Snow Beast..ROOAARRR!!! [commercial]

RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

Snow Beast for G8M

https://www.daz3d.com/snow-beast-with-dforce-hair-for-genesis-8-male

These mythical spirits of nature are lovers of wine, music, dancing, and women. Dancing and singing throughout the woodlands or mountains, their revelry is unsurpassed, seduction and debauchery await.

The set comes complete with custom crafted High Definition Morphs, dForce Fur and Highly detailed Textures for the utmost realism.

  • Product Includes
    • One Snow Beast Male Character Preset
    • One Snow Beast Male Shaping Preset
    • One with dForce Hair Fur Preset
    • Three Full Body Texture Material Presets with anatomical elements
    • Five Eye Material Presets
    • Includes only Iray Material Presets (sorry 3DL users..I tried)

 

 

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  • jedijuddjedijudd Posts: 606

    Another one of your characters I have to buy, he looks great

  • isidornisidorn Posts: 1,601

    Clicking on the product in the store, both the main store page and today's holiday store page, only takes me to the DAZ start page. I have to put the product in the cart first and click on it in my cart before I get to the product page. (Or use the link above in the forum post) I hope that's not a common problem that could cause lost sales.

  • I love the snow beast but he is not showing up in DIM or Daz Connect. 

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

    Sorry for the complications....I have emailed DAZ, but with it being holidays I can't say how quick it will be fixed.

    It is frustrating for sure

     

  • Hello isidorn and RawArt,

    I am a web-developer here ar Daz3D and I am looking into the product linking issue. So far I havent been able to replicate the problem. I was wondering if I can get some info from you. Can you tell me what browser you are using? Are you signed in or not when the problem occurs?

    Thanks in advance for the information! We will do our best to get it fixed quickly.

    -Chris

  • Hi,

    On the shop page, the link on the product just shows www.daz3d.com when hovering over it.

    Adding it to the cart, the item links to the correct product page.

    I use the Maxthon Browser version V5.2.6.1000.

    I attached a screen grab.

    Hope this helps.

     

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  • isidornisidorn Posts: 1,601

    Whatever the problem was, it seems to be fixed now.

    If needed for future troubleshooting, I was using Edge (Yes I know it sucks) and I was logged in when I had the problem.

  • Raw you really did a nice job on the fur one of the best dForce fur out there so hat's off to you and merry Xmas :)

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

    I am glad everything is working again

     

    Raw you really did a nice job on the fur one of the best dForce fur out there so hat's off to you and merry Xmas :)

    Thank You Midnight Stories, I made this guy because I really wanted to make a character with alot of fur, really thick and shaggy

     

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,849
    edited December 2019

    Abominable. Abominadorable? Something like that anyway.

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  • I rarely get bipedal monsters, but I have to say, this fellow is a quite handsome brute. I like the shaggy look best. Looks like his expressions can be subtle from the promo pics. I've got some lovely snow scenes and cliffs I've wanted to use which will give him a good home. 

  • He looks great with Tobyn

     

  • Hi I purchased the SnowBeast, But I have had a bit of a problem with it . It will not render in iray it locks my machine. I can render the fur by itself, but as soon as I attach it to the g8m it locks it up. I have many of your other products like the Wolfbeast which is kinda the same and no problem rendering. I updated all my drivers on my GPU and Graphics card and there is  no difference. It throws an error and shuts down Daz Studio but will not allow me to read the error window.Please help thanks.

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

    Hi I purchased the SnowBeast, But I have had a bit of a problem with it . It will not render in iray it locks my machine. I can render the fur by itself, but as soon as I attach it to the g8m it locks it up. I have many of your other products like the Wolfbeast which is kinda the same and no problem rendering. I updated all my drivers on my GPU and Graphics card and there is  no difference. It throws an error and shuts down Daz Studio but will not allow me to read the error window.Please help thanks.

    This is a question best looked at by DAZs tech people, so submitting a ticket would be your best way to get an answer.

    The fur on this beast is a higher density than some of my other ones, It is likely and issue with computer resources and how they are being use but I have no problems with it locking things up and my computer is ancient. So I really cannot say what is going on.

     

  • Any chance of a Female morph/version?

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

    Any chance of a Female morph/version?

    Probably not...sorry

  • RawArt said:

    Any chance of a Female morph/version?

    Probably not...sorry

    Well...crud. :(

  • Hello everybody

    Unfortunately I can not render the model with hair. I don't think it's because of my system performance. Before rendering, the model uses up all my RAM. I have 32 GB of ram. It crashes every time. It works with any other Rawart model, even with other extensions to the Genesis 8 model. I don't know what to do.


    My System:

    Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6G

    AMD FX 8300

    32 GB DDR3 1600 MhZ

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694
    edited March 2020

    I cannot render "Snow Beast" with his fur suit. Machine goes into perpetual "render mode" but an image doesn't appear in a render window, even after leaving to run all night. When I cancel the render,  DAZ Studio closes down, Poof! I can render the beast without his fur suit, and that's ok for me, but I did like his conformation with the fur.  Without details at hand, suffice to say, I have DAZ Studio 4.12, Win10 and a brand new gamer computer with lots of memory. I tried a trick with the Smilodon another very hair model, which was, load the default figure, delete the fur suit, reload fur suit from menu, and that worked for me, but it didn't work with Snow Beast. 

    Question: which figure should be loaded "Raw Snow Beast" or "Snow Beast CHR"? Neither will render with the fur. 

    Attached is a render "A Boy and His Dog, Sorta", without the fur for either model, so it rendered very quickly. I see a great future for this pair.  

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    IceScribe said:

    I cannot render "Snow Beast" with his fur suit. Machine goes into perpetual "render mode" but an image doesn't appear in a render window, even after leaving to run all night. When I cancel the render,  DAZ Studio closes down, Poof! I can render the beast without his fur suit, and that's ok for me, but I did like his conformation with the fur.  Without details at hand, suffice to say, I have DAZ Studio 4.12, Win10 and a brand new gamer computer with lots of memory. I tried a trick with the Smilodon another very hair model, which was, load the default figure, delete the fur suit, reload fur suit from menu, and that worked for me, but it didn't work with Snow Beast. 

    Question: which figure should be loaded "Raw Snow Beast" or "Snow Beast CHR"? Neither will render with the fur. 

    Attached is a render "A Boy and His Dog, Sorta", without the fur for either model, so it rendered very quickly. I see a great future for this pair.  

    Definitely sounds like there's some weird stuff going on if things are hanging like that. What exactly are your system specs including RAM? Are you running the latest NVIDIA driver? 

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694

    Hi @melissastjames, I don't have the specifics to hand, but this is new and updates machine made for gaming. The .dufs for both figures don't appear to be overly large. There is something about the loading of the fur png that hangs, at "loading arms" just never get past that. When I try a screen capture of the error message, the blank render screen takes over, and then I get the general error message, wait for program (which hasn't worked) and close. 

    Now, loading the fur separately from the Hair option, I can render just the fur without the figure. Adding the figure Raw Snow Beast, and deleting its fur, and framing just the nesk andhead gives me a render with much less fur, but renderable, at least around the face and ears.Here's a stupid render, which filled in the back with black, but there are a few hairs on the top of the skull are somewhat visible, but none are visible around the the face. 

    I don't know that much about LAMH, but the catalyzer doesn't recognize the Iray fur or the figure. I didn't bother with dforce, as the fur was already problematic. As for specs I don't know. I bought a gamer machine with lots of memory, as per the specs for DAZ Studio 4.12, and everything is updated as within the past couple weeks. I'm not savvy about computer innards beyond that.  The only other figure I cannot render as default furred figure is the Smilodon by Alessandro, which I worked through loading that fur and figure separately. 

    I tried a trick of cut-out transparencey for every part of Snow Beast except the head and neck, but that didn't work, the image halted loading at 'arms' which I had cut out. Now I will try with the CHR Beast version. I don't know what the purpose of either over the other is. 

     

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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,005
    Are you trying to render with the LAMH catalyzer? As far as I remember this didn't come with LAMH presets, unless those were available somewhere else. Have you downloaded the DAZ Studio strand based hair files? Even if you aren't doing a dforce simulation, it would need the shaders from that I believe. Also add mentioned above I'd check on the Nvidia driver version.
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited March 2020
    IceScribe said:

    Hi @melissastjames, I don't have the specifics to hand, but this is new and updates machine made for gaming. The .dufs for both figures don't appear to be overly large. There is something about the loading of the fur png that hangs, at "loading arms" just never get past that. When I try a screen capture of the error message, the blank render screen takes over, and then I get the general error message, wait for program (which hasn't worked) and close. 

    Now, loading the fur separately from the Hair option, I can render just the fur without the figure. Adding the figure Raw Snow Beast, and deleting its fur, and framing just the nesk andhead gives me a render with much less fur, but renderable, at least around the face and ears.Here's a stupid render, which filled in the back with black, but there are a few hairs on the top of the skull are somewhat visible, but none are visible around the the face. 

    I don't know that much about LAMH, but the catalyzer doesn't recognize the Iray fur or the figure. I didn't bother with dforce, as the fur was already problematic. As for specs I don't know. I bought a gamer machine with lots of memory, as per the specs for DAZ Studio 4.12, and everything is updated as within the past couple weeks. I'm not savvy about computer innards beyond that.  The only other figure I cannot render as default furred figure is the Smilodon by Alessandro, which I worked through loading that fur and figure separately. 

    I tried a trick of cut-out transparencey for every part of Snow Beast except the head and neck, but that didn't work, the image halted loading at 'arms' which I had cut out. Now I will try with the CHR Beast version. I don't know what the purpose of either over the other is. 

     

    By your description, it kind of sounds like you're running out of system RAM. Please don't take it the wrong way because I'm just trying to help, but in many a conversation over issues with activities that will put a computer through its paces, whether it be gaming or rendering, I've lost count of how many times I've heard "but it's a gaming machine." "Gaming machine" is such a huge umbrella term. There are $500 gaming machines and there are $5,000 gaming machines and everything in-between. If you could provide your system specs, I think that would help out anybody who happens to come across this thread, especially when you've also been having issues with AM's newest release. From what I've seen, dForce hair uses a massive amount of system RAM. I have 32GB of RAM and I noticed that when I was rendering the Smilodon, my system usage was sitting at about 75% with just the Smilodon all by his lonesome. 

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  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694

    @melissastjames,

    thank you for your advice.  I ran the render of the default RawSnowbeat, and again the loading is where the program hung up at this point:  Loading image Arms Snobeastfur(Snobeastfur).png

    here's what Task Manager shows 

    0% cpu
    63% Memory 3,140.3MB
    0% Disk
    0 % Network
    1% GPU

    I am quite unlearned about what the specifications are and more so, where they are. In the new Windows 10, I cannot find familiar file names, or places. DAZ lets me "go to file location" so that helps. But if I don't know what Windows has labeled things. I purchased this machine by the specs as listed by DAZ STudio page.  I can't "find" among the myriad of other folders what I used to be able to. I get the concept of "not enough memory", but I don't know what should be enough for the Snow Beast, compared to other products I have no problem loading or rendering.  I do not run other programs/apps knowingly while rendering. I do not grasp the difference between the amount of memory available to run animation/streaming/gaming but not enough for a static render, but your post says other people have a similar attitude. I'm prepared to go with "not enough memory" but I don't know what that entails. Can't currently afford "more memory". 

    @AlmightyQUEST I don't know about "DAZ Studio strand based hair files" so I will look for that. 

     

     

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694
    edited March 2020

    @melissastjames,

    Ok, finally was able to find some information on my system

    dzstrandhair.sdl found in Shaders 

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)i7-9750H CPU @ s.60Hz 2.59 GHz
    Installed RAM 16
    16.0 GB (15.8) useable
    system type 64 bit operating system 

    If this is not enough RAM, are there workarounds?

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  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694

    Ok, here's what i did just for a "portrait". On both the body and the fur,  I closed all the eyes on the shoulders to hands, and pelvis, and thighs to toes. I got to the "verbose" part of the render history box, held my breath, and voila, rendered took 8 minutes and 58 seconds.  Does this help anyone see what the problem is?

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  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694
    edited March 2020

    deleted, accidentally reposted

    Post edited by IceScribe on
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    IceScribe said:

    @melissastjames,

    Ok, finally was able to find some information on my system

    dzstrandhair.sdl found in Shaders 

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)i7-9750H CPU @ s.60Hz 2.59 GHz
    Installed RAM 16
    16.0 GB (15.8) useable
    system type 64 bit operating system 

    If this is not enough RAM, are there workarounds?

    I honestly can't say if 16GB is enough for dForce hair and other "heavy" stuff. I can say that I have 32GB and it frequently gets quite used by Daz. When I first started getting into 3D stuff about a year and a half ago, I was told that it's all about the CPU, but it seems to me it's more about the GPU and RAM and less about the CPU...at least with Iray. Are there people that render just fine with only 16GB of RAM? I'm sure...they'd have to chime in though and say if they're able to do stuff like dForce hair, etc. 

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,945

    Sorry I was away yesterday when you had these issues.

    Since you were able to render the hair eventually, it sounds more like a system issue than a product issue. My computer is ancient (about 8yrs old) so I feel it is good at making sure things are generally very system friendly and dont need big powerhouse machines. But that said, a full body fur is bound to slow down any machine.

    I am not very tech savy about what goes on inside computers, so I wont be much help there....although it sounds like you are getting good information. Sorry i cannot do more for you.

     

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694

    @RawArt,

    thank you for getting back to me anyway. It probably is something about the configuration of my machine. Can you tell me what is the difference between the 2 figure choices in the Smart Content: " Raw Snow Beast" 

    and "Snow Beast CHR"? Which should I use?

     

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