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  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    Thanks.  I was pretty happy with how lovely the scene turned out - and how quickly it came together.  

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287

    I do love your female fantasy characters - they are really inspiring.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    Thanks! I try to be original.
  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    edited May 2018

    No Good Before Coffee

    Ever get a crazy-silly render idea?  

    Had fun with this one.  It was a challenge to fit The Fallen One into Missy Outfit which was designed for Teen Josie. It did have lots of adjustment morphs, but it wasn't exactly what I would call a good fit.  

    The streaming light was a distant light out the window, as I didn't want to over saturate the HDRI.  I added an extra bloom effect in Photoshop.  

     

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548

    Bwahahaha!  Thats EXACTLY what I feel like before my first cup of coffee. Fantastic!

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    Yeah, a little too like real life, huh?

    Go figure, it's a silly render and my best Iray lighting to date.

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287

    That is so funny.  I once said I am like Schrödingers cat until I have had coffee - both dead and alive.  It's a great render too.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    Thanks themidget - though personally, I'm more on the dazed and confused side before coffee.  I used to have a job with a very early start after a long stretch commute, so I would be getting up at 3:30 a.m. and stumble into the kitchen with one eye closed and the other barely open and twitching.  

    And then... coffee.  A 16-ounce travel mug was necessary equipment to get me to work.  Fortunately I don't do that anymore.  I'm still an early riser (it's been trained into me after years of doing that), so now I sleep in until 6:00. 

  • NoswenNoswen Posts: 358

    Who hasn't felt like this? laugh

    Fun idea, and nicely done.

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    dracorn said:

    I'm still an early riser (it's been trained into me after years of doing that), so now I sleep in until 6:00. 

    6.00 doesn't exist until after teatime!

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    I thought teatime was somewhere around 3:00 pm... am I right?

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287

    In England, usually around 4.00pm or 5.00pm.  Dinner time could be either the same as lunch time or the same as tea time.  I think people have differing ideas on this though.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    Next question - what's the most popular tea?

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    dracorn said:

    Next question - what's the most popular tea?

    That's a hard one.  Most English drink coffee nowadays but if they do drink tea it is often a blend of indian teas.  I'm in Sweden now and my wife loves Ceylon.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2018

    Why not ask a Brit.  Most popular style of tea is Black tea  I drink English Breakfast (for bbreakfast)  I normally drink Earl Grey during the day, also like Darjeeling.  I think that any one of those 3 would be in contention for which is most popular  Proper tea, loose leaf tea brewed in a teapot.  There are a great many sorts of tea, and many people drink many different teas.    And Most Brits that I know still drink tea. Black tea, usually with milk and optional sugar.

    There is no definitive answer on this as people's taste buds differ.

    Tastes best drunk from a bone china tea cup.

    oh and BTW, almost forgot.   Teatime   ......    depends which area of Britain you are in.   Northern areas they have breakfast dinner and tea,  also over here in Wales it is similar and I think maybe parts of Scotland; so Tea Time is a meal time - not just a time to have a cup of tea.     Southern areas of England  it will be Breakfast Lunch and Dinner,  with afternoon tea at 3pm (or somteime later up to 4pm).  Hobbits of course have more meal times  (and yes Hobbits are British, and drink tea)

     

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  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287

    Yeah, tea is your evening meal whether it is a main meal or a snack.  Dinner can be lunch or tea.  Common brits like me skip breakfast and have dinner and tea and perhaps supper.  Tea if drunk is usually with milk and optionally sugar but coffee is drunk far more.  Traditionalists such as the upper classes are more likely to stick with tea, drunk from a small teacup with the little pinky slightly bentcheeky

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2018
    themidget said:

    Yeah, tea is your evening meal whether it is a main meal or a snack.  Dinner can be lunch or tea.  Common brits like me skip breakfast and have dinner and tea and perhaps supper.  Tea if drunk is usually with milk and optionally sugar but coffee is drunk far more.  Traditionalists such as the upper classes are more likely to stick with tea, drunk from a small teacup with the little pinky slightly bentcheeky

    oh  no.  not the pinky bit,   that is only done by wannabees who think it is the right way, totally pretentious.   And I still totally disagree about the coffee.  i may have a jar of instant in the cupboard somewhere,  whether is it within it's best before date is another thing. I do have 5 different sorts of tea, proper tea, plus Mint tea and Fruit tea as I won't drink proper tea in the evenings. ( don't tell me to use decaffeinated,  that's tea flvoured water, not proper tea).  

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  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    Chohole said:
    themidget said:

    Yeah, tea is your evening meal whether it is a main meal or a snack.  Dinner can be lunch or tea.  Common brits like me skip breakfast and have dinner and tea and perhaps supper.  Tea if drunk is usually with milk and optionally sugar but coffee is drunk far more.  Traditionalists such as the upper classes are more likely to stick with tea, drunk from a small teacup with the little pinky slightly bentcheeky

    oh  no.  not the pinky bit,   that is only done by wannabees who think it is the right way, totally pretentious.   And I still totally disagree about the coffee.  i may have a jar of instant in the cupboard somewhere,  whether is it within it's best before date is another thing. I do have 5 different sorts of tea, proper tea, plus Mint tea and Fruit tea as I won't drink proper tea in the evenings. ( don't tell me to use decaffeinated,  that's tea flvoured water, not proper tea).  

    You disagree about the coffee?  You must be a generation older than me.  (I doubt if you can be more than a generation older!frown)

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2018

    Seriously   My Parents were middle class, Mum slightly more upper middle class than Dad. We had Breakfasst Lunch and Dinner.  Tea was drunk at Breakfast, Lunch and Afternoon Tea, with a slice of cake (homemade of course) Coffee was taken after dinner. Percolated coffee from freshly gorund coffee beans. Only difference was Sunday when Dinner was at lunchtime and then High Tea in the evening.  One of my sons took to this routine, he trained as a chef in a typical pub/restaurant chain, the younger never got on with tea and became a coffee drinkler in his mid teens, when he started helping out at an Italian restaurant after school and on Saturdays.  Himself was a coffee drinker.  However now I am on my own (lost himself just 2 years ago) I just can't be bothered.  don't much like instant coffee, and can't be bothered to brew proper coffee for just one cup.

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  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    edited May 2018

    A number of years ago I had the pleasure of being invited to a proper English tea.  We were served an Indian tea (for the life of me I don't recall the name).  Our host explained as he served the tea that "mother" serves the tea, regardless of whether it's a host or hostess.  It was delightful - I had about 6 cups and felt a little dizzy... a little too much caffeine for me. We had little sandwiches and cookies with the tea.  I tried - honestly, I really tried, but I just could not eat the marmite.

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  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,119

    I'm Scottish and I have always had Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. High Tea was something you got when you were away for the day, usually Fish and Chips in a Cafe/Restaurant/Hotel.

    We have a Hobbit. Age 5, comes through the door at 07:30 am and has Breakfast, then second Breakfast, Mid Morning Snack, Elevenses, Lunch, Afternoon Snack, Pre Dinner Snack, Dinner. Then she goes home and has a Snack and then Supper before bed, and she isn't the size of Tuppence/Two Cents. I have four more Grandchildren who think Grannies house is the local free Supermarket, my wife never refuses them a request for food :)

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    dracorn said:

    I tried - honestly, I really tried, but I just could not eat the marmite.

    I live in Sweden now and the swedes who have tried it think marmite is disgusting.  I don't know if they are using it wrong though.  I saw some videos on youtube of swedes trying marmite and they were spreading large amounts of it directly onto dry toast.  You have to add butter or margerine first so that you can spread the marmite very thin then it becomes a lovely savoury flavour.  I used to use it in vegetarian stocks for soup and gravy.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2018
    themidget said:
    dracorn said:

    I tried - honestly, I really tried, but I just could not eat the marmite.

    I live in Sweden now and the swedes who have tried it think marmite is disgusting.  I don't know if they are using it wrong though.  I saw some videos on youtube of swedes trying marmite and they were spreading large amounts of it directly onto dry toast.  You have to add butter or margerine first so that you can spread the marmite very thin then it becomes a lovely savoury flavour.  I used to use it in vegetarian stocks for soup and gravy.

       BTW    One survey result

    • 52% favour tea as the best hot drink
    • 35% say they prefer coffee
    • 11% like neither tea or coffee as their favourite hot drink
    • 3% can't choose or "don’t know"
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  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957
    edited May 2018

    I didn't want to interrupt this lovely conversation about tea, but I do want to say that your image of the lonely tower was really good. Thank you for sharing it. And the coffee one was simply brilliant. Nicely done on the lighting.

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  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    themidget said:
    dracorn said:

    I tried - honestly, I really tried, but I just could not eat the marmite.

    I live in Sweden now and the swedes who have tried it think marmite is disgusting.  I don't know if they are using it wrong though.  I saw some videos on youtube of swedes trying marmite and they were spreading large amounts of it directly onto dry toast.  You have to add butter or margerine first so that you can spread the marmite very thin then it becomes a lovely savoury flavour.  I used to use it in vegetarian stocks for soup and gravy.

    I tried a tiny amount on a folded piece of toast (no butter) and through great discipline and effort on my part (as it would be impolite to spit it out), was able to get one bite down.  But that was it.  Perhaps if the opportunity arises again, I will try it as you suggest, but I defiantly won't be seeking it out on my own.

    I imagine that the idea of Pickled Pigs Feet would gross you out. My mom was from Texas and loved it. I had it with her, but never bought it myself. It's sour and chewy, and definitely an acquired taste.  On that note, I wonder what the folks across the pond think about pork rinds?  I stay away from them because deep fried fat is unforgiving to the waistline. My mom's cooking oil of choice was leftover bacon grease - very southern.  Since my dad was Croatian, I grew up with an interesting combination of Mediterranean and southern food.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    Wanderer said:

    I didn't want to interrupt this lovely conversation about tea, but I do want to say that your image of the lonely tower was really good. Thank you for sharing it. And the coffee one was simply brilliant. Nicely done on the lighting.

    Why thank you!  I was pretty happy with the easy results from Terra Dome 3.  And the coffee render is my best Iray lighting to date.  I've been working on some other renders which I have never posted, because I've been struggling with the lighting.  I'm a serious fan of dramatic and darker renders with deep shadows. 

    Iray is so much harder that way than 3Delight. With AoA's Advanced Lighting I could add just a little light where I wanted it and light that subject only with no shadows, essentially adding a spot of ambient light. Those renders were never grainy.  I still haven't gotten it yet with Iray, even though I've been making use of Ghost Lights 2, Iray Light Probe Kit and Tenebroso Lighting to add ambient light to a limited area and to cut back on graininess.  

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    Yeah, I totally understand. I've never been able to figure out 3DL (I know--go figure), but just to compare, I made a scene in Reality and gave it a simple light with color--could not duplicate that scene exactly in Iray no matter what I tried doing in the shader settings. Problem? Reality took 2 hours to render what Iray did in 12 minutes. Not the same thing--as Reality can be picky about lighting, too. But just saying, Iray has a few odd things I cannot figure out.

    You're very skilled already, so maybe this isn't helpful, but someone else might find it useful for Iray lighting: Creating a primitive, making it emissive, playing with 2-sided light toggle, and setting the cutout opacity to something like .00000001 (silly as that sounds) helps put light right where you want it sometimes--but must be done carefully to avoid looking odd. Like if I have a light source that is too far away from something to light it well, but turning it up enough to light the area you want will wash out other colors and details, then you can help the light get to its destination by placing an invisible primitive with emission in alignment with the light source, but much closer to the object. I don't have the ghost lights--so maybe they do the very same thing. Just wanted to help. If this is too much, please just ignore me.

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    dracorn said:
    themidget said:
    dracorn said:

      On that note, I wonder what the folks across the pond think about pork rinds? 

    Crackling - love it.  Crisp and lightly salted.  They are sold in bags in England when they are called pork scratchings.  When I was young, my mum roasted the pork, grilled the crackling and put the liquid fat in a cup in the fridge.  We called that dripping and spread it on bread and toast with a little salt.  Here in Sweden they have pickled herring (yuck!) but you could also try surströmming.  I'll leave you to google that one and find out for yourself but you never open a can indoors!!!

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    Holy cow, Wanderer - I just looked at your link for stained glass in Iray.  I'm really impressed by your results, they are gorgeous!  I'm going to have to try it. 

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957
    dracorn said:

    Holy cow, Wanderer - I just looked at your link for stained glass in Iray.  I'm really impressed by your results, they are gorgeous!  I'm going to have to try it. 

    Thank you so much, @dracorn. That's high praise indeed. I wish I could get more of my work to that level of quality. Please try those things--I wish you sucess in this.

     

    @themidget - Hah!! I don't know if they are exactly the same, but here in the U.S. we have Pork Rinds, also called Pork Skins, and the Mexican section of the grocery stores sometimes sell Chicharrones, in plastic bags. The stores also sometimes carry what are called Crackling, which is often much tougher and harder to chew. 

    @dracorn again - Pickled ham/pork hocks are somewhat less disgusting with the same great pickled taste I think--I could never eat the feet, so I can't be certain. I did try souse meat once--never again.

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