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  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2012

    Jaderail said:
    It's not me folks, its DAZ, they stole my hair and put it on sale. SEE! Jade Hair ! They tried to hide what they did by making it a Female WIG but I knew somthing was up as soon as I felt the breeze on my scalp. Heads will roll for this I promise!

    Disclaimer: In no way is this to be seen as an endorsement for the item, your hair could be next.

    Oh man, thanks for this, if ever I need a good belly-laugh it's now and you just provided it. Carole is giving me strange looks!

    I don't know if telling you this is a good idea or not, but here goes... I bought your hair. Particularly fond of the flowers!

    Thansk again for the laugh. Excellent.

    {edit} - Just for future advice, is it worth buying the hair for both V4 and Genesis? Because I often find that autofit works nicely with hair as well as clothing.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I want to see an image of Jade wearing the flowers that come with Jade hair. :roll:

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    I want to see an image of Jade wearing the flowers that come with Jade hair. :roll:

    Me too.

    Come on Jeff, your public is calling!

  • VIArtsVIArts Posts: 1,499
    edited December 1969

    Me three!

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    I want to work on rendering today but the housework says no!

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    Great way to start the morning, laughing. I can just picture Jeff with the Jade hair.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Especially the flowers. Need to see the flowers.

    What colour do you think will suit Jade best.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,220
    edited December 1969

    Pink because he is blue, need primrose too!

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    That sounds like a good combination, Wendy.

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    I am thinking of starting my entry for the newbie contest all over again. I had completely forgotten that I could use Carrara (or indeed anything at all) to make my image, and since I'm learning Carrara at the moment maybe it will be appropriate.

    I guess it depends how much free time I've got to render in, but I should be able to come up with something, I'm sure.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    You folk's will have to wait, I just got up. I had dial yesterday and a late nite so I slept in today. Let me get some coffee and med's in me then I'll finish what I started.

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    You folk's will have to wait, I just got up. I had dial yesterday and a late nite so I slept in today. Let me get some coffee and med's in me then I'll finish what I started.

    Coffee, great idea, why didn't I think of that?
  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Ummm....Well what do you think? I'm going to run to the Beauty Parlor I think...

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Very nice, not sure if the colour is quite you though, perhaps a more pastel shade/

  • jerriecanjerriecan Posts: 470
    edited December 1969

    You've got the right expression, no doubt. :D

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    jerriecan said:
    You've got the right expression, no doubt. :D
    I'm at the Beauty Parlor right now (rendering) I'll see if I can help with your content in a few minutes. Could you go drop this Info. PC type, OS Type and Bit, and which version of DS you have installed.
  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I'm a bit depressed. They got the colour right, but what the Heck am I going to do with all these flowers?

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  • jerriecanjerriecan Posts: 470
    edited December 1969

    Well, you could always enjoy the inevitable swarm of bees that you will attract. ;)

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I'm waiting on my barber shop to open tomorrow. Then I can get my normal hair style back. Those ladies at the Parlor just giggle to much to mess with again today.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,057
    edited December 1969

    you do not GET stuff designed for Maya
    you DESIGN stuff for Maya!!
    (you would not last 2 minutes at CGtalk!!!! ;-P )
    but if you are not a CGsociety snob, you use premade content, Daz makes nicer content than anyone else!
    drop a posed obj in there and some props
    play with Maya's lights, textures etc, knock us out!

    Ok, I have to address this right away before people maybe associate me with those bigoted show-offs just because I have some fancy software!

    I am not, nor will I ever be, a snob about this artwork. Last year I started a thread called "But is it art?" where I asked opinions on whether it's artistic to just drop premade items into a premade environment. This thread was started because I began to feel that it was too easy to make acceptable artwork. The response to that thread was tremendous, people telling me that so long as a little effort was put into the thought process then yes, it's art. That effort could be as little as thinking "Oh that outfit would look great on this character morph". As for me thinking it was all too easy, well that's a simple thing to correct isn't it? If your art becomes too easy, challenge yourself, apply limitations just for the sake of it, learn a new aspect. If you can master lighting and call it easy, you're an artistic god!

    The people that think you've got to create all your own stuff in order to be allowed to be considered for the possibility of maybe, potentially being called an artist are people that I challenge. They spend so much time on a piece of work that it becomes a technical masterpiece, a wonder of form, light and expression. Yeah, that's great if you've got 25 hours in your day and can fit all that time into working on 3D art, but for the rest of the human race with jobs and lives it's just a waste of what little time we have left in our mere 24 hour days. I have the utmost respect for the people that create their art from scratch and spend hours on each tiny detail, honestly I do, but I have the same amount of respect for those who, like me, can't spend that much time on it, or simply don't want to.

    Fancypants software doesn't make the artist. What's in the heart and head make the artist. The fancypants software is just like having more brushes to dip in your paint.

    No, I didn't think Wendy was really saying that I was a snob, or that I should be. But I have noticed before in my work as a web designer that if I say I've got Photoshop and Dreamweaver people go all lar dee dar at me, so I wanted to clear that up in case anyone at all thinks I reckon I'm better than them.

    And yeah, I agree 100% with Wendy's appraisal of Daz models. Sometimes I am blown away by the detail in a character, or a prop, and someone has put a lot of effort into making them. By that standard, it's rude NOT to use them!

    Love Daz, love art, hate snobs!
    ...wondered where this discussion went off to.

    I agree100%. It's not the tools, it's the hand and heart that guides them.

    Unless I won the Megabucks lotto I could never hope to afford to have the top shelf apps. Many of us here cannot. So we make the best of the tools we have. Yeah sometimes we need to get a little resourceful to pull things off , but that is where the fun begins. I have seen some incredible work. When MattyManx was able to get a Daz/Reality pic accepted on a forum that caters primarily to the Pro app crowd, that said a lot for our little 3D" toy".

    As I am finding out, 4.5 and Genesis have a lot to offer, more than any previous release of the Studio application (yeah, and this is coming form one who was one of the biggest skeptics about the whole thing). This is actually beginning to become fun again, and that is why I became involved in the first place.

    ...oh, and a scene doesn't need to be crammed with billions of polys, complex texture detail that would make a fully loaded Duo Hexacore MacPro weep, or lit with dozens of lights to be considered good. It just needs to evoke a feeling in the viewer.

    Sometimes the simple can speak volumes.

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    you do not GET stuff designed for Maya
    you DESIGN stuff for Maya!!
    (you would not last 2 minutes at CGtalk!!!! ;-P )
    but if you are not a CGsociety snob, you use premade content, Daz makes nicer content than anyone else!
    drop a posed obj in there and some props
    play with Maya's lights, textures etc, knock us out!

    Ok, I have to address this right away before people maybe associate me with those bigoted show-offs just because I have some fancy software!

    I am not, nor will I ever be, a snob about this artwork. Last year I started a thread called "But is it art?" where I asked opinions on whether it's artistic to just drop premade items into a premade environment. This thread was started because I began to feel that it was too easy to make acceptable artwork. The response to that thread was tremendous, people telling me that so long as a little effort was put into the thought process then yes, it's art. That effort could be as little as thinking "Oh that outfit would look great on this character morph". As for me thinking it was all too easy, well that's a simple thing to correct isn't it? If your art becomes too easy, challenge yourself, apply limitations just for the sake of it, learn a new aspect. If you can master lighting and call it easy, you're an artistic god!

    The people that think you've got to create all your own stuff in order to be allowed to be considered for the possibility of maybe, potentially being called an artist are people that I challenge. They spend so much time on a piece of work that it becomes a technical masterpiece, a wonder of form, light and expression. Yeah, that's great if you've got 25 hours in your day and can fit all that time into working on 3D art, but for the rest of the human race with jobs and lives it's just a waste of what little time we have left in our mere 24 hour days. I have the utmost respect for the people that create their art from scratch and spend hours on each tiny detail, honestly I do, but I have the same amount of respect for those who, like me, can't spend that much time on it, or simply don't want to.

    Fancypants software doesn't make the artist. What's in the heart and head make the artist. The fancypants software is just like having more brushes to dip in your paint.

    No, I didn't think Wendy was really saying that I was a snob, or that I should be. But I have noticed before in my work as a web designer that if I say I've got Photoshop and Dreamweaver people go all lar dee dar at me, so I wanted to clear that up in case anyone at all thinks I reckon I'm better than them.

    And yeah, I agree 100% with Wendy's appraisal of Daz models. Sometimes I am blown away by the detail in a character, or a prop, and someone has put a lot of effort into making them. By that standard, it's rude NOT to use them!

    Love Daz, love art, hate snobs!


    ...wondered where this discussion went off to.

    I agree100%. It's not the tools, it's the hand and heart that guides them.

    Unless I won the Megabucks lotto I could never hope to afford to have the top shelf apps. Many of us here cannot. So we make the best of the tools we have. Yeah sometimes we need to get a little resourceful to pull things off , but that is where the fun begins. I have seen some incredible work. When MattyManx was able to get a Daz/Reality pic accepted on a forum that caters primarily to the Pro app crowd, that said a lot for our little 3D" toy".

    As I am finding out, 4.5 and Genesis have a lot to offer, more than any previous release of the Studio application (yeah, and this is coming form one who was one of the biggest skeptics about the whole thing). This is actually beginning to become fun again, and that is why I became involved in the first place.

    ...oh, and a scene doesn't need to be crammed with billions of polys, complex texture detail that would make a fully loaded Duo Hexacore MacPro weep, or lit with dozens of lights to be considered good. It just needs to evoke a feeling in the viewer.

    Sometimes the simple can speak volumes.
    And sometimes with the lights, less really is more.

    Regarding the forums for Pro app users, I haven't even had the bottle to post there about my newbie problems with Maya. I just think some big shark will bite my head off for daring to ask such a question. So I'll struggle alone!

    The apps we have from Daz are really good, and some need quite a lot of getting used to, but if I struggle with ANY one of those I can just come here and ask without feeling like an idiot, or a small fish in a sea of sharks!

    Talking of help, can I refer everyone back to my earlier question which didn't get an answer?
    "Just for future advice, is it worth buying the hair for both V4 and Genesis? Because I often find that autofit works nicely with hair as well as clothing."

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I buy both just so I do not have to mess around to get stuff to work. V4 gets the V4 version and Gen gets the Gen version and I just keep on keeping on.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,057
    edited December 1969

    ...I've even fit Gen3 Hair to Genesis with little issue without needing Autofit (see below). Of course I've been doing manual hair fits for some time now.

    On another thread, someone posted a pic that used Koz's Messy hair with Genesis.


    ...and on another note.

    If anyone doesn't have the Fabricator yet, get it. It is one of the most incredibly useful and money saving tools around considering all the freebie textures available and/or if you have a good 2D app to create your own.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,057
    edited December 1969

    ..and as for less lights can be more, this used only one distant, two spots and a point light (no IDL).

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,220
    edited December 1969
  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    Remind me to never ever post any work over there. I'll stay right here where I belong, with people who care about me.

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    Since I want to eventually use Genesis for everyone, I have pretty much quit buying hair unless it is for Genesis.

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    Jeff, my dear, I don't like you bald. You look much better IMO with hair. The flowers just aren't you though.

  • VIArtsVIArts Posts: 1,499
    edited December 1969

    Wah...

    I don't feel so good...

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I like that Wendy. Very good work in my eyes.

    Okay I'm over the Hair thing. I really hoped more folks would jump in and just have some fun for the sake of having fun. Thank you to all who did, you know who you are.

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