Genesis Custom-Dialed Character Contest (WIP/Discussion thread - now with results posted!)

Joe Cotter

Very nice Sasje :)

Sasje

Thank you Gedd :)

cecilia.robinson

One last question please. I read that usual sizes for pictures are 800x600. My render is 979x979, does it mean I'm disqualified from the start? Thanks in advance for your reply.

Chohole

I don't see a size restriction in the rules.

cecilia.robinson

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

Lissa_xyz

cecilia.robinson said:

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

I think that was when the forum wasn't auto-resizing. IIRC 2000x2000 and you're safe as it will auto-size down to the proper size for the thumbnail.

Other contests limit the sizing because 2000x2000 is a scroll-worthy size on most people's monitors. Keeping it to a smaller size allows viewing of the full image at once without the need to scroll around it.

Chohole

cecilia.robinson said:

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

Yes, and would appreciate a link to where you found that size limit, so we can get it altered. As Vaskania says it is out of date. Thanks

Lissa_xyz

chohole said:

cecilia.robinson said:

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

Yes, and would appreciate a link to where you found that size limit, so we can get it altered. As Vaskania says it is out of date. Thanks

Not sure if it's the same one Cecilia saw, but it's in an announcement in the Welcome section.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/510_98/

Scott Livingston

Vaskania said:

cecilia.robinson said:

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

I think that was when the forum wasn't auto-resizing. IIRC 2000x2000 and you're safe as it will auto-size down to the proper size for the thumbnail.

Other contests limit the sizing because 2000x2000 is a scroll-worthy size on most people's monitors. Keeping it to a smaller size allows viewing of the full image at once without the need to scroll around it.
Yes, I didn't specify a maximum size. I guess I'd prefer about 1200x1200 or under, but wanted to keep things flexible (since there's a fairly lengthy list of rules as it is), so feel free to post large sizes assuming the forum allows them.

Zilvergrafix

Scott-Livingston said:

Some exciting news: DAZ 3D is going to sponsor this contest! The exact prizes they are contributing are yet to be determined. I've updated the first post and will do so again when we learn what their contribution will be.

I've added the following to the official rules: Addition to rules (2013/06/03): By entering this contest, you agree to allow DAZ3D to use any artwork you submit in any promotional materials they may choose. Entering this contest is considered a commercial use, so you should not use any content that is not licensed for commercial use.

(In many of the contests DAZ sponsors, they reserve the right to use submissions in promotional materials...they don't always use the art, but they like to have the option available)

wha....??, I differ from being "comercial" because not all the submissions will earn something for just entering, man, this contest is getting more difficult to enter, now I need to audit my content, selecting what is/not commercial?

I'm preparing my next submission below, but, evaluating what items are valid for the contest, naked is an option? XD

Scott Livingston

zilvergrafix said:

Scott-Livingston said:

Some exciting news: DAZ 3D is going to sponsor this contest! The exact prizes they are contributing are yet to be determined. I've updated the first post and will do so again when we learn what their contribution will be.

I've added the following to the official rules: Addition to rules (2013/06/03): By entering this contest, you agree to allow DAZ3D to use any artwork you submit in any promotional materials they may choose. Entering this contest is considered a commercial use, so you should not use any content that is not licensed for commercial use.

(In many of the contests DAZ sponsors, they reserve the right to use submissions in promotional materials...they don't always use the art, but they like to have the option available)

wha....??, I differ from being "comercial" because not all the submissions will earn something for just entering, man, this contest is getting more difficult to enter, now I need to audit my content, selecting what is/not commercial?

I'm preparing my next submission below, but, evaluating what items are valid for the contest, naked is an option? XD
Everything available in the DAZ 3D store (except this) is licensed for commercial use. That tends to be true of purchased items from other stores too, though it's always best to check to be sure. Freebies are where you have to be more careful and check the fine print...many are fine for commercial use, but many are not.

kyoto kid

...what about Reby Sky?

fixmypcmike

Kyoto Kid said:

...what about Reby Sky?

Even Reby Sky.

Scott Livingston

Example #4 (not an entry)

Character: Lucy, the Australopithecus

An effort at a fairly accurate restoration of Australopithecus afarensis, the species made famous by the fossil skeleton nicknamed "Lucy." (Some reference images: 1 2 3 4). Hope you all like her...I'd be interested to hear any feedback or suggestions. Amusingly enough, my not-quite-one-year-old daughter seems to be a big fan of this character.

Formula:
Scaling (dial last...affected by other dials):
Scale 70%
Head Propagating Scale 15.2%
Left Foot Propagating Scale 13.0%
Right Foot Propagating Scale 13.0%
Left Hand Propagating Scale -14.0%
Right Hand Propagating Scale -14.0%

AMR's Proportions morphs:
Short Gn AMR 100.0%
Petite Gn AMR 30.0%

DieTrying morphs:
Hip small 0.40
Hip wide -0.30
Thigh wide -0.70
Eye shape 1 0.20
Eye shape 2 0.10
Eyelid upper size 0.70
Eyes almond 0.20
Eyes move outside -0.20
Eyes round 0.60
Hooded eye 0.50
Cheek bones 2 0.20
Face long 0.10
Neanderthal 0.50
Glute smaller 0.50
Mouth height 0.22
Nose big -0.50
Nose flat 0.50
Nose round -0.30
Nostrils flat 0.20
Nostrils turn up -0.50
Nostrils wide 0.50

Raw Dwarfology morphs:
Raw_Dwarf-Body-F3 20.0%
Raw_Dwarf_Base 20.0%

Feminie Touch morphs:
FemaleBody01 30.0%
FemaleBody06 30.0%

Creature Creator morphs:
Ear Chimp 0.20
Ear Mouse 0.10
Teeth ExCrooked 0.20
Teeth Fang Bottom 0.05
Teeth Fang Top 0.05
Chimp 0.50
Feet Monstrous 1.00
Hands Monstrous 0.10

Evolutions and basic morphs:
Basic Female 0.20
Ear Size -0.30
Earlobes Attached 1.00
Ears Angle -0.70
Eyes Width -1.00
Eyelids Fold Down 0.50
Eyelids Heavy 1.00
Eyes Almond Inner 1.00
Eyes Almond Outer 1.00
Eyes Depth -0.50
Eyes Puffy Lower 0.50
Eyes Puffy Upper 1.00
Eyes Size -0.40
Mouth Height 0.10
Lip Lower Size -0.50
Lip Upper Size -0.80
Teeth Irregular 0.30
Nose Height -0.30
Nose Width -1.00
Nose Bridge Depth 0.50
Nose Bump -1.00
Nose Depth 1.00
Nose Pinch 0.50
Nose Ridge 0.50
Nose Round -1.00
Nose Size -0.50
Nose Tip Depth -0.50
Nose Tip Width -1.00
Nostrils Depth -0.50
Nostrils Flesh Size -1.00
Nostrils Height 1.00
Philtrum Width -0.50
Cheek Bones Size 0.80
Cheek Bones Width 0.40
Face Center Depth -1.00
Jaw Corner Width 0.50
Jaw Curve -0.20
Feet Thick 0.40
Legs Length -40.0%
Fitness 0.20
Pot Bellied 0.16
Thin 0.10
Arms Length 0.70
Shoulders Width 0.10
Fingers Length Left 0.40
Fingers Length Right 0.40
Breasts Heavy 0.20
Breasts Natural 1.00
Breasts Small 0.06
Chest Scale 5.0%
Chest Width 0.10
Torso Length -0.30
Navel 1.00

Ethnicity morphs:
African Female A 0.50

Face Weight morphs:
Cheek Balloon 10.0%

Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3 morphs:
Cheekbones 0.50
ChinDefine 0.80
HighCheekbones 1.00
PhiltrumNarrow 1.00

Santo for M5 morphs:
SA5_Foot Veins 1.00
SA5_Santo Wider Feet 0.50
SA5_Thinner Ankles 0.20
SA5_Wider Heels 0.50
SA5_Hand Veins 1.00

Satsuki morphs:
Satsuki gen 1.00

Neanderthal morphs:
Neanderthal_Mec4D 50.0%

Victoria 5 morphs:
V5 Breast Shape 2 0.30

Products Used in Morph:
AMR's Proportions for Genesis
DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis
Genesis Evolution Morph Bundle
Raw Dwarfology
Feminine Touch
Creature Creator Bundle
Neanderthal for Genesis (Mec4D)
Face Weight for Genesis
Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3
Santo for M5
Satsuki for Genesis
Ethnicity for Genesis Bundle
Victoria 5

Additional Products Used:
Skin: Homo Erectus V4
Hair (images 1, 2, and 3): Look At My Hair (if people are interested, I'll release the preset I made as a freebie for LAMH and LAMH Free Player users)

Software Used:
DAZ Studio 4.6 and GIMP

Image 1: Millennium Environment + Serengeti, Lantios Lights 2, no postwork
Image 2: Worldbase XT-Lushlands, Andrea lights, postwork in GIMP
Image 3: Custom lighting based on LaticisImagery's Portrait Lighting Tutorial for DS4, no postwork
Image 4: Return to the Enchanted Forest, Lantios Lights 2, minimal postwork in GIMP

(Phew, that was a lot of work!)

cecilia.robinson

Vaskania said:

chohole said:

cecilia.robinson said:

I found it in the general forum rules. Does the lack of it in the contest's rules mean I can post my render please?

Yes, and would appreciate a link to where you found that size limit, so we can get it altered. As Vaskania says it is out of date. Thanks

Not sure if it's the same one Cecilia saw, but it's in an announcement in the Welcome section.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/510_98/

No, I found it under this link in Welcome section, basically, the thread contains the rules for the whole forum, I assume: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/6_98/. I'm asking to be on the safe line. After reading your posts, I feel much relieved. I think the size of 979x979 would still be okay. The raw renders are 1024x1277 and 724x728, but in my humble opinion I can cut them out of the "safety frame" (I hate when the model comes out half-headed) and it will do them no harm.

Scott-Livingston's Lucy looks great. Did you consider using some poses that come with The Chimp from ContentParadise?

ZilverGraphix, regarding your question: I'm afraid you cannot upload nudes in the competition, the forum aims to be family-friendly. Your picture looks nice as it is though, not need for less tasteful eye-grabbing :). Al the entries I have seen so far are very decent and they help me learn new things.

JohnDelaquiox

Would a screen cap of the morphs list suffice, or do we have to write all the morphs down here.

Szark

Screen caps are allowed but make sure the values can be seen. Mine when I went back to get some screensshots had all the values greyed with the non values so I had to copy and paste every single one.

JohnDelaquiox

Sweet, Thank you!

riftwitch

Szundown said:

I made two ab smoothing morphs, one for fitness details and one for body builder details. I gotta say making a morph to counteract part of another morph is not so easy and they didn't turn out perfect but I think they work ok and really helped my character. I will put them up on renderosity as freebies and will post a link here when they are available.

I saved them on my computer so they show up under the parameters tab and morphs> morph loader. If anyone thinks they would be better somewhere else please give me your input and I'll try and make them so they are more user friendly.

Here are two posts showing before and after.

Nice work! You may also want to consider this upcoming product: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/23259/. It's supposed to be out later this month.

Zev0

Laticis said:

Great competition idea...very happy to support this one.

Show me what you can do :)

Stunning render as always:)

cecilia.robinson

I'd like to thank everybody for answering my silly questions, now I anticipate some dreadful critiques :D.

Szark

Zev0 said:

Laticis said:

Great competition idea...very happy to support this one.

Show me what you can do :)

Stunning render as always:)Yeah makes me sick. :) Laticis knows I am joking but I still hate him. :P Isn't that right dad?

Szark

cecilia.robinson said:

I'd like to thank everybody for answering my silly questions, now I anticipate some dreadful critiques :D.

how about some good critigue then, will that do. LOL

cecilia.robinson

Szark said:

cecilia.robinson said:

I'd like to thank everybody for answering my silly questions, now I anticipate some dreadful critiques :D.

how about some good critigue then, will that do. LOL

This would be wonderful, but I keep a policy of small, steady steps and I know my level, so dreadful is just more likely to happen :-). But yes, please keep ANY critiques coming.

Satira Capriccio

Am I reading this correctly? Even though the focus of the contest is on Genesis characters, we can use a Gen 4 (V4/M4/K4) character?

Or do you mean it has to be Genesis with the V4/M4/K4 shapes?

Scott-Livingston said:

FAQ
Q: What about non-Genesis characters? A: The focus of the contest is on Genesis characters. Non-Genesis characters are welcome in the WIP/Discussion Thread. That having been said, the rules don't REQUIRE that you use Genesis, so if you enter a non-Genesis character in the contest, it will be considered as long as the entry meets all necessary criteria.

I love creating my own characters, so I'd like to participate ... if the Gen 4 characters are allowed.

cecilia.robinson

Satira Capriccio said:

Am I reading this correctly? Even though the focus of the contest is on Genesis characters, we can use a Gen 4 (V4/M4/K4) character?

Or do you mean it has to be Genesis with the V4/M4/K4 shapes?

Scott-Livingston said:

FAQ
Q: What about non-Genesis characters?

A: The focus of the contest is on Genesis characters. Non-Genesis characters are welcome in the WIP/Discussion Thread. That having been said, the rules don't REQUIRE that you use Genesis, so if you enter a non-Genesis character in the contest, it will be considered as long as the entry meets all necessary criteria.

I love creating my own characters, so I'd like to participate ... if the Gen 4 characters are allowed.

I suppose it's meant for Generation 3 and 4 SHAPES, let's say, A4/H4 shapes for Genesis, but I might be wrong. Ask Scott, maybe even directly.

scorpio

Satira Capriccio said:

Am I reading this correctly? Even though the focus of the contest is on Genesis characters, we can use a Gen 4 (V4/M4/K4) character?

Or do you mean it has to be Genesis with the V4/M4/K4 shapes?

Scott-Livingston said:

FAQ
Q: What about non-Genesis characters? A: The focus of the contest is on Genesis characters. Non-Genesis characters are welcome in the WIP/Discussion Thread. That having been said, the rules don't REQUIRE that you use Genesis, so if you enter a non-Genesis character in the contest, it will be considered as long as the entry meets all necessary criteria.

I love creating my own characters, so I'd like to participate ... if the Gen 4 characters are allowed.

I hope its not just for Genesis, you create such wonderful and unique characters - I would love to see what you can come up with.

Scott Livingston

Satira Capriccio said:

Am I reading this correctly? Even though the focus of the contest is on Genesis characters, we can use a Gen 4 (V4/M4/K4) character?

Or do you mean it has to be Genesis with the V4/M4/K4 shapes?

Scott-Livingston said:

FAQ
Q: What about non-Genesis characters?

A: The focus of the contest is on Genesis characters. Non-Genesis characters are welcome in the WIP/Discussion Thread. That having been said, the rules don't REQUIRE that you use Genesis, so if you enter a non-Genesis character in the contest, it will be considered as long as the entry meets all necessary criteria.

I love creating my own characters, so I'd like to participate ... if the Gen 4 characters are allowed.
Ah, yes, that particular part of the fine print...I struggled a bit with that decision (as it is intended to be, first and foremost, a Genesis character competition). Ultimately I decided that if you have an interesting custom character to share, and your entry conforms to all the stated rules, that you shouldn't be disqualified due to your choice of figure. So yes: you can enter a Gen 4 character.

Szundown

riftwitch said:

Szundown said:

I made two ab smoothing morphs, one for fitness details and one for body builder details. I gotta say making a morph to counteract part of another morph is not so easy and they didn't turn out perfect but I think they work ok and really helped my character. I will put them up on renderosity as freebies and will post a link here when they are available.

I saved them on my computer so they show up under the parameters tab and morphs> morph loader. If anyone thinks they would be better somewhere else please give me your input and I'll try and make them so they are more user friendly.

Here are two posts showing before and after.

Nice work! You may also want to consider this upcoming product: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/23259/. It's supposed to be out later this month.

Thanks, and those morphs look really useful.

I actually re-did my ab smoothing morphs and added in Body Tone, so now there are three. I wasn't really happy with my first attempt and after giving it some thought I figured out a pretty good work flow that made it pretty easy and turned out pretty nice, at least IMO.

Here is a .jpg of genesis with Body Tone, Body Builder Details, and Fitness Details dialed in at 1 and then my smoothing morphs dialed in at .5 and .75 respectively.

I just submitted it on renderosity as a freebie so it should be available within 24 hrs. I will add a post and a link when they are so anyone who is interested can try them out.

Greycat

Gen David 3

David3, [ 1 ]
Freak4, [ 0.4 ]
BodyBuilderDetails, [ 0.6 ]
Nipples", [ 1 ]
Navel, [ 1 ]
David3Sebastian, [ 0.56 ]
David3Tristan, [ 0.5 ]
TemplesDefine, [ 1 ]
NoseBump, [ 0.6 ]
LipUpperDepth, [ -0.43 ]
LipLowerDepth, [ 0.3 ]
ForeheadFlat, [ 1 ]
EarlobesAttached, [ 1 ]
AdamsApple", [ 0.38 ]
EarsAngle, [ 1 ]

http://www.daz3d.com/david-3-for-genesis
http://www.daz3d.com/g4-and-f4-for-genesis