Making the hole in a torus resizable.
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I was watching a particular live streaming video recently about how to do some advanced scene-building stuff in Daz Studio, and at one point in the video, the guy made a torus, and then from one of the drop-down menus added a feature onto the torus, such that he could now spin a dial and the hole in the torus could be shrunk or enlarged, without it altering any of the other aspects of the torus, such as how thick it was or where the outside edges were or how the outside and inside edges were rounded. Basically it turned the torus hole into something you could open and close like a sphincter, and would probably make for a really neat-o-keen sci-fi door.
I SHOULD have immediately noted down on a 3x5 card what drop down menu and what sub-doohicky in there created this, but I figured It would be obvious to me what feature it was when I later went back to look for it, now that I knew that the feature existed... but now I have no idea where it was or what it was called, I just know that when it was created, it added a named sub-thingy that appeared indented on the next line under the torus in the Scene tab. I'm guessing it's something in the Edit dropdown, perhaps Edit > Object > Something something, but its clearly eluding me.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
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So what was it doing, squising the inside part of the torus? Somethign has to give. Anyway, I would think a dForm would do the job - place the base in the middle of the hole, the field also centred and extending into the actual ring, possibly use the dForm pane to adjust the spline (to cotrnol how strong the effect was as you go from centre of the filed to the edge) and then adjust the two scales that govern the hole - then spawn a morph (also on the dForm pane).
It was making the hole itself smaller-around, so that the part of the torus between that and the edges became like a flat disk.
I'm not entirely sure it's what you mean, but wouldn't just scaling it along the axis that runs through the hol do that - almost zero would make it almost flat?
I know plenty of ways you could do this but none would use the dropdown menu
not knowing what video (or possibly having access to it as I am not DAZ+) I have no idea what they did
what I myself would do is send it to Hexagon, select and resize the inner ring then send it back as a morph
Maybe you can be interested by this site with a free morphing torus (poser)
https://web.archive.org/web/20191124201436/http://www.morphography.uk.vu/dlmagic.html
It was in that Daz3D-sponsored live video that was linked in the orange banner for a bunch of us a week or two ago. The one about making sprinkled donuts in a donut box.
edit: It was the Jay Versluis video from the 14th. Something like 2 1/2 or 3 hours long. I guess I need to find a way to PM him.
edit 2: PMed him.
edit 3: The actual video is below. I'm not gonna sit through the whole thing again just to rediscover that one tip, though. :D
Seriously? Jay tells you exactly what he's using, he shows you where to find it in the menu, you can read the text on the screen and he even pauses to give you time for that.
Why do you need us to tell you that he adds a push modifier to the torus?
Also, that doesn't resize only the hole, as you said in your post, it changes the minor diameter of the object, the thickness of the torus. Giving incomplete or wrongful information makes it harder for us to help you.
Hi all! You may be referring to the Push Modifier like Ascania said (Edit - Object - Add Push Modifier). It pushes the normals outwards, which in turn makes the hole smaller and changes the shape. Or did you mean the hole in the icing? That was done with Hexagon like Wendy suggested (right-click to create a lasso selection around the inner vertices, then scale up).
There are chapter points in the description to help find topics inside the stream. Let me know if this helps.
Happy baking!
It had to have been the push modifier, since I wasn't as interested in the icing. I have a torus I'm using in something, where the torus is more or less an opening into something else, but I couldn't close the hole... and until I saw you resize the actual hole in the donut, I had assumed I was going to have to try to make another torus with a smaller hole, attach it in the same place and hide it, then hide the original one and unhide the other when I needed to close the opening... but then couldn't figure out what settings to change when making the new torus in order to get a smaller hole while leaving the rest of the torus the same size... 0o Then I saw you add a function onto the torus and dial the hole smaller, and my jaw dropped. "Wait, you can DO THAT?!?"
And yeah, I don't think I noticed any other physical changes happening in the torus/donut from that... I was so gobsmackered by seeing the hole change bunches that all I really saw was the hole changing size.
That, and memory plays tricks on you. Well, on me. o0
Anyway, thank you all for the help. I'd play with this later.
Okay, I made a torus, and went to Edit > Object > ...and didn't see Add Push Modifier there. I drilled down into Edit > Object > Geometry and found Add Push Modifier there... but it's not doing what I know I saw in the video.
It did not add another indented line underneath Torus in the Scene pane, like a bone or an attachment would show as.
Every dial change I make, the torus gets taller/ticker or shorter/thinner (depending which direction I slide the dial), but the hole doesn't seem to change much if any. I mean, the hole size perhaps changes a LITTLE bit, but only as much as needed to occomodate the torus getting taller/thicker. I then clicked the gear on the Push Modifier and tried changing the setttings in there around, but no matter what I do, the torus gets thicker/taller, and the hole doesn't change noticibly in size. In the video, I distinctly remember the torus remaining the same thickness and width, and ONLY the hole changing in size, but nothing I do in this is changing the hole size particularly. Clearly I'm missing a step here somewhere. 0o
edit: I guess I'm going to have to go find it in the video again. Do you remember about what part of the video this was in? (edit2) Hmmm... you said chapter stops. Yeah, I'll have to go look at those later.
Jay is using a WAY SMALLER torus than you are.
You're "going to have to go find it in the video again"? What are you on about? YOU LINKED IT in your post five posts above this one! All you have to do to "find it" is SCROLL UP.
The video is more than 2 hours long, and the particular thing I was talking about is something that took up maybe a minute or two at most in all that, and which came up in passing maybe an hour or two in. What I meant was, I would have to launch into the video again, and then poke and prod the various chapter-stops in there with a stick until I found the bit I'm looking for.... unless it's really obvious which one of the chapter-stops its at, mind you. I'll have to do that poke-around-inside-the-video thing later, because I'm in the middle of a buncha other stuff right now.
Or you could just READ the chaper titles. I wonder whatever Jay was thinking when he named a chapter "Creating Donut Dough with Push Modifier".
And I don't know about you, but for me it takes mere seconds to scrub along the timeline and find what looks like the torus creation in the thumbnail.
Well, when I was posting that message, I wasn't in a situation where I could readily have the video in front of me. But I asked because I wasn't even sure if it would be readily apparent which part of the video it was in, even with the named chapter stops. Annnnndddd... it turns out it isn't. Obvious, that is. It wasn't in the push-modifier chapter-stop... that was the first one I checked, It wasn't in the one about shaping the donut with mesh grabber, either. I'm guessing it'll turn out to be at the very, very end, then. Well, just before the outro chapter-stop, anyway.
(Sits through the whole of the two make-the-box sections again, stays till the end...) Wait, it wasn't in the last bit, either. 0o
Bah, was it in another video altogether? 0O
I distinctly remember it being in one of these live Daz-tutorial videos, recently, because I commented in the live-text-chat about how happy I was that one could resize the hole, but that comment isn't in there at all. Maybe it was the previous one of these live tutorial vids. o0 Or somebody else's live Daz vid.
Well, I've scrolled back through my entire Youtube viewed-videos history of the last 3 or 4 months... and I don't even see the other Daz live-stream videos listed there that I watched live... so I can't go back to those and try poking around in there...
Anyway, in the video from a week ago, it turns out the chapter-stop Creating Donut Dough With a Push Modifier had mostly to do with making the donut look like it would have before going into the batter (i.e. thin and scrawny) and then plumping it back up bigger, and was a completely different thing from the change in appearance I remember seeing. I am at a loss here. I'm guessing it must have been in whatever Daz 3D live video came out maybe a month ago, but apparently I can't get to that one after the fact. I don't think it was the one about animating in Daz with Mixamo, which is the previous video listed over here. I don't think it was the NFP Avatars one from 2 months ago, either.
So, what other done-purely-from-inside-Daz means are there to make the hole in the torus smaller while keeping all the other dimensions the same? Someone mentioned maybe adding a dFormer, but I don't think that was the technique I saw, either. That said, I'm not really sure how to adjust a dFormer that way, so if I was going to try that means, I'd need a tutorial on it or something.
Why is this is all so offensive to you?
I have no idea why you would consider asking someone to explain the reasoning behind their decisionmaking as offensive. Is it really that hard to fathom that people might try to understand how questioners seem to miss what seems so obvious, keep forgetting things they did only moments before or pass by what's right in front of them?
Since this thread seems to be going nowehere it is being closed.