Where in the World has the Forum Gremlin gone Now? Complaint Thread

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    remember vienna finger cookies?  lunch truck had em.  4 lil vienna fingers.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited February 2016

    goin through the Hp store customize options again.  is there much of a performance difference between 3.6  and  4.0 Ghz?

    these are the graphic options to choose from

     

    iz been a whole week since i did my tax return, no moola yet.  burning a hole in my pocket, chicken before the egg, have eggs been laid yet 

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147
    MistyMist said:

    page 89.

    The Lint before Lent Complaint Thread

    ..reminds me, have to clean the lent trap in the dryer.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    feeling alone in the thread today.  are the e-bots going out?

    had another browse in the daz store.  
    i think MyLibrary content is actually a wrap.  
    the last outfit for g2m didn't have a manual d/l option, so i didn't buy it.
    won't have to worry about re-backing up mylib.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147
    edited February 2016
    MistyMist said:

    goin through the Hp store customize options again.  is there much of a performance difference between 3.6  and  4.0 Ghz?

    these are the graphic options to choose from

     

    iz been a whole week since i did my tax return, no moola yet.  burning a hole in my pocket, chicken before the egg, have eggs been laid yet 

    ...for CPU rendering, the higher the speed, the better.  Just make sure that it isn't an "overclocked" rating.

    I'd definitely go for the 500w PSU.  If you can swing it, I'd also opt for the Nvidia GTX 745 even though you are not doing GPU rendering. When working on big scenes (like using a Howie Farkes' set), moving the camera and trasnitioning figures/props can get really sluggish.

    What Intel's integrated graphics does is swap from your physical memory to drive your display while a dedicated card uses it's own memory. 

    The GTX745 also supports OpenGL 4.4 (which is the language used to drive the viewport display in "working  mode") as well as HD resolution and BlueRay (important if you also want to watch films on your system).

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    goin through the Hp store customize options again.  is there much of a performance difference between 3.6  and  4.0 Ghz?

    these are the graphic options to choose from

     

    iz been a whole week since i did my tax return, no moola yet.  burning a hole in my pocket, chicken before the egg, have eggs been laid yet 

    ...for CPU rendering, the higher the speed, the better.  Just make sure that it isn't an "overclocked" rating.

    I'd definitely go for the 500w PSU.  If you can swing it, I'd also opt for the Nvidia GTX 745 even though you are not doing GPU rendering. When working on big scenes (like using a Howie Farkes' set), moving the camera and trasnitioning figures/props can get really sluggish.

    What Intel's integrated graphics does is swap from your physical memory to drive your display while a dedicated card uses it's own memory. 

    The GTX745 also supports OpenGL 4.4 (which is the language used to drive the viewport display in "working  mode") as well as HD resolution and BlueRay (important if you also want to watch films on your system).

     

    the Sony vegas video editor has minimum gpu requirements.  another 100 bucks. >.< for the 745  
    dont understand why the radeon is so much more. is only 2gb

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147
    edited February 2016

    ...more stream processors, 1,024 vs 384 CUDA Cores (for the 745) and  it supports DirectX12 which is more useful for the next geeneration fo games than 3D rendering.  It is actually comparable to Nvidia's 2 GB GTX 960. 

    However aagain, as Carrara's render engine is CPU based, the number of cores/stream processors is a non factor. Furthermore, If you ever decided to play around with Iray somewhere down the road, the Radeon GPU will be of no use whereas the GTX745 would give you enough memory for rendering moderately sized (poly and texture load) scenes in GPU mode.

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,433

    I do not want to eat dinner before five pm.  I am waiting for a better time to eat.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    I do not want to eat dinner before five pm.  I am waiting for a better time to eat.

    Before 5pm it is Teatime    dinnertime is usually 6:30 earliest sometimes not till 7pm or even later.

     

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Morning. Endless lines of traffic stretching in all directions like so many shiny slow moving sweat beads trickling  toward a distant sea  :)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:

    feeling alone in the thread today.  are the e-bots going out?

    had another browse in the daz store.  
    i think MyLibrary content is actually a wrap.  
    the last outfit for g2m didn't have a manual d/l option, so i didn't buy it.
    won't have to worry about re-backing up mylib.

    Bad wireless connect complaint :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    terrabyte drive shipped 

    hope snow doesnt mess delivery.  got my libraries just the way i want em, if i had a crash now, seriously see a 52yo woman cry

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Chohole said:

    I do not want to eat dinner before five pm.  I am waiting for a better time to eat.

    Before 5pm it is Teatime    dinnertime is usually 6:30 earliest sometimes not till 7pm or even later.

     

    elevensies

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    watchin transformers.  at the part he needs a credit card to call the pentagon

    tryin to focus on how they heightenting suspense, special effects and background music, is a heavy bassline.they cllin awac to the killbox.
    killbox real military jargon?

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,188
    MistyMist said:

    terrabyte drive shipped 

    hope snow doesnt mess delivery.  got my libraries just the way i want em, if i had a crash now, seriously see a 52yo woman cry

    Hands dance while it rains gummy worms.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,433

    Goodnight gummy worms

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670

    I'm alive!  Don't worry about me.  I let my platinum club membership expire because my prepaid-debit card expired.  I can't afford to pay for the Platinum Club either.  I'll rejoin the PC as soon as I can.  I really should work on my renders too.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,237
    MistyMist said:

    terrabyte drive shipped 

    hope snow doesnt mess delivery.  got my libraries just the way i want em, if i had a crash now, seriously see a 52yo woman cry

    I have two 1 TB drives and one 500 GB drive, internal.  I have one external 2 TB drive that I use mostly for backup of important things.  If you don't do too much, one should be fine.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,237

    I'm alive!  Don't worry about me.  I let my platinum club membership expire because my prepaid-debit card expired.  I can't afford to pay for the Platinum Club either.  I'll rejoin the PC as soon as I can.  I really should work on my renders too.

    I've been wondering. 

    I had to let my PC+ membership go, too.

    Dana

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,433

    My roommate is complaining and I cannot sleep.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147

    I'm alive!  Don't worry about me.  I let my platinum club membership expire because my prepaid-debit card expired.  I can't afford to pay for the Platinum Club either.  I'll rejoin the PC as soon as I can.  I really should work on my renders too.

    ...good to see you back.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147

    ...The Complaining About My Roomate's Complaining Complaint Thread.

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009

    I'm alive!  Don't worry about me.  I let my platinum club membership expire because my prepaid-debit card expired.  I can't afford to pay for the Platinum Club either.  I'll rejoin the PC as soon as I can.  I really should work on my renders too.

    Hi there.  It's really good to see you pop up again.  I too have been wondering what happened to you.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    DanaTA said:

    I'm alive!  Don't worry about me.  I let my platinum club membership expire because my prepaid-debit card expired.  I can't afford to pay for the Platinum Club either.  I'll rejoin the PC as soon as I can.  I really should work on my renders too.

    I've been wondering. 

    I had to let my PC+ membership go, too.

    Dana

     

    wb Starion 

    let mi pc go too. waiting for carrara content to be offered in pc

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

     

    federtal tax return moola came in, no state moola yet.  

      joy joy joy  summertime love  dance dance dance  dancing queen 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Goodnight gummy worms

     

    Tjohn said:
    MistyMist said:

     

    Hands dance while it rains gummy worms.

     

    lol  my first guess it was tickertape parade confetti

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    well easy come easy go, just ordered http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LX7LUU8/ ;

    it's i5, but 12gb / 2tb at that price, whiskey tango hotel
    ASUS M11AD-US010O Desktop (3.2 GHz Intel i5-4460 Processor, 12GB DDR3, 2TB HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium

    already feeling buyer's guilt.    lol  haven't even learned cloth and hair in rrara yet.  shipping 5 - 8 days, gives me the weekend to learn.

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Morning. Breaking day broke the cloud cover as welltoday, blue sky peeking through all over and shirtsleeves warm for another perfect Melbourne summer day :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,147
    MistyMist said:

    well easy come easy go, just ordered http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LX7LUU8/ ;

    it's i5, but 12gb / 2tb at that price, whiskey tango hotel
    ASUS M11AD-US010O Desktop (3.2 GHz Intel i5-4460 Processor, 12GB DDR3, 2TB HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium

    already feeling buyer's guilt.    lol  haven't even learned cloth and hair in rrara yet.  shipping 5 - 8 days, gives me the weekend to learn.

     

    ...personally I would have waited for the state return, saved up a bit, shopped around a little more, and got something better particularly considering that you are looking to do animation.

    My system has only 12 GB with a dedicated  Nvidia GPU (1 GB) and when working in Carrara or Daz on a large scene (like one of the Howie Farkes sets or Stonemason's Urban Sprawl 2). Camera moves, posing, and positioning props becomes very sluggish. My experience with just the Intel integrated graphics on my old system was worse. Again keep in mind, the Intel graphics will use some of your system's remaining 11 GB (as Windows and system processes take up about 1 GB) of physical memory to drive the video display which will not be available for other tasks such as rendering.  Even with a dedicated GPU to run the displays, my system often goes into "swap mode" (using the the "virtual memory" partition on the HDD) when rendering a large scene which is extremely slow.

    With Win 7 Home (which I have as well) if you find a need to upgrade memory down the road, you are limited to a maximum of only 16 GB. With only the 12 GB of memory my system has, I won't even consider animation work as just rendering a fairly simple 5 frame motion blur in Daz took sixteen and a half hours.

    Finally, I checked the spces on the i5-4460 and it is a straight quad core (similar to the old "Core 2 Quad "CPUs of a decade ago), as it has no hyperthreading like the i7 offers.  The more CPU threads the better for CPU based rendering.   The HP model you were originally looking at with the 6 core i7 has 12 CPU processing threads, and the 8 core option, 16 threads. As you know from rendering in Carrara, each tile in the rendering window corresponds to an individual CPU processing "core" or thread.

    When I was designing my system I originally was looking at a "fast" Core 2 quad (LGA 775) or AMD quad and DDR2 memory to save money.  This was at the time the first i7 CPUs and DDR3 sticks were being rolled out.  A number of people advised me to consider going with the newer tech and look at getting one of the "new"  Fermi Nvida 1GB GPUs (even though it meant having to save up a bit more) as I was told I'd just be wasting my money on what would become "dead end" tech in about another year.  Looking back, I am glad I took their advice.

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