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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,850

    I really appreciate new historical items, and of course their sets are always well-made technically, but seriously - I wish Xivon would not just jumble architectural features together as if they picked them from a Pinterest board, and then even mix them up with some Fantasy stuff. This goes for basically all the new releases that are supposed to portray 'old Britain'. Especially the windows irk me something terrible (well, and basically all of the 'mansion', tbh ...). Like in the bedroom, https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-mansion-bedroom, what period are these windows supposed to portray? You have the right size basically, and the right set for Georgian, and then you go and spoil it all with the weirdest kind of pane set-up? These things are so easy to google. 

    Also, what is the https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-factory supposed to be producing, I'm wondering? It seems deserted, actually. So is it even 'older' than 'old Britain'? But it says it was built 'in the roaring 20s', and we're encouraged to stage our 'gangster' scenes there ... I mean, what?!

    I'm sorry for ranting, I really am, but seeing that I'm not able to create stuff like this myself, I get so hyped up when I see something that I think is beautiful and fitting for a particular period, and then feel so let down when it's just not it, again.

  • ainm.sloinneadhainm.sloinneadh Posts: 519

    The side of the stately mansion made me blink. Three front doors from , apparently, the worlds slimmest terraced houses/offices, each opening into a front reception room that, if you look through the side windows, has a magical hidden floor halfway up the rather grand bay window. At least that's what I think I see.

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,834

    tsroemi said:

    But it says it was built 'in the roaring 20s', and we're encouraged to stage our 'gangster' scenes there ... I mean, what?!

    Don't you know about the famous gangster MacCapone and his last stand against the also very famous Scottland Yard shapeshipter agent, Eliott Ness ?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,460
    edited January 14

    tsroemi said:



    Also, what is the https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-factory supposed to be producing, I'm wondering? It seems deserted, actually.

     

    I wonder that about nearly all the factories at DAZ  

    they mostly toss in some sort of hopper and chute, lots of pipes with a boiler, some conveyer belts and a few pallets and call it a factory cheeky

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  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,837

    Steeltown Blast Furnace and Refineries are two good looking factory sets I own. Exterior views only which works fine, especially for for the refinery.

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,452
    edited January 14

    tsroemi said:

    But it says it was built 'in the roaring 20s', and we're encouraged to stage our 'gangster' scenes there ... I mean, what?!

    I'm guessing they have been watching Peaky Blinders - UK TV show?

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  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,435
    edited January 14

    tsroemi said:

    I really appreciate new historical items, and of course their sets are always well-made technically, but seriously - I wish Xivon would not just jumble architectural features together as if they picked them from a Pinterest board, and then even mix them up with some Fantasy stuff. This goes for basically all the new releases that are supposed to portray 'old Britain'. Especially the windows irk me something terrible (well, and basically all of the 'mansion', tbh ...). Like in the bedroom, https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-mansion-bedroom, what period are these windows supposed to portray? You have the right size basically, and the right set for Georgian, and then you go and spoil it all with the weirdest kind of pane set-up? These things are so easy to google. 

    Also, what is the https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-factory supposed to be producing, I'm wondering? It seems deserted, actually. So is it even 'older' than 'old Britain'? But it says it was built 'in the roaring 20s', and we're encouraged to stage our 'gangster' scenes there ... I mean, what?!

    I'm sorry for ranting, I really am, but seeing that I'm not able to create stuff like this myself, I get so hyped up when I see something that I think is beautiful and fitting for a particular period, and then feel so let down when it's just not it, again.

    This sort of thing works great for me. One of multiple reasons why many of my stories are entirely set in fictional worlds is that I can aim for generically period-appropriate, particularly to modern eyes, without kicking myself over textbook accuracy. 

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,835
    The window frames are a bit hard to swallow - I'm sorry that it feels like a bit of time saving went on there. I've modelled sash windows myself, and they take a lot more time than the windows shown. The factory, I have fewer problems with. There have been many factories that have changed occupation over the years, and it looks brilliant for a Colin Greenland 'In Harm's Way' type setting. Regards, Richard
  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,013

    Ignorance of the architectural details and the fact that these new sets would only be used as background scenery, leave me with only one question: Does anyone know if Xivon has learned to memory optimize his sets?

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,850

    xyer0 said:

    Ignorance of the architectural details and the fact that these new sets would only be used as background scenery, leave me with only one question: Does anyone know if Xivon has learned to memory optimize his sets?

    The younger ones I bought were a lot better than, say, the infamous viking set. So I'd say there's definitely been a learning process going on. 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,850

    richardandtracy said:

    The window frames are a bit hard to swallow - I'm sorry that it feels like a bit of time saving went on there. I've modelled sash windows myself, and they take a lot more time than the windows shown. The factory, I have fewer problems with. There have been many factories that have changed occupation over the years, and it looks brilliant for a Colin Greenland 'In Harm's Way' type setting. Regards, Richard

    The windows are the my biggest grievance as well, like I said, because they are such an important feature of a grand Georgian room. If I can't use the window front in my period renders at all, then that leaves me with a rather generic bedroom or library-cum-study-cum-living room area, and I already have many of those.The thing is, I love trying to simulate the actual visuals of being in period rooms in 3d renders - sort of trying to capture the feel for them this way, if you will. And this just won't work if something so prominent is done wrong.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,391

    It is a shame that the interior sets don't match the exterior. I assume they were developed seperately. The living room in particular has a large domed roof window that is not present in the exterior.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,863

    Interesting because the description of the XI Old British Mansion states:

    The XI Old British Mansion Living Room and XI Old British Mansion Bed Room sets load right into the mansion, the can be used as stand-alone or with the exterior. 

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,391

    Charlie Judge said:

    Interesting because the description of the XI Old British Mansion states:

    The XI Old British Mansion Living Room and XI Old British Mansion Bed Room sets load right into the mansion, the can be used as stand-alone or with the exterior. 

    Looking at it again, I do see that the windows and front door do match. However I am not sure how the domed glass window fits in. In addition there is a rectangular window and a round window above the front door which appear to be missing in the interior.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,013

    Thanks, @tsroemi! I'm taking the plunge.

  • PitmaticPitmatic Posts: 916

    tsroemi said:

    I really appreciate new historical items, and of course their sets are always well-made technically, but seriously - I wish Xivon would not just jumble architectural features together as if they picked them from a Pinterest board, and then even mix them up with some Fantasy stuff. This goes for basically all the new releases that are supposed to portray 'old Britain'. Especially the windows irk me something terrible (well, and basically all of the 'mansion', tbh ...). Like in the bedroom, https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-mansion-bedroom, what period are these windows supposed to portray? You have the right size basically, and the right set for Georgian, and then you go and spoil it all with the weirdest kind of pane set-up? These things are so easy to google. 

    Also, what is the https://www.daz3d.com/xi-old-british-factory supposed to be producing, I'm wondering? It seems deserted, actually. So is it even 'older' than 'old Britain'? But it says it was built 'in the roaring 20s', and we're encouraged to stage our 'gangster' scenes there ... I mean, what?!

    I'm sorry for ranting, I really am, but seeing that I'm not able to create stuff like this myself, I get so hyped up when I see something that I think is beautiful and fitting for a particular period, and then feel so let down when it's just not it, again.

    I have to agree, if there is anything I want to buy its enviroments Albert mansion and Harwood house show how it should be done. This set just seems to be a cut and paste exercise of elements that dont belong together I know its harsh to say it, but as a potential customer thats what it looks like to me.

  • protosyntheticprotosynthetic Posts: 159
    edited January 15

    xyer0 said:

    Ignorance of the architectural details and the fact that these new sets would only be used as background scenery, leave me with only one question: Does anyone know if Xivon has learned to memory optimize his sets?

    Or pivot doors from the hinges instead of the center. Or not instance interior doors with exterior ones. Or, or, or...

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  • zidra.lodenzidra.loden Posts: 92

    These 'Old Britain' sets remind me of some anime versions of building design, magpie-like grabbing of details from all over, with no coherent aesthetic. How difficult would it be to base these designs on real buildings?

  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 990

    Big thank you to Kindred Arts for the awesome Filatoon Shaders today and the Filatoon Skies some days back! smileyheartI looked at only the main promo picture for the shaders and into the cart they flew. My tokens were expiring today - so that and my DAZ+ coupon got me a nice price. Just need to find some time soon to play with these Filatoon goodies.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,459

    SapphireBlue said:

    Big thank you to Kindred Arts for the awesome Filatoon Shaders today and the Filatoon Skies some days back! smileyheartI looked at only the main promo picture for the shaders and into the cart they flew. My tokens were expiring today - so that and my DAZ+ coupon got me a nice price. Just need to find some time soon to play with these Filatoon goodies.

    I would have been more prepred to buy them if some of or at least 1 promo had them used in a scene.  

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,665

    People interested in the FilaToon shader should have a look here.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,483
    edited January 22

    As a German, I actually recognised the ‘XI German Village’ https://www.daz3d.com/xi-german-village as such at first glance. The atmosphere is very well captured. However, I wouldn't expect the village to be in (Upper) Bavaria, but rather in the southern Eifel region, among many other places. Bavaria is probably the only German region that is internationally recognised, which is why the label 'Bavarian' is attached to everything that has anything to do with traditional German architecture. Even if the part of Bavaria that is supposed to fulfil the cliché is built in a completely different way.

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  • ElorElor Posts: 1,834

    It would not look out of place in Alsace too.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,835
    edited January 22

    I had a very happy summer holiday in the Eifel region of West Germany many years ago when the family lived in Paderborn, and I have to agree with Caravelle:  the older towns in the Eifel region looked just like the model. It is a superbly evocative model.

    Would also love to see Xivon do a model of Burg Eltz - a place I'd love to have on a model railway as well as the background of a DS landscape.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,254

    I was charmed by the XI town but it was AM's newest animal that jumped into my cart, https://www.daz3d.com/quoll-by-am. I had never heard of the critter but he/she is adorable. I had to Google what a Quoll is. Just don't let it bite you!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,460

    memcneil70 said:

    I was charmed by the XI town but it was AM's newest animal that jumped into my cart, https://www.daz3d.com/quoll-by-am. I had never heard of the critter but he/she is adorable. I had to Google what a Quoll is. Just don't let it bite you!

    not particularly vicious, I have hand fed them 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,785

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    memcneil70 said:

    I was charmed by the XI town but it was AM's newest animal that jumped into my cart, https://www.daz3d.com/quoll-by-am. I had never heard of the critter but he/she is adorable. I had to Google what a Quoll is. Just don't let it bite you!

    not particularly vicious, I have hand fed them 

    This animal only lives in Australia ?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,460
    edited January 22

    crosswind said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    memcneil70 said:

    I was charmed by the XI town but it was AM's newest animal that jumped into my cart, https://www.daz3d.com/quoll-by-am. I had never heard of the critter but he/she is adorable. I had to Google what a Quoll is. Just don't let it bite you!

    not particularly vicious, I have hand fed them 

    This animal only lives in Australia ?

    New Guinea apparently too

    I fed them at a wildlife park in Tasmania with pellets they siold for that purpose 

    unlike the devils, those you don't handfeed devil

    was on holiday with my Mum who died 24 years ago so must have been a long time ago

    (I live in Adelaide) 

     

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,785

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    crosswind said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    memcneil70 said:

    I was charmed by the XI town but it was AM's newest animal that jumped into my cart, https://www.daz3d.com/quoll-by-am. I had never heard of the critter but he/she is adorable. I had to Google what a Quoll is. Just don't let it bite you!

    not particularly vicious, I have hand fed them 

    This animal only lives in Australia ?

    New Guinea apparently too

    I fed them at a wildlife park in Tasmania with pellets they siold for that purpose 

    unlike the devils, those you don't handfeed devil

    was on holiday with my Mum who died 24 years ago so must have been a long time ago

    (I live in Adelaide) 

     

    Ah, it's good to know. Thanks ! laugh

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