Installation Foolishness
rbottoms_4152cdabc9
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I paid a significant amount of money Bryce 7.1 Terrain and other content and you don't include simple instructions for how to install them?
If the Install Manager is broken and the interface still looks like it did back under OS9 fine, but what possible reason is there not include a .pdf that shows simply and clearly and precisely where to put these files on a Mac?
I've been hunting for hours, submitted a request and I need my products to work now please.
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Horo has a handy PDF faq that covers where and how to install Bryce content (scroll down a few pages past the instructions for installing Bryce and Lighting): http://www.horo.ch/docs/mine/pdf/BryceContent_v4.pdf
Yes, I read it. And it mostly concerns Windows. If I'm going to be spending two or three hundred dollars with the company would it be too much to ask to make one just for OSX that is current?
What OS X are you using, because Bryce does not work with anything newer than 10.6. (as stated on the product page )
Having said that, Hor's PDF does show where the content should go within the structure of Bryce.
as per attached screen shot from the PDF.
This should be the same, regardless of operating system.
Hello,
What OS X version are you running?
Bryce itself won't run on 10.7 or later. You can run it on 10.6.8 or in a VM like Parallells, VMWare or Virtual Box to run it on a newer OS X version.
Second, Bryce installers do behave weird, as the old installers assume things about the system and how it was back when those installers were created. I recommend installing with DIM and most Bryce content now is available through DIM.
I am running 10.6 just like it CLEARLY states on the website. That's the problem, why on earth isn't easier to find information on the website that CLEARLY states where to put extracted zip files in Bryce?
I get that you're a content company now and that you bought Bryce so you don't have the in-house support to upgrade or fix it. But why you don't make it easy to install stuff you are SELLING is nuts. I guarantee you I will buy less of your product just because of this hassle.
I shouldn't have to look for this information it ought to be front and center before I ever attempt to download anything.
In the amount of time people have spent responding to me here they could have written up the required instructions in a "download & read this first" document. It's being in a rut of how you've always done things.
I stopped using Bryce because it was while the interface looked "cool" it was just too hard to use. Now all I want to do is download pre-made stuff, which is your business model now and you are still making it hard.
Foolishness.
And yes I saw the graphic in the post above.
What that doesn't tell me is what to do with:
IM00009847-01_RequiescatDS.zip
Do I unzip it and put the pieces individually in those directories? Do I put the whole thing someplace?
What EXACTLY am I supposed to do with it?
The DS at the end might tell you this is a file for DAZ Studio, not Bryce (Many products have downloads for both Poser, DAZ Studio and Bryce). Secondly, I heartily recommend downloading the DIM (DAZ Install Manager) which is the solution to the installation woes you have.
To cut a long story short, Apple's and microsoft's changes of the OS:es over the years, Apple with two CPU changes and two major OS changes have caused installer problems. DAZ has something like 18000+ products many with several installers. To keep all those current would require a manpower making content prices go up tenfold, DAZ's solution to this problem is DIM.
Requiescat is a textures set for Reparation which is a prop set to be used in either Daz Studio or Poser.
Jeez is this better?
IM00019339-01_Bryce71ProHighResolutionTerrainsSet2.zip
What is this, six posts now instead of spending time to FIX the problem?
Please read what I say, download DIM, install with DIM and you don't have to keep having problems. The solution has been here, you just don't see it.
DIM doesn't work with Bryce, even I found that in the documents online. That IS the problem, because if it did work we wouldn't be having this conversation where I keep explaining that you clearly have a problem and you spend time not fixing it.
WHERE DO I PUT THESE FILES!!!!!!
IM00017122-01_Bryce71ProVegetation.zip
IM00019339-01_Bryce71ProHighResolutionTerrainsSet2.zip
The people trying to help you here are either forum members, or volunteers, like myself and other members of the Forum Team.
Now those last is indeed a Bryce product.
regarding IM00019339-01_Bryce71ProHighResolutionTerrainsSet2.zip
It contains some pre-made scenes, which do not need to be added to Bryce, and 5 terrains to be added to your Object presets library. Plus it has materials etc. TO be honest I would unzip it to a temporary folder, move the parts that do need to be added to your Bryce Libraries.
The premade scenes can be opened directly within Bryce, just by directing Bryce to the temp folder where you have unzipped the files to.
Both the vendors of that particular set are very very active in the Bryce forum, and I will see if I can get them to come and help you more.
However AFAIK they both use PCs, so Totte is your best help as regards the Mac platform and moving things around.
It does, it's just Horo's products that are not made to suit DIM as they need tweaking on installation (yes, I've seen that thread).
did install a lot of Bryce contest with DIM, but as I haven't used Bryce in a year or so and I never really used it even though I've owned every version since 2.0. I cannot tell you where each thing goes, but Chohole did show you a bit up here where it goes. Unzip those zipfiles, then use ditto to move them into place or copy each thing from the zip to the corresponding directory in your Bryce directory.
I have dropped a PM over to Horo, and hopefully he can come and explain things a bit more.
Horo and David do include videos as well in most of their products, which is why it is best to unzip to a temporary location, in order to deal with all the large amount of stuff you will find in the zips, much of which does not need to be installed into the Bryce program at all.
I appreciate the volunteer help. Why companies whose livelihood depends on a smooth enjoyable user experience don't feel it worth the money to PAY someone to do this stuff is beyond me.
Before this experience I was ready to start emptying my wallet for their Bryce products.
I am not a modeller and buying pre-made environments is my best option to get my prototype games done.
However, I am now vigorously looking for places other than DAZ to get what I need simply because of their unwillingness to spend the few lousy dollars it would take to fix their broken installer so that it support Bryce, or better yet to replace Bryce with software that isn't based on patched over 1990's technology.
The fact that Bryce only runs on 10.6.x OSX tells me Bryce is a dead end technology, one that I will not be putting any more money into.
@richardbottoms - welcome to Bryce and thank you for supporting David Brinnen's and my products. You have issues where to put stuff. The PDF Sean Riesch mentions above is for PC and Mac.
The following is for Bryce stuff only, if you've got Studio content, do use DIM because it does a fabulous job installing everything. DIM doesn't handle all Bryce stuff correctly because there are parts that need to be in a particular location (which you can organse yourself with creating new sub-folders) and other stuff can go wherever you like.
It is indeed unfortunate that there is no room to put a read-me file right in the store. That's why I have that PDF Sean mentioned above freely available - and it is also contained in every product of David and myself.
Get the Bryce stuff as zip. Once downloaded, unpack the zip with retaining the folder structure into a free folder of your choice, e.g. MyNewStuff, Temp, etc. Then look what you've got. At least our products have detailed instructions where stuff belongs. Then copy the files to the appropriate folders.
There is a folder Doc which contains general instructions about how stuff is organised in Bryce. Each folder and sub-folder contains a text file that lists what is in this folder and where the files belong. There is no change whether you're on a WinPC or a Mac. What you do need to know is where you have Bryce installed.
It is unfair to put the blame on me personally. DIM cannot handle Bryce products because it was made for DS. Though there are mandatory locations to put certain file types and this could be handled by DIM, within those locations the user is free to create additional folders to organise his/her stuff to have more order than what you find in the DS file structure.
Neither can DIM know where the user wants the videos, the example files, the HDRIs, additional trees, etc. If it were possible to prepare a Bryce product to be installed by DIM, it would be packed this way, if not by me than by QA.