DAZ freezing on loading scenes, even when I merge them in.
spearcarrier
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My DAZ studio(s) have been getting slower and slower. I was in touched with the guys at DAZ about it, but before I reopened the ticketd I thought I'd try here. I've already searched for an answer, and although I found others who are having similar problems no solutions have been presented.
Essentially today is the day I reserve to work on my webcomic. And as per usual, am I working on it or am I fighting with a broken DAZ studio? (sigh) This time, I went to load one of the panel scenes already established so I could use it to pick up where I left off from in the story. The first one I tried to load did, eventually, and I thought nothing of it because DAZ has been so stupid slow lately. But from then one, not so much. I try to load panel 5, and it will start, then get to "deleting objects" and hang.
I updated my drivers. Still not working.
I tried dragging and dropping the scene in so it would merge and hopefully bypass the deleting objects bs. (considering I'm trying to load from an empty scene most especially). Still hangs.
I used the DAZ dialogue to tell it to merge scene. You'd THINK it wouldn't delete objects if I'm MERGING. No. It's hung. I currently have two different versions of DAZ 4.12 open and hung. I'm spitting rire out of my ears.
I did find the log file for one and it's constantly gaining data, so something is happening. But what, and how can I stop this stupidity. I miss the days when DAZ only lost my library, and that's all that would go wrong.
Anybody know the answer?
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Clear your log and try again, what does the log say after you load your base figure (Genesis 3/8 Basic Male/Female)?
It sounds very much like the characters and morphs that you have installed for your base figures (Genesis 3/8?) are not happy to be together and/or you have tons of them installed, but without the log there is no way to find out which ones are the culprit.
Well they liked each other before. How rude of them.
The log does say things like:
2020-10-08 14:16:24.004 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6871): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:16:24.004 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6872): output: rCarpal4:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#rCarpal4?end_point/y
2020-10-08 14:16:24.005 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6873): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Sakura%208%20Body/FBM%20Sakura8Body.dsf#FBM%20Sakura8Body?value
2020-10-08 14:16:24.238 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6870): Duplicate formula found linking yEnd & FBM Sakura8Body in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Sakura 8 Body/FBM Sakura8Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:16:24.238 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6871): owner: Genesis3Female
But I wouldn't know how to fix that. And all of this wasn't a problem just last week, when I worked last. (sigh) Clearing log again and trying again.
Nope, same story. I deleted the Sakura 8 character transfer from Genesis 3, cleared log, still frozen.
How long does it take to load a "Genesis 3 Female", the base figure into an empty scene, 5, 10, 30minutes?
I would expect the list of warnings to be a lot longer, can you post it here as an attachment.
Have you installed anything new for Genesis 3 Female during the last week?
The log keeps growing. It is huge now. I keep deleting it to see what's going on. Currently the error that keeps repeating is something with my original character, but she's loading just fine by herself in just a couple of minutes: Genesis 3F. The Sakura 8 issue I hope didn't break other characters when I deleted things. But with Ruffles, I checked under the data file and there are no duplicates.
It's strange because the scene doesn't require her *at all*. She's not dialed anywhere on any of the characters.
Haven't installed anything new that I can recall. I'll check my purchase logs.
EDIt: This is only partial on the log. It really is very long.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.155 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking zOrigin & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.155 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:40.155 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lCarpal1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lCarpal1?center_point/z
2020-10-08 14:54:40.157 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:40.329 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking xEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.329 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:40.329 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lCarpal1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lCarpal1?end_point/x
2020-10-08 14:54:40.329 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:40.500 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking yEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.500 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:40.500 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lCarpal1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lCarpal1?end_point/y
2020-10-08 14:54:40.500 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:40.673 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking zEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.673 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:40.673 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lCarpal1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lCarpal1?end_point/z
2020-10-08 14:54:40.675 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:40.847 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking xOrigin & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:40.847 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:40.847 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?center_point/x
2020-10-08 14:54:40.847 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:41.018 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:41.039 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:41.039 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?center_point/y
2020-10-08 14:54:41.039 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:41.211 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking zOrigin & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:41.211 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:41.211 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?center_point/z
2020-10-08 14:54:41.211 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:41.382 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking xEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:41.382 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:41.383 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?end_point/x
2020-10-08 14:54:41.383 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:41.555 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking yEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:41.557 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:41.557 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?end_point/y
2020-10-08 14:54:41.557 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis3Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles%20Body/Ruffles%20Body.dsf#Ruffles%20Body?value
2020-10-08 14:54:41.731 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking zEnd & Ruffles Body in K:/3content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/Spearcarrier/Ruffles Body/Ruffles Body.dsf.
2020-10-08 14:54:41.731 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis3Female
2020-10-08 14:54:41.731 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: lIndex1:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%203/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf#lIndex1?end_point/z
Do not copy the log into the post, but attach the log as a file.
All the characters and morphs that you have installed for Genesis 3 Female will be read each time you load any Genesis 3 Female based character into the scene, no matter if they are activated for that character or not - If there are characters and/or morphs that don't like to play together, it takes time for DS to try finding a solution, or if the character/morph comes with errors left by the creator, again it takes time for DS to think about the situation it can't understand, or if you do have tons of characters/morphs there is just too much to read and that takes time, but to my experience the biggest delay in loading a character comes from having those "warnings".
If everything was fine a week ago and you haven't installed any characters or morphs for Genesis 3 Female since then, have you by any chance saved/updated any assets related to Ruffles?
I have had a case when DS updated an asset file and inside the file I did find duplicate formulas that were referring to different things just like the log was telling.
"I hope didn't break other characters when I deleted things." - What did you delete?
I just deleted my Sakura morph transfer. Most of it is stil there but her head is gone. I'll have to bring that back in again when I get this straight.
I'll attach the log as it is growing.
I did update Ruffles recently, actually. She was the last thing I did before I went to other matters for a few days. Mostly I updated her eye colors and changed her outfit. Nothing major. Her body shape and head have been established for a long time now. She's actually a character transfer from Aiko 3 Kioki.
BTW thank you for taking the time to help; me figure this out. Maybe I'll learn something, increase the ol' skill set.
Agh. It won't attach.
You said "I currently have two different versions of DAZ 4.12 open and hung. " Are you running two different versions of DS 4.12 on the same computer at the same time? Are they interfering with each other?
Is it possible that you are having hardware problems with the HD containing your content?
Another thing to check is click the 3 hamburger lines in the upper left corner of your scene items list and select show hidden. Delete all the "reality scene" nodes that show up. That will speed up load, use and merging.
Hey thanks for joining the party!
I was having the problem with only running the one (that's usually BETA) but opened the 2nd so I could keep moving about while things did what they did. After a long long while the file finally did open, and I'm afraid to close it (lol) but at least I got some work done. I spent a long time today trying to get Dropbox to also cooperate so I could give a download link for the log, but no dice so far. Too much in my box, things too slow syncing.
If I delete these nodes, will it hurt how I render in any way? I use toon render, not iray, for this project.
Although I'm not finding any nodes like this in my scene. So there is that.
Deleting the reality nodes wouldn't hurt the render at all. They are for the reality render engine but some older models have these hidden nodes (likely unintentionally) saved in files so after loading an mergingmultiple times, the comic scene becomes filled with them and it slows DS down drastically. I've had thousands of them in my scenes before and I was kind of hoping that would have been your case as well since it would have been a simple fix of deleting them, then resaving the scene without them.
It's something I have to get into the habit of looking for.
At least things are sort of working now. I've been able to open newer scenes after this. So maybe that scene just got wonked out somehow. I hope I don't have to open it again.