RAM Issue (Not Enough)
I know this might be a little more on the computer tech end than actual Daz advice but I think they are related and thought someone one else might have run into this too. When Rendering last night i got an error message saying that I was too short on Memory. I have 4GBRAM and have been making a lot of pictures in Daz, saving scenes, poses ect...Does anyone know an easy way to lighten the load on my RAM when using Daz or what I can do to clear away some space for it to function?
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Unfortunately 4GB is not much. Shutting other applications, and restarting Daz Studio just before rendering, may help; removing items you don't need in the scene and using lower resolution copies of textures will also help.
I have 16GB of ram in this laptop and run close to using it all sometimes when rendering in DAZ so 4GB is really not a lot. Adding more ram will go a long way to improve not only DAZ but all your other programs assuming you are running a 64 bit Windows or MAC system. If not then 4GB is your limit and you will run out of memory a lot using DAZ. Make sure you are using the maximum pageing settings in Windows for all drives as, although slow, it might help a little.
Arghh, that's what I was afraid of. I have been using Daz for a few months and it only just started happening. When I open the program, it is the only program I have running. There are also about 3x as many characters in this picture as in other ones I have made so maybe I am asking a lot of my measly 4GB
Check your system using the scan tool on the Crucial site.
http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/index
I have used it a lot over the years on various computers and it will give you an idea of what you can get to upgrade and the cost.
If you are running a 32bit system adding memory wont help, as you are already at its limit - so check that before buying more
Until last year I was runing DAZ with 4GB RAM (on a Windows 7 Professional Laptop with an i7, 1.xx GHz and NVIDIA GForce) too and had no problem. It need a lot of time during rendering but I had no Memory error.
Now I have only 8GB RAM (on a Windows 8.1 Laptop wit i7 with 2.4 GHz and NVIDIA Geforce 880M) and DAZ works very well, even while rendering I can use other software or Internet without problems.
You can split up your scene and render sections at a time, then composite then afterwards. There's no reason you have to render everyone at once.
Also look at resizing textures on some of the larger models
It will also depend upon how large your final images are. I tend to render DLSR-sized images (about 20 MP) so as to composite them with images taken from my DSLR. A single character with hair, two articles of clothing and four lights took around 7 GB of RAM during the render. Thankfully these are studio-type photography projects and thus don't have too much complexity.
My system currently has 32 GB RAM, so allows me to easily load up other concurrent software (e.g. Photoshop)
For fun, I did attempt to render 6 characters in a scene (to see how far I could push my system). That quickly ate up all the RAM :)
When my old computer died (rest its soul), I had to buy a new one. My old PC was 7 years old, 32 bit, 4GB Ram, 1GB Video card, AMD processor. DAZ Studio routinely crashed for various reasons besides simply lack of RAM. 32 bit DAZ Studio is twitchy by nature. Also it seemed the more Studio advanced, the more it crashed. My PC originally had 2GB RAM and I added 2 more, but it was unstable and would crash frequently.
This is what I learned:
I had a big budget because I hold on to my machine for a long time. My logic here is that the more power I buy, the longer I can wait before upgrading. [Intel i7 6 core processor, 64 GB Ram, EVGA GeForce GTX 980ti]
Here's a link to the formum:
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/60696/help-me-build-my-new-daz-computer#latest
My longest render was 1.5 hours, with 7 characters, background, uber environment and 1 to .7 ratio with 10,000 resolution (just wanted to push it to see what it could do). The resulting file was 30GB.
I'd be *slightly* careful about saying this. Not that I disagree, with how DAZ can use memory, but you don't want to buy too *much* RAM for your systam. Whether upgrading or building from scratch, *always* check either your user's manual or your motherboard manual. Some systems have a maximum amount of RAM they can take, regardless of your OS being 32 or 64 bit. For instance, mine maxes out at 16 Gb. (Asus board running an I7-860.) I've been looking at pieces and parts for a new system, and some still have that as a max (though not many.)
So, modifying that, it'd be more "Buy as much RAM as either your system's max memory or budget can handle, whichever comes first."
I should clarify:
I was speaking about a new computer rather than an upgrade. Your last statement is the correct advice for both upgrades and new computers. I chose a motherboard which has the capacity for 64GB Ram as well as being able to handle up to four GTX 980ti cards. Be warned, this system wasn't cheap -
If you only have 4GB RAM, then the OS should be 32 really, it will better utilise (or at least not have any overheads due to being 64bit) the memory. The only issue is that when you add more memory, you would need to install a 64bit OS. A 32bit OS can only access about 3.5GB.