The models I like are Genesis 3. Does that mean they won't work?
mortonmccastle
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The models I want are for Genesis 3. Does that mean they are not compatible with the current version of Daz Studio?
I am very new to Daz 3D. I signed up yesterday. I used to spend a lot of time on DeviantArt and I noticed that a lot of people were using the same models, and those people were using the same program - Daz3D.
I understand that the latest Genesis is Genesis 8.1, and the skip from G3 to G8 was to be consistent with the Victoria and Michael models. Are models called meshes?
I heard that older Genesis (like 2 and 3) clothes are compatible with newer Genesis (8 and 8.1) but meshes are not.
Is Genesis 8.1 the current version of Daz Studio? If so, then it sounds like G3 models/meshes will not work.
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All versions of Genesis still work - each has its own Starter Essentials, which you will need to get the base figure available so that the character can be used.
Unless stated otherwise by the artist who you're buying from. Some may require you have Victoria 7, Olympia 7 or Monique 7 installed for example.
Otherwise, just look at them as DLCs for a game. It's all good to go :)
A mesh is a collection of vertices (points in space) that define a 3D model, so they're essentially the same thing.
All five Genesis generations are available in Daz 4.15 and can be loaded no problem. However, the products you buy for each generation typically aren't compatible (aside from Genesis 8 and 8.1, which have the same underlying mesh). There are ways to attempt fitting Genesis clothes on Genesis 8 and vice versa, but they're not guaranteed to produce good results.
Each generation is an improvement over the last, so typically you want to invest in the latest one, but pretty much all Genesis 3 products are still available in the store. Just be warned, it's much harder to get good facial expressions with G3 due to its limitations. G8 improved on the facial controls, and 8.1 improved them even more.
One thing you can do is buy a character converter, which will convert the G3 figures you buy into G8 figures.
https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-3-male-to-genesis-8-male
https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-3-female-to-genesis-8-female
Since you are so new, I strongly suggest watching some video's about the models and the characters created for them so you know what they are and how to use them. You will also find video's on fitting clothes, included fitting clothes made for another model.
Buying converters for your preferred model can eventually empty your bank account, so it's best to know what these converters are and how to use them. Again there are video's about this.
My last suggestion is to get the head and body morphs, as many characters created will require these, that is why Parallax mentioned Olympia and Victoria, those are morphs, each model has their own version of these. Each model has their own set of head and body morphs.
When you look in the store and see a character you like, read the information, as morphs made for G8 will not work on other Genesis models without the use of a converter, same goes with clothes and skin textures.
This person has some very good beginner video's you might want to check out.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ParmyBaddhan/videos
To answer your original question: Genesis 3 (and, indeed, all the older Genises) work fine on the current version of Studio. I'm still mostly using G3F, and don't have any problems with her.
That said, if the characters you like are mostly G3Fs, you have two possible approaches to take:
1: Become a G3F User
This is the most obvious way..Get the G3Fs you like, get G3F clothes for them to wear, G3F hairstyles for them to grow and so forth. The plus side to this is that sale prices on G3F are often more generous, because it's an older product. The minus side is that pretty much nobody is producing new content for G3F, so you're stuck with whatever was produced during her relatively short lifespan. There are products and techniques out there that will convert G8 content to G3 (I would particularly draw your attention to this post by Sickleyield) but it's all quite fiddly for the beginner.
2: Become a G8F User
An alternative approach is to get the G3Fs you like, convert them into G8Fs, and then use them just like native G8F figures. The easiest way to do that is probably to buy this product.(currently on sale at 50% off - you never need to buy anything here for less than 50% off, unless you're in a tearing hurry). Once you've got everybody into G8 mode, you'll have access to all the latest content for them (you'll have to convert anyhting made for older models).
I'm still working with Genesis (the original 1st gen) at the time of writing so... don't worry about age. Just because something is older doesn't mean it no longer works. DS provides support for all generations of Genesis.
However... do make sure that any props or clothing is made for Genesis 3. Clothing for Genesis 1,2 and 3 will (often) work on Genesis 8 but clothing made for Genesis 8 is highly unlikely to work on older generations. Of course there are no guarantees either way.
Daz Studio is an excellent program for building up 3D renders, and it provides support for just about everything, including Poser material (Poser is another 3D program).
Basically every 3D figure, whether it's a Genesis based figure or a prop such as a barrel, wall or a lamp is a mesh. A mesh is a 3D figure that's made up from polygones, which are basically the smallest part of a 3D model. This may be a good read / starting point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon_mesh
That information is somewhat incorrect. Clothes are also meshes.
As to Genesis: 8.1 is the latest version of Genesis but that doesn't mean anything. At best it means most artists will be focusing their attention to this because it's "new and hot" yet that only means so much. Like I said above I still use Genesis and Genesis 2 based figures on a frequent basis myself. Nothing wrong with that and it's stil fully supported.