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I really like a lot of the clothes coming out for G9. But as they are not compatible with G8/G8.1, I haven't purchased much. 

That leads to three questions:

1. Will G9 clothes autofit to G8/8.1 at all?

2. Will there be an update to the autofit feature to help with this (knowing that the skeletons are so different)?

3. Is there a utility yet to help fit new clothes to older figures? I'd happily pay for such a tool.

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,808

    morrisonmp said:

    I really like a lot of the clothes coming out for G9. But as they are not compatible with G8/G8.1, I haven't purchased much. 

    That leads to three questions:

    1. Will G9 clothes autofit to G8/8.1 at all?

    Yes, but you need a G9 clone for that.

    You can create one yourself (see tutorial in this thread), or purchase one

    2. Will there be an update to the autofit feature to help with this (knowing that the skeletons are so different)?

    None is needed.

    3. Is there a utility yet to help fit new clothes to older figures? I'd happilty pay for such a tool.

    Do you mean a batch converter? Because you can already autofit items from Genesis 1 and later to G9.

  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,982

    Just want to chime in, the MMX Clones for All that Leana linked above works great to fit to G8 characters. Totally worth it. 

  • morrisonmpmorrisonmp Posts: 152

    I'll admit, I don't understand clones at all... but that product does seem like what I was hoping for. I just really don't understand the concept of clones at all.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,808

    morrisonmp said:

    I'll admit, I don't understand clones at all... but that product does seem like what I was hoping for. I just really don't understand the concept of clones at all.

    Basically, autofit works in 2 steps:

    1. Adjust the mesh made for figure 1 so that it fits figure 2 default shape ==> that's the step which uses the clone
    2. Rig the resulting adjusted mesh as would be done for new clothing ==> that step uses a rigging template corresponding to the type of item you want to rig (eg a tunic) as a helper to create the rigging of your new mesh.

    Basically, a clone is a special type of morph for your target figure, which more or less gives it the shape of the source figure (I say "more or less" because sometimes it's a bit different in some places in order to get better results when autofitting).
    Autofit considers the clothes for figure 1 as modeled for "figure 2 with the figure 1 clone morph applied", so it will "reverse" the figure 1 clone morph in order to get a mesh which would fit the base figure 2 shape.

    The clones you have for your target figure will populate the "what figure was it originally made for" list in autofit dialog. Each base Genesis figure includes a few clones by default, and you can add more that you purchase or create yourself.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited March 2023

    Leana said:

    morrisonmp said:

    I'll admit, I don't understand clones at all... but that product does seem like what I was hoping for. I just really don't understand the concept of clones at all.

    Basically, autofit works in 2 steps:

    1. Adjust the mesh made for figure 1 so that it fits figure 2 default shape ==> that's the step which uses the clone
    2. Rig the resulting adjusted mesh as would be done for new clothing ==> that step uses a rigging template corresponding to the type of item you want to rig (eg a tunic) as a helper to create the rigging of your new mesh.

    Basically, a clone is a special type of morph for your target figure, which more or less gives it the shape of the source figure (I say "more or less" because sometimes it's a bit different in some places in order to get better results when autofitting).
    Autofit considers the clothes for figure 1 as modeled for "figure 2 with the figure 1 clone morph applied", so it will "reverse" the figure 1 clone morph in order to get a mesh which would fit the base figure 2 shape.

    The clones you have for your target figure will populate the "what figure was it originally made for" list in autofit dialog. Each base Genesis figure includes a few clones by default, and you can add more that you purchase or create yourself.

    Best explanation on clone vs auotfit i ever heard in forum. well done 

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  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    Something that's has not been mentioned, theoretically you properly could use the Transfer Utility refit clothing to older or new generations , I use it for shoes and tops sometimes. 

    There are tons of "how to videos" on YouTube just search Daz Studio Transfer Utility YouTube Search Result

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,483

    I finally bought some G9 clothing today so may need to whip up a clone or do as Ivy does

  • morrisonmpmorrisonmp Posts: 152

    I still don't "get" it. But I don't need to. I'll pick up that product and tinker with it.

    Despite my ignorance, thanks for the help.

     

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