Thumbnail size in the Install Manager
Nester751
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Quick dumb question. So the first thing I do is download the thumbnails before installing the product. What I don't understand is that the size of individiual thumbnails shown by the installer seem to be different with some moderate useful sizes and then some giant size that block most of the screen. Is there a way to adjust these not to be magnified to that extreme? I guess I could just download the products and then the thumbnails.
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This has been a problem for at least six months, with no progress. Some, as you say, have a nice moderately-sized thumbnail, but others just use the main promo at 1000x1300 px, or larger. Just resize them with a third-party graphics editing program, something that can do them in one batch.
This is essentially a site issue, since the store software change the image supplied when DIM asks for a thumbnail have frequently been oversized - though newer products do now seem to be getting more sensible images.
Of a little over 6000 products in my IM, 309 are oversized (IE: 5% of my products)
I guess the DAZ catalogue must be over 80,000 products, so that's 4000+ oversized thumbnails
For some, over-sized thumbnails might not be a problem
But because the useful information about the product is in the top r/h corner it is off the top of my screen
Better to put the product info halfway down the thumbnail, where it should be seen whatever the thumbnail size
Better still, maybe DAZ could hire a guy to fix the oversized thumbnails, and while he is at the job maybe make some of those tiny thumbnails larger
Whilst each of us consumers could, individually, correct every erroneous thumbnail, imagine every DAZ customer correcting them and how many 10s of 1000's of man/woman hours would be spent in the task
Whereas one (1) developer in DAZ could do it in a fraction of the time
EDIT:
I moved all the large thumbnails to a backup folder (just in case of problems)
Then in IM I selected ALL the products and re-run the get 'all missing thumbnails'
IM appears to have re-downloaded all those thumbnails I removed with much smaller size (actually a little too small)
This issue was fixed in a recent build of DIM, overriding the oversied images from the store. The size is user-configurable. http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/change_log_1_4_0_94#1_4_0_83
HMmm, I'm running IM version 1.4.0.94 (64 bit)
As you say the thumbnail problem should be fixed in InstallMgr : Incremented build number to 1.4.0.82
Product thumbnails are now resized by the application if the image from the server exceeds the thumbnail local max height
Default max height is 182 pixels
Added support for an
OverrideThumbnailMaxHeightsettingManually set within the INI for a given account
Value is expected to be a number in the [182, 546] range
However I have not modified the INI file yet still had thumbnails exceeding 1440 vertical pixels despite the fix supposedly making default max height to 182 pixels
I will take a closer look at the INI and modify it to my preference.
EDIT:
Initially I assumed that IM would download thumbnails at original size and then resize them on-the-fly as they were shown in IM
However, what actually happens is that IM resizes thumbnails during the download according to the parameter setting
Therfore, to see the new parameter take effect, oversized thumbnails need to be re-downloaded
It resizes the thumbnail on download, it doesn't do anything to thee xisting downloaded thumbnails.
As I explained above :)
But that isn't obvious from the update notes.
If anybody has bothered to follow this thread so far
The new IM not only down-sizes 'too-large' thumbnails, it re-sizes ALL thumbnails according to the IM INI parameter '
OverrideThumbnailMaxHeight'(very small thumbnails are upsized, although to a lesser size than that set in the parameter, but still an improvement)
I first closed IM, then set the INI parameter to 546Deleted ALL my thumbnails(default installation location is C:\Users\Public\Documents\DAZ 3D\InstallManager\Thumbnails)Re-loaded IM
Then selected all products in each of the IM tabs (one tab at a time)Right mouse button over one of the selected products and select 'download all missing' from the menuNow, most thumbnails are an equal size and the product info is very easy to seeJoy for the OCD and those who enjoy uniformity :)