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We can only hope they have the foresight to not go to subscription required. But like I've said before, if they did do that, there would need to be some kind of concession like a reduction in prices, and I just don't see that kind of thing really happening. Hence, many would just stop using it, stop buying from the store, and crash.
Premier has been extremely beneficial to me based on how much I spend, but if I didn't buy much from the store, it wouldn't be worth the subscription. I don't like the Premier-only content and think they need to revert that design, and a lot more people would be happier overall. Make the tier based exclusively on discounts and more people would be willing to go for it.
"Don't kill the cow when you want to sell milk..."
- Romulan proverb
The bundles from which Premier Members can pick one a month are not tied to the subscription, they remain in users' accounts even if they drop Premier and + and never darken Daz' payment processor's doors again. I can understand being a little concerned but nothing suggests there is any desire to expand the subscription to eveything - the latest DS beta has one Premier-only feature and one Premier-preview feature, plus other stuff available to all.
In any event, this is purely conjectural and speculative so all we can do isa gree to differe and wait to see who is supported by events, and to what degree.
Can we stop gaslighting? I didn't say bundles. I was refering to the premier subscription content items, don't pretend otherwise.
Since you weren't specific I was clarifying.
Does anyone else not see much of a distinction between "not getting X in the first place" (as in, sorry, you're not Premiere) and "having X taken away" (as in, DAZ is slowly falling behind a paywall)? When there are extra things that others have and that you want, but can't have because you didn't pay extra for them, well that may be indistinguishable from a pay wall in practice and the sensation will resist any wordsmithing employed against it.
Yeah, just like all these other companies do. One day we own our software the next we don't with no notice. Almost no companies have to give you notice nor are they required to.
I'll be first in line for that.
A lot if featuyres are already behind a pay wall, albeit a one-time pay wall. Regardless, the concerns rasied have been over creeping removal of the base features not having new stuff added for pay 9and again, while new stuff is being added for pay so is free stuff in the base). We understand the concerns, but if people are not assured by the continuing non-pay evolution of DS then there is nothing anyone can do or say that will help.
Richard, people are rightfully concerned. To use video games as an analog, we didn't get to always online single player games with season passes all of a sudden. It started small, with $2 horse armor.
Yeah I stand by my stance that at this point it's a dead horse that's been beaten since Premier came out. We've given the feedback and for those who are afraid, maybe stop using the platform if you're concerned it's going to go fully subscription-only someday. Otherwise, just go with the flow and if that day comes, then so be it. It's something we'll all have to deal with. I'm all for raising concerns, but understand that Daz (like any other software company) owes us no insight or explanation of their long term plans. They're responsible for the results of their business decisions. That's just the way the world works.
"We understand the concerns" - which isn't the same as rightfully, in my view - the latter suggests that this is something that will happen, which at the very least is not an established fact (the ease with which concerns become an assumed fact is one major reason for out being down on speculation). Yes, I have seen applications I use switch to a rental model and i don't like it, but I really don't see any reason to suppose that that is happening here - neither Daz' recent behaviour (see comments on additional features in the free base) not the way Daz works (free application in which, Daz hopes, to use paid-for content) lend credence to that.
DAZ's recent behavior now includes devaluing tokens by setting hard price floors on sales. At this point no anti-customer act seems off the table in the quest for more profit.
I used to buy quite a bit of content, at least its quite a bit for my budget. In actuality, if you're buying content we are already paying for DAZ Studio. I could have bought a nice car for the amount of money I've spent here... my choice. Now though, with floor caps, higher subscription cost for memberships, and a very big increase in prices of products in a relativiely short time, it just feels like an overall paywall anyway. I know I've hit mine. I've been on the cusp of renewing Premier and then the pricing overall just makes me feel its not worth it really. Sorry, its reality. Back to my coffee.
I think one can rightfully concerned about something that "could" happen, especially when DAZland's behaviour over the last couple years - to stay away from the limitation that "recent" could be used for - shows a growing urge for more monetization of their assets - like NFTs or DAZ AI - which is just natural for a company with the goal to make money. Even in the quite limited time since I interact with DAZland many former normal things people learned to expect from interactions with DAZland have been changed or abandoned. Changes can happen. With and without prior notice. So people have every right to be concerned,
It only takes a pharaoh who does not know Joseph to change all of this. It's called gradualism, and it's worked for millennia. The period between pearl-clutching denial and shrugging acknowledgment gets shorter and shorter.
plus QA, support, the site, freebies, the Daz Originals, etc.
Richard could easily get to 200k with this thread alone.
Post count or apparent age?
Both.
income?
I don't feel the least bit bad for you nor will I ever make a render in your honor. You signed up for this. That's your choice, your role. And that's all I can say about it.
First one, then the other.
There may well be currencies in which that would be true..
Super delicious cat treats.
That would certainly immobilise me, maybe even render me catatonic (so to speak).
Yes, these forums have certainly jacked up Richard's post count and aged him prematurely. His hair is gray and getting thin on top. He can't see the computer screen without his cat rim glasses (thank you Laurie, @AllenArt). His jowls are sagging and he is a bit gaunt. He still has MOST of his teeth. But he is as smart and witty as ever. Richard is sure he would make fewer typos if he had a computer that was younger than he is - maybe one with a larger keyboard, appropriate for cat paws.
It's a competition between us in our mod chat to see who can destroy the spelling of words the best. We know how to spell just fine, it's our figures that can't.
Nobody can beat Richard at that game! But hey, isn't that what the spell checker is for? Are you all too proud to use it? You have to use the SCAYT (whatever that means). It you click "Check Spelling", it will lock up and you will lose everything you typed.