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Takes forever to start a new scene

Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,112
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

Recently when I want to start a new scene, it takes forever to clear out the present scene and start a new one. I'm talking half an hour or more.

I clicked the button. Took the dog for a walk. That's at least 15-20 minutes. Came back to shower. Another 10-15 minutes and the editor was still clearing rhe original scene.

If I clear the scene myself by deleting everything, I can have the editor ready for a new scene in just a few minutes. Why does i take DAZ so long to do the same thing?

Is anyine else having this problem and how have to addressed it?

Comments

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,753

    This is normal for me, although not 15 - 20 minutes. I find it's faster to just close DS and then wait a minute and open it again.

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,886

    Select everything in the Scene tab, then hit "Delete" on your keyboard, then you can select new scene or close DS much quicker.

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,112

    That's what I have been doing but it shouldn't be that way. It'a shouldn't be faster to do it yourself than to have the program do it for you.

  • golem841golem841 Posts: 129

    Same for me. Specially since G9.

    It takes around 20 minutes to load a scene...

    Probably my Daz content folder is 2.2 To, with a lot of unused old things, is part of the culprit. I'm too lazy to restart from scratch.

    It's more than 20 years of accumulation and expenses.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,905
    edited October 2023

    It shouldn't be that way, as Drogo mentioned... Ctrl + N is mostly a process of clearing what was stacked in RAM. I strongly suggest you guys do the simple test as below:

    [DS General Release]
    1) Clear the log first. Load a G8.1F or G9 character will full materials (Actor / Character Preset). Check the log and search 'Finished asset load (open)' to see the loading time, then check the time on the last line, and sum them up.
    2) Close the log. Ctrl + N, then check the log - from 'Stop following' to last line 'Scene Cleared' to calculate the clearing time.
    3) Search 'duplicate formula' in the log. If there're multiple searching results... that's the culprit of slow loading time as well as the clearing time to some extent. You have to resolve them first of all... i.e. you have to resolve all issues coming from all Base Figures before resolving 'Scene Issues' if there's any...

    I pasted my log down below. It's a cleanest loading of a default G8.1F Base Figure (after years of 'fixing', no error, no warning msg...). I have appr. 27.6K G8.xF active character morph files ( *.dsf ) in data folder.

    Loading Time (assets + textures): 45 seconds.
    Clearing Time: 36 seconds.
    ( BTW, loading time of G9 is faster than G8, technically, especially with Public Build )

    2023-10-11 07:58:58.800 [INFO] :: Prepare asset load (open): /People/Genesis 8 Female/Genesis 8.1 Basic Female.duf
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.800 [INFO] :: Locking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.800 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw locked.
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.883 [INFO] :: Native format content directories: 3
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.883 [INFO] :: Poser format content directories: 2
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.883 [INFO] :: Other import format content directories: 0
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.883 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (open): /People/Genesis 8 Female/Genesis 8.1 Basic Female.duf
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.945 [INFO] :: *** Scene Cleared ***
    2023-10-11 07:58:58.945 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2023-10-11 07:58:59.060 [INFO] :: Setting textures...
    2023-10-11 07:58:59.150 [INFO] :: Scanning for addons...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.537 [INFO] :: Creating node geometry...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.543 [INFO] :: Creating UV sets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.548 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.659 [INFO] :: Resolving legacy figures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.659 [INFO] :: Preparing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:15.913 [INFO] :: Creating modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:17.556 [INFO] :: Creating property aliases...
    2023-10-11 07:59:17.607 [INFO] :: Creating sum stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.157 [INFO] :: Creating multiply stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.218 [INFO] :: Processing scene data...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.218 [INFO] :: Finalizing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.219 [INFO] :: Finalizing channels...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.219 [INFO] :: Finalizing materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.219 [INFO] :: Sorting property groups...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.225 [INFO] :: Finalizing scene data...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.288 [INFO] :: Begin Loading Character Addons...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.396 [INFO] :: Prepare asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Eyelashes/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.396 [INFO] :: Locking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.396 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw locked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.398 [INFO] :: Native format content directories: 3
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.398 [INFO] :: Poser format content directories: 2
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.399 [INFO] :: Other import format content directories: 0
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.399 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Eyelashes/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.404 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.425 [INFO] :: Setting textures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.465 [INFO] :: Scanning for addons...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.492 [INFO] :: Creating node geometry...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.493 [INFO] :: Creating UV sets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.493 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.497 [INFO] :: Resolving legacy figures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.497 [INFO] :: Preparing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.498 [INFO] :: Creating modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.510 [INFO] :: Creating sum stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.519 [INFO] :: Creating multiply stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.519 [INFO] :: Finalizing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.519 [INFO] :: Sorting property groups...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.520 [INFO] :: Setting up follow targets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.520 [INFO] :: Start following: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.520 [INFO] :: Following started: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.520 [INFO] :: Connect base morphs: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.567 [INFO] :: Applying projection morphs...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.569 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.2s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Eyelashes/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/bs_EyelashesCollapsed.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.570 [INFO] :: Creating morph projection map: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.591 [INFO] :: Base morphs connected: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.591 [INFO] :: Applying projection morphs...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.591 [INFO] :: Creating morph projection map: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.621 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 0m 0.223s - /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Eyelashes/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.661 [INFO] :: Unlocking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.661 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw unlocked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.665 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.2s - /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/PHMMouthRealism_HD_div2.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.665 [INFO] :: Processing morph projection queue: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.666 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.0s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Morphs/Daz 3D/Head/PHMEyelashesLengthUpper.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.668 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.0s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Morphs/Daz 3D/Head/PHMEyelashesLengthLower.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.670 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.0s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Morphs/Daz 3D/Head/PHMEyelashesCurl.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.671 [INFO] :: Morph projection queue processed: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.679 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.1s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Morphs/Daz 3D/Mouth Realism/PHMMouthRealism8_1_HD_div4.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.992 [INFO] :: Prepare asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Tear/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Tear.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.992 [INFO] :: Locking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.992 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw locked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.995 [INFO] :: Native format content directories: 3
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.995 [INFO] :: Poser format content directories: 2
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.995 [INFO] :: Other import format content directories: 0
    2023-10-11 07:59:38.995 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Tear/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Tear.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.001 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.020 [INFO] :: Setting textures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.060 [INFO] :: Scanning for addons...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.077 [INFO] :: Creating node geometry...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.078 [INFO] :: Creating UV sets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.078 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.083 [INFO] :: Resolving legacy figures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.083 [INFO] :: Preparing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.101 [INFO] :: Creating modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.109 [INFO] :: Creating property aliases...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.109 [INFO] :: Creating sum stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.118 [INFO] :: Creating multiply stage formulas...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.118 [INFO] :: Finalizing modifiers...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.118 [INFO] :: Finalizing channels...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.118 [INFO] :: Finalizing materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.118 [INFO] :: Sorting property groups...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.119 [INFO] :: Setting up follow targets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.119 [INFO] :: Start following: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.119 [INFO] :: Following started: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.119 [INFO] :: Connect base morphs: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.148 [INFO] :: Applying projection morphs...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.150 [INFO] :: Loaded morph deltas: 0m 0.1s - /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Tear/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/bs_TearProjectionShape.dsf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.151 [INFO] :: Creating morph projection map: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.168 [INFO] :: Base morphs connected: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.168 [INFO] :: Applying projection morphs...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.168 [INFO] :: Creating morph projection map: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.187 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 0m 0.191s - /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1 Tear/Tools/Script Loads/Genesis 8.1 Female Tear.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.252 [INFO] :: Unlocking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.252 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw unlocked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.465 [INFO] :: Prepare asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Tools/Script Loads/G8_1FAddOnMaps.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.465 [INFO] :: Locking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.465 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw locked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.465 [INFO] :: Processing morph projection queue: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.468 [INFO] :: Morph projection queue processed: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.470 [INFO] :: Native format content directories: 3
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.471 [INFO] :: Poser format content directories: 2
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.471 [INFO] :: Other import format content directories: 0
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.471 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (merge): /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Tools/Script Loads/G8_1FAddOnMaps.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.481 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.507 [INFO] :: Setting textures...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.507 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.512 [INFO] :: Applying animations...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.538 [INFO] :: Setting up follow targets...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.538 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 0m 0.67s - /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female 8_1/Tools/Script Loads/G8_1FAddOnMaps.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.541 [INFO] :: Unlocking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.541 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw unlocked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.542 [INFO] :: Finished Loading Character Addons
    2023-10-11 07:59:39.744 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (open): 0m 40.862s - /People/Genesis 8 Female/Genesis 8.1 Basic Female.duf
    2023-10-11 07:59:42.415 [INFO] :: Unlocking viewport redraw...
    2023-10-11 07:59:42.416 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw unlocked.
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.042 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FBaseHeadMapD_1002.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.292 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8FBaseLegsMapD_1003.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.409 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FBaseEyes01_1007.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.570 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8FBaseArmsMapD_1004.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.701 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FBaseMouthMapD_1006.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:43.861 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FBaseFaceMapD_1001.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:44.070 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FBaseBodyMapD_1003.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:44.184 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1FEyelashesO.jpg
    2023-10-11 07:59:44.238 [INFO] :: Loaded image: G8_1TearOpacity.jpg
    2023-10-11 08:01:40.444 [INFO] :: Stop following: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 08:01:40.444 [INFO] :: Following stopped: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Eyelashes
    2023-10-11 08:01:40.456 [INFO] :: Stop following: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 08:01:40.457 [INFO] :: Following stopped: Genesis 8.1 Female << Genesis 8.1 Female Tear
    2023-10-11 08:02:16.459 [INFO] :: *** Scene Cleared ***


    PS: I have a pretty big scene with 6 HD characters + werables + complex environments / props, etc., its Loading Time / Clearing time : 8 m 26s / 3m 47s. In general, if it takes more than 300 seconds for me to clear a scene, I'll go for closing / killing DS session and relanch it...

    Post edited by crosswind on
  • robograaf2robograaf2 Posts: 40

    It simply happens on complex scenes with lots of characters. It's often quicker to terminate daz and restart it than to have it clear everything. Never had any issues with files corrupting this way either.

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