the future and artists, redundancy?

Mada

Its not really a discord used for chatting with other people. The channels are for chatting to the bot and generating images :)

WendyLuvsCatz

I had a go at Midjourney but really don't know what I am doing, that feed moves so fast

anyway I got some handsome elf lords in opulant robes and possibly wasted half my free goes upscaling them so better wait and think harder before I try again

meanwhile I will make Carrara cutouts of them and animate them with Reallusion Crazytalk

$10 a month for under 200 images is not bad though and will think about it ($15 AUD)

 

Cris Palomino

Mada said:

Played around with some Viking inspired portals tonight :)

   

Midjourney is now open-beta so anyone can join the discord, its not invite only anymore 
https://discord.gg/midjourney

I saw these. Really wondeful imagery. 

Cris Palomino

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I had a go at Midjourney but really don't know what I am doing, that feed moves so fast

anyway I got some handsome elf lords in opulant robes and possibly wasted half my free goes upscaling them so better wait and think harder before I try again

meanwhile I will make Carrara cutouts of them and animate them with Reallusion Crazytalk

$10 a month for under 200 images is not bad though and will think about it ($15 AUD)

 

It's $10 for 200 minutes. If I don't upscale much or at all, I can get around 450-500 images. 

WendyLuvsCatz

ah I see and I have waifu2XCaffe to upscale anyway

thanks, am animating some of mine at the moment

 

video

Steve K

These images all look great.  First Headwax tempts me with 3D Printing, now this.  To repeat, so many toys, so little time.  

WendyLuvsCatz

some can get things so wrong

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/het7tmjztVpQSxplMeOV

other times right on point

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/4mQxykoriWBUbpynMXGR

 

 my Midjoirney trial is over, used all my free goes and made a video of it all

 

at this point not doing a subscription as feel I would waste too my time filling my drives with stuff I had little to no creatve imput into.

using 3D assets made by other's is already contraversial to some, this typing prompts and letting an algorithm do it makes that look like Fine art 

 

WendyLuvsCatz

meanwhile in NightCafe

A Bunyip eating a swagman by a billabong 

I am not convinced 

it looks like a platypus shark being eaten by a duck

Bunyip02

I might eat a Barramundi but not a swagman !!!

WendyLuvsCatz

Mada said:

 

 

Prettly pleased with these Butterfly cards too

 

 

I am curious about the prompt you use to get that style, it is sort of Alphonse Mucha like , if I get around to subscibing that is, this is the sort of thing I like

in the meantime I guess I have all those cicada props to render  and could add frames and Sickleyield's vines I bought today

WendyLuvsCatz

this artist found inspiration like Cris

I am just so conflicted by it 

Steve K

WendyLuvsCatz said:

 

 my Midjoirney trial is over, used all my free goes and made a video of it all

Pretty cool, the music and FX make it even spookier.

using 3D assets made by other's is already contraversial to some

I guess from an art creation standpoint that's valid.  But for making a short story video, I have no qualms about using purchased models, same as live action teams using cars, boats, buildings, etc.  I would never get one done any other way.  Happily I have some favorite vendors who create amazing 3D models at very affordable prices.  Keeping an eye on sales, I think my average cost for models is $5-10.  The fun is in the "Directing", 

“When I grow up, I still want to be a director.” – Steven Spielberg

Steve K

WendyLuvsCatz said:

this artist found inspiration like Cris

I am just so conflicted by it 

This is the first time I've heard of Midjourney, a good video explanation.  Thanks.

WendyLuvsCatz

 

using 3D assets made by other's is already contraversial to some

I guess from an art creation standpoint that's valid.  But for making a short story video, I have no qualms about using purchased models, same as live action teams using cars, boats, buildings, etc.  I would never get one done any other way.  Happily I have some favorite vendors who create amazing 3D models at very affordable prices.  Keeping an eye on sales, I think my average cost for models is $5-10.  The fun is in the "Directing", 

“When I grow up, I still want to be a director.” – Steven Spielberg

oh I too have no issues with using 3D assets and also as you know make videos, they are my props and actors, 3D scenes are worlds I explore with my CGI camera as a virtual photographer 

this ai is more akin to ready to render scenes you click and load but with infinite possibilities than what we do

Mada

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I am curious about the prompt you use to get that style, it is sort of Alphonse Mucha like , if I get around to subscibing that is, this is the sort of thing I like

in the meantime I guess I have all those cicada props to render  and could add frames and Sickleyield's vines I bought today

I used the following prompts : butterfly, magical, symmetrical, symmetry, flower bouquet, bright green vines, detailed intricate silver ink illustration, tarot card with ornate border frame, dark atmosphere, complementing colors, frame, Peter Mohrbacher, Takayuki Takeya, roger dean
and then refined with variations until I got what I wanted

WendyLuvsCatz

Mada said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I am curious about the prompt you use to get that style, it is sort of Alphonse Mucha like , if I get around to subscibing that is, this is the sort of thing I like

in the meantime I guess I have all those cicada props to render  and could add frames and Sickleyield's vines I bought today

I used the following prompts : butterfly, magical, symmetrical, symmetry, flower bouquet, bright green vines, detailed intricate silver ink illustration, tarot card with ornate border frame, dark atmosphere, complementing colors, frame, Peter Mohrbacher, Takayuki Takeya, roger dean
and then refined with variations until I got what I wanted

 

I copy pasted that into Nightcafe
https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/C06zdPxoI5A2maotB1cN

certainly gets a different result 

WendyLuvsCatz

 

this is what I got yesterday before I knew your prompt which shows it really is the roll of the dice 

you can  see mine in the Wombo ones

Mada

that, plus refining the variations and adjusting the keywords until you get the look you want :)

Steve K

WendyLuvsCatz said:

oh I too have no issues with using 3D assets and also as you know make videos, they are my props and actors, 3D scenes are worlds I explore with my CGI camera as a virtual photographer 

Yes, well said.  Some elaborate models are amazingly complex and take a lot of exploration to discover the best spots for scenes.  Like a huge seven deck yacht which I got on sale for ~$20:

Steve K

Just to clarify the complexity of the Yacht above, see atached layout drawing.

 

WendyLuvsCatz

Damn I see Midjourney subscription is credit card only not paypal, I prefer not to use my card online

Paypal comes out of my limited funds debit card bank account not the one my pay goes into so I have some control over how much I lose should something get compromised

I won't even use a credit card at DAZ

 

crappy carrara render

Deep Dream Generator

WendyLuvsCatz

when I see people posting stuff like this

honesty I look at my 3D renders and weep

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Facebook image  link now dead

Bunyip02

Wendy, if we compare our artwork with others than we run the risk of why bother ?
It's the enjoyment we get from fulfilling our own creative offerings with our own skill/abilities and the tools we use to get the end result that we should all focus on.

WendyLuvsCatz

Bunyip02 said:

Wendy, if we compare our artwork with others than we run the risk of why bother ?
It's the enjoyment we get from fulfilling our own creative offerings with our own skill/abilities and the tools we use to get the end result that we should all focus on.

I can live with when it's another human though  

Steve K

WendyLuvsCatz said:

when I see people posting stuff like this

honesty I look at my 3D renders and weep

Indeed, very impressive.  I've had the same reaction to some environmental renders, buy fortunately one vendor sells elaborate project files (like attached) for ~$12 list, on sale for less.  

 

Bunyip02

WendyLuvsCatz said:

Bunyip02 said:

Wendy, if we compare our artwork with others than we run the risk of why bother ?
It's the enjoyment we get from fulfilling our own creative offerings with our own skill/abilities and the tools we use to get the end result that we should all focus on.

I can live with when it's another human though  

AI is a program that looks at the sum of all knowledge, work, styles, types on the internet/programmed into it and comes up with a result once you hit the enter button. Result is who comes up with the words-smith abilities has a better chance of outputting something artsy.

WendyLuvsCatz

this is so addictive 

Steve K

WendyLuvsCatz said:

 

this is so addictive 

And impressive.

WendyLuvsCatz

Mada said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I am curious about the prompt you use to get that style, it is sort of Alphonse Mucha like , if I get around to subscibing that is, this is the sort of thing I like

in the meantime I guess I have all those cicada props to render  and could add frames and Sickleyield's vines I bought today

I used the following prompts : butterfly, magical, symmetrical, symmetry, flower bouquet, bright green vines, detailed intricate silver ink illustration, tarot card with ornate border frame, dark atmosphere, complementing colors, frame, Peter Mohrbacher, Takayuki Takeya, roger dean
and then refined with variations until I got what I wanted

I am guessing that took a lot of variations 

I just was curious so tossed it in the prompt  yes caved and bought some extra metered time 

WendyLuvsCatz

OMG Dall-E 2

I haz make art button