Products Showing They Need Installation

I ran DAZ Studio (latest version) today and ALL of my products were showing in Smart Content as needing to be installed.

Has anyone else ran in to this?

They all show the circle with the down-arrow.

If I double-click they the items inside are there and available for use, but it's a litle frustrating that they are showing they need to be installed at the top level (i.e. All Products, Anatomy, Environments, etc.)

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited April 2021

    That circle with down arrow does NOT mean they need to be installed. It means they are AVAILABLE for installation with Daz Connect. If you have already installed the products with DIM, Daz Central, or manually, DO NOT install them again from inside Daz Studio. If you do, you will have them installed twice, in two separate locations on your hard drive. The version installed from inside Daz Studio will be used. The other installed files and any future updates you do from DIM will be ignored. Some products don't work correctly when installed from inside Daz Studio, and some product don't work with content that is installed from inside Daz Studio.

    If you install with DIM, don't even let Daz Studio login to your account. Go to Edit/Preferences and turn off the option to let it automatically log you in.

    If you have already made the mistake of double installation, uninstall the products from inside Daz Studio and (if necessary) reinstall them with DIM. Instructions

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  • Db3dDb3d Posts: 248

    barbult said:

    That circle with down arrow does NOT mean they need to be installed. It means they are AVAILABLE for installation with Daz Connect. If you have already installed the products with DIM, Daz Central, or manually, DO NOT install them again from inside Daz Studio. If you do, you will have them installed twice, in two separate locations on your hard drive. The version installed from inside Daz Studio will be used. The other installed files and any future updates you do from DIM will be ignored. Some products don't work correctly when installed from inside Daz Studio, and some product don't work with content that is installed from inside Daz Studio.

    If you install with DIM, don't even let Daz Studio login to your account. Go to Edit/Preferences and turn off the option to let it automatically log you in.

    If you have already made the mistake of double installation, uninstall the products from inside Daz Studio and (if necessary) reinstall them with DIM. Instructions

     

    Let me ask this...

     

    If I "double install" them, will one be available for off-line, while the others is available on-line?

    Here's my new purchase work flow..

    1)  Purchase an asset from DAZ

    2)  Run CIM and install available packages

    3)  Run DAZ Studio, click on the (v) symbol and install the new package.

    Are you telling me that last step is complelely unnecessary?  

     

    Brent

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,730

    Db3d said:

    barbult said:

    That circle with down arrow does NOT mean they need to be installed. It means they are AVAILABLE for installation with Daz Connect. If you have already installed the products with DIM, Daz Central, or manually, DO NOT install them again from inside Daz Studio. If you do, you will have them installed twice, in two separate locations on your hard drive. The version installed from inside Daz Studio will be used. The other installed files and any future updates you do from DIM will be ignored. Some products don't work correctly when installed from inside Daz Studio, and some product don't work with content that is installed from inside Daz Studio.

    If you install with DIM, don't even let Daz Studio login to your account. Go to Edit/Preferences and turn off the option to let it automatically log you in.

    If you have already made the mistake of double installation, uninstall the products from inside Daz Studio and (if necessary) reinstall them with DIM. Instructions

     

    Let me ask this...

     

    If I "double install" them, will one be available for off-line, while the others is available on-line?

    No, however you install they are avaialble off line.

    Here's my new purchase work flow..

    1)  Purchase an asset from DAZ

    2)  Run CIM and install available packages

    3)  Run DAZ Studio, click on the (v) symbol and install the new package.

    Are you telling me that last step is complelely unnecessary?  

    Yes, just use one installation method.

     

    Brent

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    Db3d said:

    barbult said:

    That circle with down arrow does NOT mean they need to be installed. It means they are AVAILABLE for installation with Daz Connect. If you have already installed the products with DIM, Daz Central, or manually, DO NOT install them again from inside Daz Studio. If you do, you will have them installed twice, in two separate locations on your hard drive. The version installed from inside Daz Studio will be used. The other installed files and any future updates you do from DIM will be ignored. Some products don't work correctly when installed from inside Daz Studio, and some product don't work with content that is installed from inside Daz Studio.

    If you install with DIM, don't even let Daz Studio login to your account. Go to Edit/Preferences and turn off the option to let it automatically log you in.

    If you have already made the mistake of double installation, uninstall the products from inside Daz Studio and (if necessary) reinstall them with DIM. Instructions

     

    Let me ask this...

     

    If I "double install" them, will one be available for off-line, while the others is available on-line?

    Here's my new purchase work flow..

    1)  Purchase an asset from DAZ

    2)  Run CIM and install available packages

    3)  Run DAZ Studio, click on the (v) symbol and install the new package.

    Are you telling me that last step is complelely unnecessary?  

     

    Brent

    As far as offline availability goes, it doesn't matter which way you install. All content is available offline, whether you install with DIM, Daz Central, manually, or from inside Daz Studio (aka Daz Connect). 

    Yes, I am telling you the last step (3) is completely unnecessary. It is worse than unnecessary. It doubles the disk usage in your computer, it installs products that sometimes don't work with that installation method, it sometimes completely corrupts a product so that the files don't work, and lately, just letting Daz Studio log in causes product thumbnails to disappear (a Daz bug they are trying to fix).

  • Db3dDb3d Posts: 248

    Brent

    As far as offline availability goes, it doesn't matter which way you install. All content is available offline, whether you install with DIM, Daz Central, manually, or from inside Daz Studio (aka Daz Connect). 

    Yes, I am telling you the last step (3) is completely unnecessary. It is worse than unnecessary. It doubles the disk usage in your computer, it installs products that sometimes don't work with that installation method, it sometimes completely corrupts a product so that the files don't work, and lately, just letting Daz Studio log in causes product thumbnails to disappear (a Daz bug they are trying to fix).

    Okay, got it.  That's good to know.  I will strictly use DIM from now on.

    I knew they were "double installed" - one under the data cloud folders with the product # folders and such, and the other where I specified for my manually installed stuff that shows up with the DIM installed products AND stuff I get from Renderosity.    I've always thought that was a lot of duplicated files, but I had it in my head that "Smart Content" wouldn't work if you checked Filter By Content unless you did the extra step of installing with the (v).

    Let me see if I understand more deeply...

    When you install with DIM, you can still access throught Smart Content beccause DIM will place the meta data out there that allows Smart Content to find the files whether on-line or not???

     

    Brent

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    Db3d said:

    Brent

    As far as offline availability goes, it doesn't matter which way you install. All content is available offline, whether you install with DIM, Daz Central, manually, or from inside Daz Studio (aka Daz Connect). 

    Yes, I am telling you the last step (3) is completely unnecessary. It is worse than unnecessary. It doubles the disk usage in your computer, it installs products that sometimes don't work with that installation method, it sometimes completely corrupts a product so that the files don't work, and lately, just letting Daz Studio log in causes product thumbnails to disappear (a Daz bug they are trying to fix).

    Okay, got it.  That's good to know.  I will strictly use DIM from now on.

    I knew they were "double installed" - one under the data cloud folders with the product # folders and such, and the other where I specified for my manually installed stuff that shows up with the DIM installed products AND stuff I get from Renderosity.    I've always thought that was a lot of duplicated files, but I had it in my head that "Smart Content" wouldn't work if you checked Filter By Content unless you did the extra step of installing with the (v).

    Let me see if I understand more deeply...

    When you install with DIM, you can still access throught Smart Content beccause DIM will place the meta data out there that allows Smart Content to find the files whether on-line or not???

     

    Brent

     

    Yes, when you install with DIM, it installs the metadata. Smart Content is fully functional. There is no need to install from inside Daz Studio to use Smart Content.

    Daz sometimes (I'd say frequently) provides inaccurate metadata, no matter how you install, so you should still expect some Smart Content problems. sad 

  • Db3dDb3d Posts: 248

     

    Yes, when you install with DIM, it installs the metadata. Smart Content is fully functional. There is no need to install from inside Daz Studio to use Smart Content.

    Daz sometimes (I'd say frequently) provides inaccurate metadata, no matter how you install, so you should still expect some Smart Content problems. sad 

    Thank you for the education.  That's going to save me lots of time (and disk space) which will give me more time to create.  :)

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    When you uninstall products from Inside Daz Studio, the DIM installed version may not be immediately visible. The thumbnail will probably go gray, looking like it is completely uninstalled. You may need to reinstall the product again with DIM or reimport metadata from the Content DB Maintenance in Daz Studio. I linked to some detailed instructions above to fix double installation. You might want to glance through them. Don't be afraid to ask more questions if things aren't clear.

  • Dam, I've been installing them when I see them. It was to the point that They would install but the icon to install them would remain so I would try again. Knowing that you don't need to, or perhaps shouldn't do this is valuable. Thank you

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