture !!!

Bunyip02

Continuing the colourful Aliens theme

 

Headwax

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Headwax_Carrara said:

reworking an old render with PDonut

and a little topaz simplify and Ron's brushes to get watercolour effect FilterForge for the paper texture

 

 

Excellent, love the combined painterly look with the paper texture !!!

thanks having a lot of fun exploring this pd :)

 

 

Headwax

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Continuing the colourful Aliens theme

 

Hehe, I thought you were going for colourful!! Brilliant album cover this would be ! That bleed adds the handmade look

 

PS have a look at this blog might have some interesting stuff about npr ? http://www.jurn.org/dazposer/

 

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Continuing the colourful Aliens theme

 

Hehe, I thought you were going for colourful!! Brilliant album cover this would be ! That bleed adds the handmade look

 

PS have a look at this blog might have some interesting stuff about npr ? http://www.jurn.org/dazposer/

 

Thanks.

Some old renders given the GMIC/Filter Forge/Photo Donut treatment

Got a Gremlin on my shoulder, what could possibly go wrong.....

Melody - Aiko 3

Bunyip02

Silly Space scene

SileneUK

These are all so inspiring, Bunyip!  I am working on a landscape scene, so it might be a bit before I can go back to the characters again. Hope to have something soon.   Silene

Bunyip02

SileneUK_Carrara said:

These are all so inspiring, Bunyip!  I am working on a landscape scene, so it might be a bit before I can go back to the characters again. Hope to have something soon.   Silene

Thanks Silene, looking forward to seeing your renders !!!

Headwax

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Headwax_Carrara said:

Bunyip02_Carrara said:

Continuing the colourful Aliens theme

 

Hehe, I thought you were going for colourful!! Brilliant album cover this would be ! That bleed adds the handmade look

 

PS have a look at this blog might have some interesting stuff about npr ? http://www.jurn.org/dazposer/

 

Thanks.

Some old renders given the GMIC/Filter Forge/Photo Donut treatment

Got a Gremlin on my shoulder, what could possibly go wrong.....

 

 

this one is just superb - lovely job on the text, so watercolourist - you have me back with Gmic thanks :)

 

 

Headwax

here's an engraving filter - interesting the effect changes with the same parameter - must be the illumination variations

 

 

Headwax

 

piece from last year reworked to the skin of it's teeth

 

 

Headwax

well I made some custom Photo Donut filters and they hang so while they were busy hanging I started this one off with Filter Forge then went onto PD layter

amusingly I forgot I was a wtarecolourist in a past life so I am bringing those skills to the digital table

eg bringing back the white at the end - to show the paper underneath the colour - nose cheecks and upper chest plus highlights on boots

 

Below back to school PD filter with some tone mapping in affinity - toon!pro pass overlayed to bring back some edges

 

 

last on is Carrara Photonmap overlaid on above image to bring some details back

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bunyip02

Headwax_Carrara said:

here's an engraving filter - interesting the effect changes with the same parameter - must be the illumination variations

 

 

Interesting result. I have used some of the Black & White GMIC filter results in the Multiply option of PaintShopPro to adust the look of the FilterForge/DAP/FotoSketcher/PhotoDonut results. Definately worth exploring !!!