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4.14 Doesn't Load

yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

4.14 stalls when opening. I never get to use the application.

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  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    yas1535 said:

    4.14 stalls when opening. I never get to use the application.

    Is anyone else experiencing this? Has anyone experienced this with other versions?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    I can't see that shrunken image. Have you closed DS through Task Manager?

  • jrapp11jrapp11 Posts: 4

    Hi,

    I had 4.14 load when I uploaded content using DIM. I didn't notice it was in the list. My mistake there.

    However, it is now loaded. But it is constantly updating metadata. It's been goign for two days. I can't render anything, and when I try to acccess my account from the connect tab it tells me the site doesn't exist. Also my log file says there is a persistant error with my browser. I have no idea where to start trying fo fix this. I sent a note to Tech a few days ago. No word back yet. I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling, that didn't help. I tried reinstalling 4.12, still ended up with 4.14. I'm dead in the water until I resolve this.

    Any thoughts out there?

    Oh, I am at the latest level of C==. I recall an error with that when I went to 4.12 the first time.

    Thanks,

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    jrapp11 said:

    Hi,

    I had 4.14 load when I uploaded content using DIM. I didn't notice it was in the list. My mistake there.

    However, it is now loaded. But it is constantly updating metadata. It's been goign for two days. I can't render anything, and when I try to acccess my account from the connect tab it tells me the site doesn't exist. Also my log file says there is a persistant error with my browser. I have no idea where to start trying fo fix this. I sent a note to Tech a few days ago. No word back yet. I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling, that didn't help. I tried reinstalling 4.12, still ended up with 4.14. I'm dead in the water until I resolve this.

    Any thoughts out there?

    Oh, I am at the latest level of C==. I recall an error with that when I went to 4.12 the first time.

    Thanks,

    Your experience is pretty much what I was trying to post earlier. I got Daz 4.14 to install and used it. Then, a few days later it won't open to where I can see the work space. All I get when I hover over the icon in the taskbar is the little white screen. I also tried to uninstall it and reinstall it several times. I'm researching the problem but still haven't found anything.

  • viper3360viper3360 Posts: 7

    Yes, experience a very simular problem.
    Upgraded to version 4.14. It will initially load and operate fine, however; if I close out the program and try and re-open it, it will not open. In order to get it to open again, after the inital opening of the program, I have to restart my PC. Very frustrating to say the least.
    Another issue I found is the Environment and Tone Mapping options do not appear at all in the Rendering Settings list. When I click the Render Tab, the Iray render window opens and scene rendering begins, and the Environment and Tone Mapping Settings options will then suddenly appear in Render Settings, but they also write themselves and appear on the Scene View list as "Tone Mapper Option" and "Environment Option". Have to do a blind render (not able to set Envirionment or Tone Mapping settings) in order for these setting options to appear for use. If you remove the Environment Option and the Mapping Option from the Scene View list it removes the options from the Render Settings list. 

    Any fix for this issue, and what is causing this?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    Are you closing normally or are you using Task Manager to close?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758
    edited November 2020
    viper3360 said:

    Yes, experience a very simular problem.
    Upgraded to version 4.14. It will initially load and operate fine, however; if I close out the program and try and re-open it, it will not open. In order to get it to open again, after the inital opening of the program, I have to restart my PC. Very frustrating to say the least.

    See the information on instances in Daz Studio Pro 4.12 - instances

    viper3360 said:

    Another issue I found is the Environment and Tone Mapping options do not appear at all in the Rendering Settings list. When I click the Render Tab, the Iray render window opens and scene rendering begins, and the Environment and Tone Mapping Settings options will then suddenly appear in Render Settings, but they also write themselves and appear on the Scene View list as "Tone Mapper Option" and "Environment Option". Have to do a blind render (not able to set Envirionment or Tone Mapping settings) in order for these setting options to appear for use. If you remove the Environment Option and the Mapping Option from the Scene View list it removes the options from the Render Settings list. 

    This is the expected bhaviour - see the discussion of the new singleton nodes in the release and highlights threads.

    viper3360 said:

    Any fix for this issue, and what is causing this?

     

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • Leonides02Leonides02 Posts: 1,379
    Richard Haseltine said:

     

    This is the expected bhaviour - see the discussion of the new singleton nodes in the release and highlights threads.

     

    What is the point of this downgrade?

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758
    Leonides02 said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

     

    This is the expected bhaviour - see the discussion of the new singleton nodes in the release and highlights threads.

     

    What is the point of this downgrade?

    The point of this development is:

    The singleton nodes are the embodiment of scene level options moved (not copied) to nodes in the scene in order to provide access to those settings outside of the limited context there were previously provided under. Because it is now possible to have a viewport set to the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle, and also have the active renderer set to NVIDIA Iray, both of which have similar settings, it was not intuitive to have to go to Render Settings for the NVIDIA Iray renderer in order to adjust a setting that affected the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle. Similarly, it would not be intuitive to have to set the DrawStyle for the active viewport (of which there can be several) to Filament (PBR) and then access the Draw Setting pane in order adjust setting that affect the NVIDIA Iray renderer. It made more sense to expose the common settings using a familiar paradigm (a node in the scene), introduce the concept of singletons, and present the properties on those nodes in the appropriate panes when/where applicable.

  • Leonides02Leonides02 Posts: 1,379
    edited November 2020
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Leonides02 said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

     

    This is the expected bhaviour - see the discussion of the new singleton nodes in the release and highlights threads.

     

    What is the point of this downgrade?

    The point of this development is:

    The singleton nodes are the embodiment of scene level options moved (not copied) to nodes in the scene in order to provide access to those settings outside of the limited context there were previously provided under. Because it is now possible to have a viewport set to the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle, and also have the active renderer set to NVIDIA Iray, both of which have similar settings, it was not intuitive to have to go to Render Settings for the NVIDIA Iray renderer in order to adjust a setting that affected the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle. Similarly, it would not be intuitive to have to set the DrawStyle for the active viewport (of which there can be several) to Filament (PBR) and then access the Draw Setting pane in order adjust setting that affect the NVIDIA Iray renderer. It made more sense to expose the common settings using a familiar paradigm (a node in the scene), introduce the concept of singletons, and present the properties on those nodes in the appropriate panes when/where applicable.

    In my opinion it's not a "development" if it takes me more steps to do what I did before.

     

    Post edited by Leonides02 on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758
    Leonides02 said:
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Leonides02 said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

     

    This is the expected bhaviour - see the discussion of the new singleton nodes in the release and highlights threads.

     

    What is the point of this downgrade?

    The point of this development is:

    The singleton nodes are the embodiment of scene level options moved (not copied) to nodes in the scene in order to provide access to those settings outside of the limited context there were previously provided under. Because it is now possible to have a viewport set to the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle, and also have the active renderer set to NVIDIA Iray, both of which have similar settings, it was not intuitive to have to go to Render Settings for the NVIDIA Iray renderer in order to adjust a setting that affected the Filament (PBR) DrawStyle. Similarly, it would not be intuitive to have to set the DrawStyle for the active viewport (of which there can be several) to Filament (PBR) and then access the Draw Setting pane in order adjust setting that affect the NVIDIA Iray renderer. It made more sense to expose the common settings using a familiar paradigm (a node in the scene), introduce the concept of singletons, and present the properties on those nodes in the appropriate panes when/where applicable.

    In my opinion it's not a "development" if it takes me more steps to do what I did before.

     

    Nevertheless, it is something that was done for a reason.

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    edited November 2020

    When I click on the Daz app it never opens. This is all I see when I hover my mouse over the icon. Does anyone have a solution? The app never opens.

    daz studio stalled 2.png
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    Post edited by yas1535 on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    Which OS is that?

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    edited November 2020

    Windows 10 20H2

    Post edited by yas1535 on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    In that case, go to

    %AppDATA%/daz 3d/studio/log.txt

    and look at the final lines - what are they?

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    edited November 2020
    Richard Haseltine said:

    In that case, go to

    %AppDATA%/daz 3d/studio/log.txt

    and look at the final lines - what are they?

    2020-11-21 13:25:41.556 Clearing Undo Stack...
    2020-11-21 13:25:41.568 Deleting Scene...

    These are the last two lines. Is this what you are looking for?

    Post edited by yas1535 on
  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    Richard Haseltine said:

    In that case, go to

    %AppDATA%/daz 3d/studio/log.txt

    and look at the final lines - what are they?

    This is what I see when I first open the app.

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.256 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.257 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:30:00 GMT

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.257 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Server: Apache

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.257 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Vary: Accept-Encoding

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Content-Length: 226

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Connection: close

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: 

    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.258 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: <html><head>
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.259 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: <title>400 Bad Request</title>
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.259 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: </head><body>
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.259 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: <h1>Bad Request</h1>
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.260 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: <p>Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.<br />
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.260 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: </p>
    2020-11-21 13:30:01.260 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Got an unknown command from the persistent connection: </body></html>

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    What is before that block of errors? They are not fatal in themsellves, a lot of us are seeing them.

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    Richard Haseltine said:

    What is before that block of errors? They are not fatal in themsellves, a lot of us are seeing them.

    The attached file shows everything from start up to the errors.

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    Error Log.txt
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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    Did you start DS by double-clicking D:/Scenes/Model Room001.duf or is that a scene DS iss et to auto-load on start up? What happens if you just start DS without the scene?

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    edited November 2020
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Did you start DS by double-clicking D:/Scenes/Model Room001.duf or is that a scene DS iss et to auto-load on start up? What happens if you just start DS without the scene?

    The Model Room001 scene autoloads at start up. I'm not sure how to start Daz without the auto loaded scene. I tried opening two other scenes (after closing each previous scene each time) and got the same result. 

    Post edited by yas1535 on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,758

    Do you have the Public Build, in the same version? Does it open, and can it open the scene?

    I do wonder if there's some kind of error pop-up that is blocking the application from fully opening, but on the other hand it really should be displaying the UI by the time it gets to opening the scene.

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Do you have the Public Build, in the same version? Does it open, and can it open the scene?

    I do wonder if there's some kind of error pop-up that is blocking the application from fully opening, but on the other hand it really should be displaying the UI by the time it gets to opening the scene.

    I only have the current release. 

  • yas1535yas1535 Posts: 11

    I am going to keep working on it. Thanks for your help. I'll post again when I have it fixed.

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