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I give up. Where did Install Manager install Michael 4 3D Model Pro Suite?

WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
edited April 2015 in New Users

I just purchased Michael 4 3D Model Pro Suite and used DAZ Install manager (for the first time) to install this product. Unfortunately, when I open DAZ 4.7 Pro Edition and look for the new content, nowhere does the M4 Base appear. Where is it?

Searches for M4, M4 Base, etc., yield nothing--nothing happens when I enter those search terms.

Browsing through My Library I can find various M4-related products that have been installed, but no M4 Base for me to get started with. Where is the base figure? And why is it so hard to find?

BTW, Install Manager confirms that all the Michael 4 3D Model Pro Suite has been downloaded and installed, but again the question is where?

Thanks.

Post edited by WilburPost on

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    CGVistas said:
    I just purchased Michael 4 3D Model Pro Suite and used DAZ Install manager (for the first time) to install this product. Unfortunately, when I open DAZ 4.7 Pro Edition and look for the new content, nowhere does the M4 Base appear. Where is it?

    Searches for M4, M4 Base, etc., yield nothing--nothing happens when I enter those search terms.

    Browsing through My Library I can find various M4-related products that have been installed, but no M4 Base for me to get started with. Where is the base figure? And why is it so hard to find?

    BTW, Install Manager confirms that all the Michael 4 3D Model Pro Suite has been downloaded and installed, but again the question is where?

    Thanks.

    Look in Content Library (not Smart Content), under Poser Formats...

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/7877/start

    Michael 4 Base (Core)

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following Poser Libraries:
    Figures: “DAZ People”
    Materials: “DAZ's Michael 4:MATerials SMPL-Res”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:General Poses”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:MATerials SMPL-Res”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:1_Eyebrows”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:2_Eyes”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:3_Nose”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:4_Cheeks”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:5_Lips”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:6_Mouth”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:7_Tongue”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:8_Jaw”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:9_Visemes”

    You can find new icons for this product in the following DAZ Studio Categories:
    “Figures:People:Male:Real World”
    “Materials:Masculine:Michael 4 Base:Skin”
    “Poses:By Function:Jumping”
    “Poses:By Function:Kneeling”
    “Poses:By Function:Running”
    “Poses:By Function:Sitting”
    “Poses:By Function:Standing”
    “Poses:By Region:Full Body”
    “Poses:By Region:Partial Body:Torso”
    “Poses:Other:Reset”
    “Shaping:Inject”
    “Shaping:Remove”

    Michael 4 Base StudioCF

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following DAZ Studio Folders:
    “People:Michael 4:Materials:M4 Sample-Res”

    Michael 4 Base Puppeteer

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following DAZ Studio Folders:
    “People:Michael 4:Puppeteer Presets”

  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited December 1969

    Thanks for the reply. M4 isn't in Poser content, but after some research I found that M4 Base had been installed in:

    C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library

    I added that folder to DAZ Studio, and then browse to what I think is M4 base, but when I try to open it I get this error:

    ---------------------------
    PowerLoader : Critical Error
    ---------------------------
    This script is not intended to be run standalone. It is intended
    to be run as a result of loading an ExP enabled "Michael 4"
    based figure from the Content tab. Rename this file to match
    the name of the intended .cr2 to continue.
    ---------------------------
    &OK;
    ---------------------------

    What does that mean? See the attached screen shot for more info.

    Thanks.

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  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited April 2015

    fixmypcmike said:
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/7877/start

    Michael 4 Base (Core)

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following Poser Libraries:
    Figures: “DAZ People”
    Materials: “DAZ's Michael 4:MATerials SMPL-Res”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:General Poses”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:MATerials SMPL-Res”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:1_Eyebrows”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:2_Eyes”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:3_Nose”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:4_Cheeks”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:5_Lips”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:6_Mouth”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:7_Tongue”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:8_Jaw”
    Pose: “DAZ's Michael 4:Morph Injections:Base:9_Visemes”

    You can find new icons for this product in the following DAZ Studio Categories:
    “Figures:People:Male:Real World”
    “Materials:Masculine:Michael 4 Base:Skin”
    “Poses:By Function:Jumping”
    “Poses:By Function:Kneeling”
    “Poses:By Function:Running”
    “Poses:By Function:Sitting”
    “Poses:By Function:Standing”
    “Poses:By Region:Full Body”
    “Poses:By Region:Partial Body:Torso”
    “Poses:Other:Reset”
    “Shaping:Inject”
    “Shaping:Remove”

    Michael 4 Base StudioCF

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following DAZ Studio Folders:
    “People:Michael 4:Materials:M4 Sample-Res”

    Michael 4 Base Puppeteer

    You can find new icons for loading this product in the following DAZ Studio Folders:
    “People:Michael 4:Puppeteer Presets”


    Thanks for the post fixmypcmike, but it doesn't appear to have any bearing on my setup. Can you take a look at the screenshot from my previous post and tell me what's wrong? And take a look at the screenshot attached to this post. I'm mystified.

    Thanks.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    You should not have the folder named "Runtime" listed as a content folder -- you want the path to stop at the folder CONTAINING runtime, in both "DAZ Studio Formats" and "Poser Formats".

  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited April 2015

    fixmypcmike said:
    You should not have the folder named "Runtime" listed as a content folder -- you want the path to stop at the folder CONTAINING runtime, in both "DAZ Studio Formats" and "Poser Formats".

    Can you just tell me how to browse to M4 Base, i.e., load the M4 Base figure? I'll then take it from there.
    Post edited by WilburPost on
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    Content Library > Poser Formats > My DAZ 3D Library > Figures > DAZ People

  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited April 2015

    fixmypcmike said:
    Content Library > Poser Formats > My DAZ 3D Library > Figures > DAZ People

    Thank you fixmypcmike. Unfortunately, I have no "Figures" or "DAZ People" subfolders in my "My DAZ 3D Library." (See attached screenshot).

    Suggestions?

    Thanks.

    M4_Error_3.jpg
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    Post edited by WilburPost on
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    CGVistas said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Content Library > Poser Formats > My DAZ 3D Library > Figures > DAZ People

    Thank you fixmypcmike. Unfortunately, I have no "Figures" or "DAZ People" subfolders in my "My DAZ 3D Library." (See attached screenshot).

    Suggestions?

    Thanks.

    You're in "DAZ Studio Formats", you need to look in "Poser Formats".

  • R25SR25S Posts: 595
    edited December 1969

    take a look in Smart Content Tab, Figures. M4 should be there

  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    CGVistas said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Content Library > Poser Formats > My DAZ 3D Library > Figures > DAZ People

    Thank you fixmypcmike. Unfortunately, I have no "Figures" or "DAZ People" subfolders in my "My DAZ 3D Library." (See attached screenshot).

    Suggestions?

    Thanks.

    You're in "DAZ Studio Formats", you need to look in "Poser Formats".
    SUCCESS!! Thank you fixmypcmike. :-)

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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914
    edited December 1969

    With anything you purchase from the store and have installed using DIM, you can also click on "Products" in the content library and browse by first letter of the product name.

  • WilburPostWilburPost Posts: 43
    edited December 1969

    kaotkbliss said:
    With anything you purchase from the store and have installed using DIM, you can also click on "Products" in the content library and browse by first letter of the product name.

    I tried that initially and while the new M4 products showed up, nothing happened when I clicked on them, like it was just an FYI sort thing. Maybe I missed a step.
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    CGVistas said:
    kaotkbliss said:
    With anything you purchase from the store and have installed using DIM, you can also click on "Products" in the content library and browse by first letter of the product name.

    I tried that initially and while the new M4 products showed up, nothing happened when I clicked on them, like it was just an FYI sort thing. Maybe I missed a step.

    It may be that what you clicked on was a pose or texture, which won't do anything if M4 hasn't been loaded yet. I prefer to have the file extensions visible -- Poser format objects have file extensions of .cr2, .hr2, or .pp2; Poser extensions .pz2, .hd2, .fc2 won't do anything if the object isn't already loaded and selected.

  • TheCastellanTheCastellan Posts: 710

    I still don't understand ANY of this. @_@

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548
    TheCastellan said:

    I still don't understand ANY of this. @_@

    If it makes you feel better most of us didn't understand any of it at first either.  Don't hesitate to ask questions and read any and all of the threads in the new user portions. Eventually it will all click. And come over and join the new user contest thread, you will pick things up twice as fast if you join in.  or just read along.

  • Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548

    DIM is tricky. I realized some of my products weren't working because it was installing to a *similar* directory to my desired content directory, specifically C:\Users\Public\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My DAZ 3D Library\ instead of where all my old content was: C:\Users\Tako Yakida\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\. It got to the point where sometimes props I created on my own would load their textures, and sometimes not. This was fixed when I merged both directories and corrected where DIM was installing. See screenshot below on how to change this.

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  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 2015

    DIM is not doing anything that you the end user aren't allowing it to do.  If you don't open up the preferences and change the default install locations that isn't DIM's or DAZ Studio's fault.  I like that DIM is just a simple download and install manager that doesn't try to think for itself.

    Post edited by jestmart on
  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    Tako Yakida said:

    DIM is tricky. I realized some of my products weren't working because it was installing to a *similar* directory to my desired content directory,

    It's not really DIM that's tricky, it's DAZ — they changed the default installation folder DIM uses for D|S content, then didn't really make it plain what that meant. Adding to the fun, DIM and D|S don't talk to each other about setting content locations, so you must check before you start installing content that all the folder location settings in both programs agree with each other.

    One of the more common glitches is DIM installing content to its default location, and D|S looking for content in its default location. Both programs are working as designed, there's just this little hiccup where they ignore each other.

  • TheCastellanTheCastellan Posts: 710

    Guys, despite M4 now working right here......COULD one still use Hiro4?  I ask because I really want to to get him, but I'm too scared now that I'm going to make a voodo doll of whomever is coding these installation locations and then jam a pile of needles in its behind :P

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,933
    TheCastellan said:

    Guys, despite M4 now working right here......COULD one still use Hiro4?  I ask because I really want to to get him, but I'm too scared now that I'm going to make a voodo doll of whomever is coding these installation locations and then jam a pile of needles in its behind :P

    Please don't keep spreading your questions over multiple threads - it just leads to people wasting their time going over questions and suggestions that have already been covered.

  • Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548
    jestmart said:

    DIM is not doing anything that you the end user aren't allowing it to do.  If you don't open up the preferences and change the default install locations that isn't DIM's or DAZ Studio's fault.  I like that DIM is just a simple download and install manager that doesn't try to think for itself.

    Pardon me. What you say is correct. I meant tricky as in "you have to know what you're doing with it", not in the sense of "sneaky". Pleave forgive my Engrish :)

  • JohannaJohanna Posts: 119
    edited December 2015

    Maybe a bit of a mind expanding drug can help us understand the messy chaos system better ...

     

    ... and never give up :-D

     

    Post edited by Johanna on
  • bjkbjk Posts: 3

    Couple of years ago I worked with Male and Female Anatomy Bundle and Michael4 and Vicoria4. After installing again I can load all the anatomy stuff (Pose Formats - Daz Connect - Figures - DazAnatomy/DazSkeleton) but I can't find the actors of Michael/Victoria Base. Used Install Manager.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,933

    Daz Connect should not be used for ExP figures like Michael 4. Items installed with DIM will be under Poser Formats>My Daz 3D Library>Figure>DAZ People (for Michael 4)

  • bjkbjk Posts: 3

    But under Poser Formats there is only Daz Connect and an empty map My Library

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,933

    Ah, then you need to add the My Daz 3d Library - assuming that si where DIM is installing. Right-click on the Poser Formats heading, then select Add Runtiem Directory from the menu. Browse to and select the My Daz 3D Library folder in your Public Documents folder. You should then be able to find the missing items.

  • bjkbjk Posts: 3

    Yes, thank you Richard!

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