sadly he was too expensive for me to buy a gift certificate for you too at our exchange rate esp needing dog 8, I already spent far too much buying two other JC figures with him,
it did occur to me, i
s OK I am very greatful fur your plugin a few figures don't matter, he at least can use displacement as the details linear
I am very impressed how other stuff works with it
next months budget maybe if another GC offer on DAZ can toss one in but do wait until sales as no need or rush so can get more stuff when I do
Please don't bother if you don't need it. When I say it's too expensive, it's the short hand for "it's too expensive for something I don't need".
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
as I only use Carrara I'm unfamiliar with all these new terms and don't have programs like ZBrush and those others with abbreviated letters .. I have no idea what a UDIM is as I don't use DS so it all gets lost on me..
That's why I'll wait till the end when hopefully just a Carrara tut will be available on how to implement it.
Well, HD Morphs are made FOR Daz Studio, so at the very least, we need to enter DS long enough to export the HD Morph as OBJ. Once that's done, the rest should all be okay with a Carrara-Only process.
Philemo's tutorial should be nice and easy - even for those of us who never/rarely open DS!
And just to clarify, in Step 4 and Step 5 of the tutorial, he is first (step 4) importing the exported (from DS) HD morphed figure as an OBJ with his import notes applied, and then in step 5, he's loading in the figure that we would otherwise use the morph on into the same scene, with the obj from step 4.
An example:
If we're going to use a Gianni 6 HD morph,
Step 1 - in Daz Studio we'd load in Gianni 6 HD character preset
Step 2 - since this is a Character Preset, this step should already be done (but check his notes just to see what it means)
i've already brought a bunch of 'baked' characters over to car files.
dont know how to swap the uvs in carrara
can a carrara preset inject a morph?
in the poser days a morph channel needed to exist to inj a morph
i think a cbr file should be like a poser pz2.
thinkin a preset to inj character could take the place of umport procedure
mebbe a preset to inj the channel first
sadly he was too expensive for me to buy a gift certificate for you too at our exchange rate esp needing dog 8, I already spent far too much buying two other JC figures with him,
it did occur to me, i
s OK I am very greatful fur your plugin a few figures don't matter, he at least can use displacement as the details linear
I am very impressed how other stuff works with it
next months budget maybe if another GC offer on DAZ can toss one in but do wait until sales as no need or rush so can get more stuff when I do
Please don't bother if you don't need it. When I say it's too expensive, it's the short hand for "it's too expensive for something I don't need".
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
actually I do this already with Xnormal, was my way around some of them not having displacement maps but I need to change the UV mapping as Xnormal does not do overlapping UV's (or read UDIM) it will work beautifully with Dog 8 though as he / she is flat mapped
Good news, it’s actually not common for this issue as on human figures it will cause issues in DAZ studio too and some DAZ studio users complain so the script may even benefit them
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
If I was interesting in extracting an height map from another non-Daz character - how would I best do it?
I have baker plugin but it does not give me a choice of height map or depth map.
And what would be the bext way 'to extract the differences" between different height maps?
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
If I was interesting in extracting an height map from another non-Daz character - how would I best do it?
I have baker plugin but it does not give me a choice of height map or depth map.
And what would be the bext way 'to extract the differences" between different height maps?
thanks again for all your hard work on Carrara !
A good start would be to extract the high poly normal map using Inagoni Baker. It's usually enough for facets facing the camera. Not so good for those perpendicular to the camera.
To get a differential height map, you can do the same process with the low poly object and use Carrara operators in your displacement shader ( high poly height map + value 0.5 - low poly height map)..
Man, a lot of my HD figgies use iray or AoA SSS for some details...
I know. I have some improvements to do in the PBR plugin to import them correctly. For instance, I saw while testing HD morph that import of the Uber Iray model was all wrong.
Good news, it’s actually not common for this issue as on human figures it will cause issues in DAZ studio too and some DAZ studio users complain so the script may even benefit them
So, I think I'll consider that animals with hard code scale bones are a lost cause
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
If I was interesting in extracting an height map from another non-Daz character - how would I best do it?
I have baker plugin but it does not give me a choice of height map or depth map.
And what would be the bext way 'to extract the differences" between different height maps?
thanks again for all your hard work on Carrara !
A good start would be to extract the high poly normal map using Inagoni Baker. It's usually enough for facets facing the camera. Not so good for those perpendicular to the camera.
To get a differential height map, you can do the same process with the low poly object and use Carrara operators in your displacement shader ( high poly height map + value 0.5 - low poly height map)..
thanks for that didnt realise you could get a height map from normal map :) much obliged
Man, a lot of my HD figgies use iray or AoA SSS for some details...
I know. I have some improvements to do in the PBR plugin to import them correctly. For instance, I saw while testing HD morph that import of the Uber Iray model was all wrong.
Just got stuck-in reading info on UUW3D. Quite the handy tool. Nice tutorials. Can even repaint texture maps from one source to another... neat!
Yes was a bonus for me as I actually bought it before that was implemented for its extensive import/export options and the decimation both features I still use a lot.
and one really cool thing is you can apply the morph to the original daz puppy !! see one on the right - of course posing it gives minor explosion :)
Once the morph is applied, you can use the dials in the parameters tab, thus changing the character. All my tests show there is no explosion this way. In the other hand, the HD morph will keep the same size. If the difference in size is important, the result may be monstrous.
and one really cool thing is you can apply the morph to the original daz puppy !! see one on the right - of course posing it gives minor explosion :)
Once the morph is applied, you can use the dials in the parameters tab, thus changing the character. All my tests show there is no explosion this way. In the other hand, the HD morph will keep the same size. If the difference in size is important, the result may be monstrous.
Even though there are likely to be quirks with some things... it doesn't take away from the fact that this is an amazingly awesome plugin you've created! Bravo!!!
the latest iteration of the plug in, no haz to worry about the uvs now?
the scaling thing. was extra work to separate the morph deltas and the scaling into 2 separate dsfs.
conceivably a pose preset should be able to set bones back to default scaling. one pose to fix them all. there are cbr demo files in carrara to set scaling. but don't see how to apply to all bones. seems to only work on selected bone. would need to reset all axissesseez
Wow on this plug-in. Cannot wait to try it. However I have again hit the snag. Being a less advanced Carrara user (like many who visit the forums) can you tell me exactly how to install the files for the HD plug-in? In my case I do not want to assume I know where to put it and then end up breaking Carrara. Does the folder go into Extensions, or Data? Also where does the Script file go? Thanks
Okay I think I placed the files correctly by placing them into Daz 3d/Carrara8.5/Extensions. Still unsure about the script file. Not terribly advanced with DS either.
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Please don't bother if you don't need it. When I say it's too expensive, it's the short hand for "it's too expensive for something I don't need".
Displacement is also a good alternative. For what I've seen, most of the HD morphs could be done with displacement. The problem with that is that licence terms forbid to extract height map from DAZ characters.It's a pity because it would be so easy to bake height map from base model and HD model and extract the differences. And I don't want to cross DAZ because I'm still hoping that, one day, they will open more of the SDK for third party developpers.
gianni 6![heart heart](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/heart.png)
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can finally use his hd add on
converting his huge tif files to png for phong
actually does the hd and phong tesselation work together
mebbe shouldnt use together
gianni 6 has lovely hd add on. never checked if his anatomicals has hd details![kiss kiss](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/kiss.png)
ooo minotaur 6 hd![enlightened enlightened](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/lightbulb.png)
does wrench room do un udm?
i've already brought a bunch of 'baked' characters over to car files.
dont know how to swap the uvs in carrara
can a carrara preset inject a morph?
in the poser days a morph channel needed to exist to inj a morph
i think a cbr file should be like a poser pz2.
thinkin a preset to inj character could take the place of umport procedure
mebbe a preset to inj the channel first
am i babbling? lol
so excited with the new stuff
actually I do this already with Xnormal, was my way around some of them not having displacement maps but I need to change the UV mapping as Xnormal does not do overlapping UV's (or read UDIM) it will work beautifully with Dog 8 though as he / she is flat mapped
Tried Gianni 6 HD & Lee 6 HD with the unscale script, both worked no problems !!!
Good news, it’s actually not common for this issue as on human figures it will cause issues in DAZ studio too and some DAZ studio users complain
so the script may even benefit them ![yes yes](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png)
Greetings @Philemo_Carrara
If I was interesting in extracting an height map from another non-Daz character - how would I best do it?
I have baker plugin but it does not give me a choice of height map or depth map.
And what would be the bext way 'to extract the differences" between different height maps?
thanks again for all your hard work on Carrara !
ah I see the anser might be substance painter? https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/218946/is-it-possible-to-bake-hd-morphs-to-maps
Man, a lot of my HD figgies use iray or AoA SSS for some details...
A good start would be to extract the high poly normal map using Inagoni Baker. It's usually enough for facets facing the camera. Not so good for those perpendicular to the camera.
Now, you can, for instance, use this Gimp plugin https://code.google.com/archive/p/gimp-normalmap/ to convert your normal map to height.
To get a differential height map, you can do the same process with the low poly object and use Carrara operators in your displacement shader ( high poly height map + value 0.5 - low poly height map)..
I know. I have some improvements to do in the PBR plugin to import them correctly. For instance, I saw while testing HD morph that import of the Uber Iray model was all wrong.
I will release a new version in a few weeks.
Glad it did. Problem solved
So, I think I'll consider that animals with hard code scale bones are a lost cause![devil devil](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/devil_smile.png)
thanks for that didnt realise you could get a height map from normal map :) much obliged
Headwax
you can use Xnormal too if no overlapping UV maps
https://xnormal.net/
For DAZ figures I just exported body parts with the same surfaces
now I have UUW3D with repaint I create a new flat UV and do the texture transfer thing instead
you could try texture atlas and map transfer in DAZ studio to do the same thing
Brain eater
You're a HERO!
Quit it! Dont ya know people have sleep issues?![surprise surprise](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/omg_smile.png)
Actually, was trying my zombies. lol
FYI, UUW3D = Ultimate Unwrap 3D
...and Wendy has the Pro version - which is still an amazing deal for great software
Hmmm... I may just get this
Just got stuck-in reading info on UUW3D. Quite the handy tool. Nice tutorials. Can even repaint texture maps from one source to another... neat!
Yes was a bonus for me as I actually bought it before that was implemented for its extensive import/export options and the decimation both features I still use a lot.
wow works on the dog 8 thanks
had to use the scaling script - thanks for that\
in studio I dialed up HD morph of 4 (1 is the standard) just for fun.
in Carrara had issue with eyebrows ?????? when I posed the dog I guess I should have hid them in studio (edit: it was the eyelashes)
here are two images - top left dog no hd
bottom right dog no hd
interestingly you can use the hd on other dog breeds - so french bulldog with benjiy hd morph
thanks again Philemeno :)
and one really cool thing is you can apply the morph to the original daz puppy !! see one on the right - of course posing it gives minor explosion :)
Now that’s interesting, I made a millennium dog Clone for Dog 8 when it was released,
(not a terribly good clone, I must work on a better one using Zprojection, I used Blender shrinkwrap)
I guess it approximates the nearest vertex, this could have other interesting uses like projecting other shapes onto figures say 3D scanned heads.
What would be interesting is if the plugin will work with different generations of figures, I assume depending on UV matching
yes , lots of stuff to play with - I just tried the dog hd on kid 4 - but the dog hd didnt appear in the morph list - lucky for the kid I guess :)
Once the morph is applied, you can use the dials in the parameters tab, thus changing the character. All my tests show there is no explosion this way. In the other hand, the HD morph will keep the same size. If the difference in size is important, the result may be monstrous.
Even though there are likely to be quirks with some things... it doesn't take away from the fact that this is an amazingly awesome plugin you've created! Bravo!!!
the latest iteration of the plug in, no haz to worry about the uvs now?
the scaling thing. was extra work to separate the morph deltas and the scaling into 2 separate dsfs.
conceivably a pose preset should be able to set bones back to default scaling. one pose to fix them all.
there are cbr demo files in carrara to set scaling. but don't see how to apply to all bones. seems to only work on selected bone.
would need to reset all axissesseez
this is the z stretch 200 text
y stretch
x stretch
only thing changes is the last 2 digits of the MAJA line.
can a preset roll through all the parts of a heirarchy, like select hip, then do eveything under it?
Phil,
Wow on this plug-in. Cannot wait to try it. However I have again hit the snag. Being a less advanced Carrara user (like many who visit the forums) can you tell me exactly how to install the files for the HD plug-in? In my case I do not want to assume I know where to put it and then end up breaking Carrara. Does the folder go into Extensions, or Data? Also where does the Script file go? Thanks
Okay I think I placed the files correctly by placing them into Daz 3d/Carrara8.5/Extensions. Still unsure about the script file. Not terribly advanced with DS either.
Hello Rashad, Carrara8.5/Extensions is the right spot for the HDMorph plugin. Script for DAZ Studio goes in DAZ3D/My DAZ 3D Library/Scripts folder