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I sincerely hope you're not dissing my trusty 4S! It still works fine, still makes phone calls.
Oh, and it's paid for.
But, to respond to the OP's question, sure G2F/M are still viable figures! I am constantly picking up new stuff for them (just yesterday, in fact), and I still use the hell out of them. (In a fit of inspired lunacy, I bought Bijou for Genesis 2 Female, so you know damn well that G2F will almost always be my go-to female figure, for rather a long while! I'm gonna milk that investment for all I can, for as long as I can! And the fact that she's a thunderin' babe definitely does not hurt!)
So, by all means, keep 'em coming! There is a market for them, and I would wager that there will be, for a good many years to come....
And I'm one of them! Hell, I still trot out V3 and M3 on occasion! (And Stephanie and David, when the situation warrants it -- like when they turn up in an RRRR pull!)
On a more serious and sober note (hard to do, after four Martinis!), I will say this: Genesis 2 is still my preferred, 'go-to' figure, for just about everything. Partially because I am also a hard-core Poser user, and G2 is the only DAZ figure (post-Generation 4) that can be used in Poser (version 9 and above, and -- pro-tip -- you need the latest version of the DSON Importer for Poser, version 1.2.0.12, as of this posting, to have any chance of getting them to work reliably); you can get the original Genesis figure to work in Poser, and there is a tutorial that shows you how to do it, but it's still a weapons-grade pain in the tuchus, so..., Genesis 2. I also use iClone for animations, and Genesis 2 is the latest DAZ figure supported by Reallusion's 3DXChange, which can bring third-party figures into iClone. So, simply on a cross-platform compatibility measure, focusing on Genesis 2 is probably a good strategic position.
So you have me as a potential customer on at least three different fronts. And I don't flatter myself that I am unique in this respect; there are a lot of us out there, who use multiple 3-D applications, with varying levels of content compatibility (but I would suspect that we choose our applications to most efficiently leverage our investment in that content -- because, let's face it, this stuff can get pricey!). So, Genesis 2 is the obvious platform, for the widest market.
From this point, it simply becomes a matter of, 'Show us what you got; if we like it, and can use it, we'll buy it.'
Does this help?
Can I point out your first mistake in your path to becoming a vendor? And this happens over and over and those potential vendors always get burned in first time sales and never repeat this mistake. You're free to repeat it, but you may want to pay attention to save you the lower sales the first time around. (NOTE: People will get upset at this advice, but it is what it is)
That mistake is asking people in a forum what you should sell.
You're going to get the loudest requests, but almost never the correct requests.
If a PA tells you what is selling, especially one that has been doing it for years... **listen to them**
With that, backtrack to what a PA said to you in this thread and you have your answer, as that's the advice I'm giving as well. You're free to do whatever, but do not be surprised when in the face of newer generation products, you end up with a flop on your hands and a bunch of people saying they don't have the money for it right now and they've wishlisted it for future purchases. (read that as months or years down the line). The ones you're selling to are those that almost never post because you've gave them what they've been looking for and presented your product adequately through your promos... not all of them, but that's where the majority of your sales will be coming from.
Pay attention to what is being offered in the market, then find your niche within that generation. Now if you just want to do both just because you want to, that's fine as well, but if you sell them separately you'll see the disparity in what is purchased to see the advice I'm giving you first hand. A lot of this requires knowledge in what the masses, not the forum users, want and confidence in your abilities.
When did you buy Bijou? I would love to buy her, but she's showing up priced at $349.95, $244.97 on sale!
Yep, and the $244-and-change price was what I paid for her! (I guess you kind of glossed over that 'fit of inspired lunacy' bit!
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I got her, mostly just to see if DAZ would let me. (They did!)
Bijou for G2F was introduced as a kind of 'promotion/reward' for a select group of special customers. (I really don't know the details of who qualified for that particular reward, since she was never offered to me), but in order to make her available to that select group (i.e., downloadable), she had to be in the catalog. So DAZ put that ludicrous price on her, in an effort to deter casual purchasers; otherwise, she wouldn't be 'exclusive'.
Good idea, in theory. Unfortunately, the theory failed to take into account a dedicated nut-ball (like Yours Truly). So, on a lark, I put her in my cart. The sale went through, and I now have her!
Wow. I must not be special, then. I've been here for two years and haven't gotten anything, despite having purchased over 2200 separate products. Now I'm sad :(
But this would be a good illustration in the "price vs value" discussion on another thread.
Well, if it's any consolation, apparently I'm not all that special either (unless you're talking short-bus 'special' -- see the whole 'buying Bijou' bit, above), despite the fact that I've been a PC member since 2009 (and it was my second go-round, at that), and my DAZ inventory tops out at just a skosh under 6200 products (or roughly a third of their catalog) -- including Bijou!
Not special, at all; just your average, everyday, run-of-the-mill, cash cow.
Although I did get one of those 3D-printed Victorias from a few years ago; that was pretty cool....
As a shopper, I really hate to agree with Male-M3dia, but he does have a point. I may get blasted for this opinion, but, as a potential PA, you really should listen to him. I'm sure there are a lot of happy customers who don't visit the forums and who are perfectly happy with everything that the PAs are offering in the shop. Most of the people who are very vocal in the forums have very distinct ideas of what they want to buy and what they would like to see PAs offer more of when it comes to products. However, we, also, don't have access to the sales statistics or have the experience that the PAs have. We can all say that we want more stuff for G2F or G2M or, in my case, more stuff for men of any generation, period! However, just because those of us in the forums are more vocal doesn't mean we actually know what sells best on a wider scope. Asking in the forums, what people want, is like only asking a quarter of your potential customer base what to sell.
Personally, I probably won't give up using the G2 generation for awhile simply because I have more toys for that generation, but the G3 generation is quickly catching up to the point where I can see using it more in the future. I gave an answer early in the thread that I still use the G2 generation for most of my renders and that is true. But, as more tools become available for it, that will and is changing. As a shopper here, I honestly don't care for which generation you sell something. If it is made well and I think I can use it and I have the money, I'll buy it. It doesn't really matter to me which generation as I'm not set on strictly one even though I'm rather fond of G2M and certain body parts. A lot of folks here definitely want and like to stick with what they know and some want the latest, greatest and newest.
I was actually determined not to buy any of the G3M figures that came out after the first one, Scott came out. There were issues about him that I didn't like and I preferred certain parts of G2M that were downright awful in G3M. However, because he is so good at what he does, I still bought Male-M3dia's last two figures which came out for G3M. The figures were good enough and unique enough that I was willing to overlook the things I didn't like about G3M to buy them. There have been a couple of other PAs who have made truly unique male figures for G3M that I've also been willing to buy.
So, if you think quality, uniqueness and versatility, you are probably ahead of the game.
I really think you'd be better off concentrating on the Genesis 3 characters. You'd likely get more longevity.
I still would love to get new things for G2 as well as G1 and G3
Heavily invested in G2 and skipping G3.
I have almost nothing for G3 - all my stuff is for V4 and G1 and G2. There really aren't enough freebies and what not for G3 so for now I'm sticking with G2 and under. Heck, most of my coolest stuff is for V4. If I could figure out how to transfer my V4 characters and morphs to G2 I would be very happy.
I don't use genesis 3, In fact I loath g3 because i can't get it work. So I can't use it for my type of art form I create with daz Studio. So anything to do with genesis 2 would be wonderful, especially if its has anything to do with Asian content that I can use in my Karate Girl storys.
PS: I didn't even knew this thread existed until now..lol Thank you for asking
What do you mean you get get it to work? What's the issue? Maybe we can help. G3 is really a great figure and you can do things with her that you can't with the previous gens. The skin with bump maps, "normal maps", displacement maps, etc can look much more realistic than previous generation figures. :)
Hi divamakeup
I am a hobby animator .. .I have been working with daz studio & poser for animation about 7 years.( lots of changes in that time) My principal interest in using daz studio is for animation. as I got bored making still render art with daz. I needed something more challenging for my storys I tell. . You may have missed my many comments in the threads. But I had stated( or complained) many times through out the forums threads that Genesis 3 does not work! why I say this is because it does not work in the type of animation I create & does not play well with the current animations tools and third party software that is available to use for animation without having to do a ton( and I mean a ton) of extra work to make it do what I need it to do in animation.Genesis 3 is also not backwards compatible with any other older generation figures daz has, and as a animator that has a large library of content for animation that is a must, considering the amount of characters and props that are used in a 10 minutes Story animations ( Not one of those 15 second test dancing girls animation) . Hence Genesis 3 does not work for my needs in daz studio. that is why I loath g3 for having too have so many work around getting it to work in animation. so to me its useless.
The reason I worded my comment the first time the way I did, was because I thought everyone already knew my feeling on genesis 3 because I am a Hobby animator and complained about this issues so much. i did not want to beat a dead horse sorry about the confusion
If you are interested in the type animations I may make you can view them on my Youtube channel
Have a great day
Edited for spelling & add a link
I still mostly buy products that have Genesis 2 & 3 versions and I LOVE it when I see a vendor release something with all three Genesis lines in there!
But I will admit, I've really warmed up to Gn3 (as I confess I always knew I would after a while), but I'm still waiting for Dimension3D's update to GenX2 before I completely go over. I have the Autofits, I have the UV geograph products, now all I need is the morph convertors and I'm satisfied.
Well, if your making stuff and you include versions for
G,G2,G3,V4,M4 then that include just about everyone. More work, bigger customer base, your call
Heck yeah. I jump around through the generations depending, but I will continue to buy G2 stuff as long as it's made. I use G2 quite a bit. Love the fact too that they look different from each other.
I'm going to plug please develop for G2, as well, although monetarily, doing combo G2 and G3 is probably an excllent idea. I heavily morphed and skinned my G2 characters and just can't imagine doing it all again in G3, but I long for some of the wonderful new clothes and poses that just don't work on G2. I'd imagine people who don't customize the bejeezus out of their characters can get switch pretty easily but since mine are primarily for book covers and associated promo material for a long series, I can't really. I'm always sad when I see some wonderful new outfit or pose set that I can't use.
So, my plug...and looking forward to seeing your creations!