Question About Obsolete Products
neoman
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I'm wondering if it is okay to donate a product to others if that product is no longer available for sale anymore in the Daz Studio shop or other vendor websites? I have some products people have asked about and I would like to give them the product.
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Basically, NO. You can only share the product if the the producing artist has specifically given permission to do so.
Basically you shouldn't. That product has an author and whether it's in the store or not, it's copyrighted independently of the DAZ store or any other means of disseminating their work. That author has granted you a license, on a personal level, for a specific use. The means of disseminating their work, in this case the DAZ store, is not the one that owns the copyright. The copyright remains with the author of the work.
Have a little empathy and put yourself in the author's shoes. If the work were yours, would you want someone else to distribute it without your permission just because it's no longer sold in the place where they acquired it? Would you want that used as an excuse to deprive you of the income from your work?
From the first message, it's apparently not available for purchase at all, because it's no longer sold here and not sold elsewere so the 'lost outcome' argument has no merit.
It doesn't change the outcome: it's not legal to share someone's creation without an autorization by its creator and there is neiter a reason nor a need to invoke an argument without merit.
almost everything has an alternative
usually better if newer
people get nostalgic seeing someone else's render and liking some outfit for V4 no longer around but someone who owns that product can probably tell them the material zones are limited, it has painted highlights, the topography is poor and dforces dreadfullly and she cannot really sit down in it.
I won't name names but I own some iconic outfits discontinued by current PAs I would never use now because frankly they improved by leaps and bounds since
In principle, only the authors / vendors can donate or bestow their products to others no matter the products are on sales or not, or even freebies... If you want to do so, you have to 1st of all get the permissions from the authors.
For freebies, you should be able to post the original link only... unless the authors stated you're free to share the file package(s).
Short answer: No, this would not be okay without permission.
Longer answer (which comes with an "I am not a lawyer" disclaimer): Copyright does not stipulate that a rights holder has to make their content available in order to maintain that copyright. It would be daft if it did, because the whole concept of copyright is that the rights holder can decide when and how their work is further distributed, and "not at all" is a legitimate answer to that.
(Okay, in some cases some copyright adjacent things like trademarks and rights licensing have to be shown to still be being exercised to remain protected in law, but in the case of Daz Studio assets, their copyright should be maintained for the normal duration, which certainly won't have expired yet. And by the time it has expired in many decades, the formats and technology will probably be wildly obsolete.)
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*That said*, check freebies sites. Some creators have uploaded their retired content to such sites (wanting to clean up their store portfolios from older work and not wanting to be on the hook for support, but also wanting to keep it available) - I know for example that Sickleyield has uploaded bundles of her old V4 era content over on ShareCG. (Which was useful for me, as there were some other old V4 texture sets I wanted to try to use for a render, and still having the base models available somewhere was welcome).
NO!
It's illegal and goes against the EULA (END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT) that you agreed to when you downloaded the product. Is that clear enough.
You are an end user with the license to use the assets for making your art.. You do not, and never have had the right to distribute those asset, which is what you are asking. And how the heck do you know what the original creator is doing with the models they created. They own the copyright. You don't. Not yours to share with anybody, anywhere, anytime.
Thanks for all the insight! I appreciate it!
...but there was neve an "update" of The Creeper or a reasonable replacement.
Same for the Biguana
There were rumours of a Biguana 8.1 here in teh forums bur that was three years ago.
Daz needs to do a "resurrection" day sale and bring some of these old favourites back even If just for a day.