What Computer Features Help run DAZ4.7; or What Does DAZ Eat?
super_joel
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I'm looking at a newer PC and was wondering what features I should keep an eye on with regard to improving performance in DAZ 4.7? (such as render time, and such)
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# of processor cores, speed of processor, and RAM RAM RAM.
Yep, and to expand on that:
Rendering in 3Delight uses the CPU.
The preview window uses RAM. The more polygons etc. are in the scene, the more RAM it uses.
If you render by export to an unbiased engine, such as Luxrender (via Reality or Luxus) or Octane (via the plugins sold for it), they usually use the GPU (the graphics cards).
Should I look at the RAM for a GPU or the total unit? Which has more benefit?
For rendering in which engine?
I guess 3Delight; is that the default for DAZ4.7?
Yes, it is, but 3Delight doesn't care much about the GPU. Any basic graphics card can run your monitor well enough to handle the preview; mostly it's going to use your system RAM loading the objects in the scene, not the VRAM on the graphics card. My good old GTX 560 lasted me for I think two or three years before I decided to upgrade the system in general.
You pretty much only need an expensive graphics card for unbiased render engines.
I am quite happy still to use 3Delight. And if I decide to upgrade or change that I guess a videocard is easier to replace then the whole CPU.
Thanks, both of you guys for answering so quickly. :)
To amplify a bit; basic DAZ Studio/3Delight - cpu cores and threads. Fast cpu cores. And memory; if buying new, try to do 16 GB or more.
The plug-in render engines (octane, LuxRender by way of Reality or Luxus) are moving into gpu (graphics card) rendering - so make sure that the new system has at least one PCIE-3 x 16 slot available with an empty slot below it - most high-end graphics cards take two slots, with the card plugging into the top one and overlapping the lower. Also, go for a heavy-duty power supply. This gives you some options in the future.
The one i'm looking at in my budget range has a AMD Radeon R7-250 sitting in a PCIe x16 slot. (Grafx Card)
only 8GB RAM and AMD A10-7850K (4.1GHz)/quad-core processor.
The other one has NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 but I cannot tell what kind of slot it is on. Same RAM (8GB) with a processor Core i5 4460 (3.2GHz)/quad core.
So one has better Graphics card, the other has a faster processor.
From what I gather here the processor has more importance, right?
If you google both processor models you're considering you can see their benchmarks, it's the first result that comes up.
Cool. now I picked out the one I want.
To put DAZ on my newer computer can I just transfer all the files under "My Documents>DAZ Studio" or do I need to install DAZ again from ... Product Library? Or combination of the both, install DAZ and then transfer the My Library files via external source.
You will need to install Daz Studio and the Content Manager fresh on the new machine, but the library with the content can be freely moved.
You will need to install Daz Studio and the Content Manager fresh on the new machine, but the library with the content can be freely moved.
After installing DIM and before starting it - copy over C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\DAZ 3D\InstallManager - this is where DIM keeps track of installed files and downloaded thumbnails, among other things.
If you use DIM to install Studio you'll want to do things in this order:
1) install DIM
2) Copy the directory above
3) Un-install Studio (DIM will think it is installed) and any plugins
4) Re-install Studio and the plugins
IIRC, that should take care of it.
After installing DIM and before starting it - copy over C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\DAZ 3D\InstallManager - this is where DIM keeps track of installed files and downloaded thumbnails, among other things.
If you use DIM to install Studio you'll want to do things in this order:
1) install DIM
2) Copy the directory above
3) Un-install Studio (DIM will think it is installed) and any plugins
4) Re-install Studio and the plugins
IIRC, that should take care of it.
Have not installed the old library yet but I did steps 1 through 4 outlined above. Now, before I went to transfer everything I booted up DAZ just to see if that much was done a-okay. It didn't have Genesis. I use 4.7 and I thought it already had Genesis in it. Would that model be in my old library files from User>me>My Doc>Daz? (transferring that library now.)
After installing DIM and before starting it - copy over C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\DAZ 3D\InstallManager - this is where DIM keeps track of installed files and downloaded thumbnails, among other things.
If you use DIM to install Studio you'll want to do things in this order:
1) install DIM
2) Copy the directory above
3) Un-install Studio (DIM will think it is installed) and any plugins
4) Re-install Studio and the plugins
IIRC, that should take care of it.
Have not installed the old library yet but I did steps 1 through 4 outlined above. Now, before I went to transfer everything I booted up DAZ just to see if that much was done a-okay. It didn't have Genesis. I use 4.7 and I thought it already had Genesis in it. Would that model be in my old library files from User>me>My Doc>Daz? (transferring that library now.)
Correct. Genesis was stripped out of the DAZ Studio install back around 4.5 or so - there is now a Genesis Starter Essentials and a Starter Essentials each for G2M and G2f = as well as a Default lights and shaders set. Those should all be in your library.
Oh, see what through me off was that the 4.7 install said it was a 'bundle' that included those essentials so I thought they would appear there in daz once it was started back up.
If you look it up in your Product Library it will show all the parts of the bundle - but each is a separate download. Also, if you look, you'll see that the complete DAZ Studio + bundled items goes just over 2 GB; if this were all one big package people would need to download more than 2 GB any time any component got updated.
Did not think of that. >.<<br /> Had to take the computer back to the store and exchange it anyway. power supply was bad from the go.
*sigh* one a them days.