AI is going to be our biggest game changer
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I have been looking for a really great Abraham Lincoln model for DAZ for some time now. No luck - nothing of the quality I am hoping for. Then MidJourney - WOW!
prompt was something like, "Photorealistic portrait of Abraham Lincoln if he had lived to be 93 years old."
- With a small amount of Photoshop
That can be "fixed" by convincing all artists to sign away the distribution rights to their work to centralised companies who will then sell that work for an overly-inflated cut of the profits and eventually become powerful enough to start buying laws to add absurd levels of protection over artistic styles and works.
Not sure that would be a net-positive situation tho.
Problem with Shudu is that she was actually called "AI model" before these AI generators in many news articles over the years and it was never corrected as it sounded catchy and trendy at the time and it stuck and now sounds familiar to people who are just becoming acquainted with the terms. OP didn't hear about Daz Studio which isn't a sin, many have corrected them in the comments by pulling a paralel between CGI and AI.
I'm not seeing a slippery slope I'm seeing lack of information in the right places, Shudu is a very controversial example of Daz Studio on her own and not just because she's thought of as an AI. Lots of Daz artists have found their place on Artstation and alike even though it's preferred to still push the narrative how we're not accepted well enough in 3D and digital communities, it's just not always true. I'd still rather be advised by 3D and industry professionals how to improve my work than joining effortless mass production of images because of one mishap in communication of one person on Twitter who took an issue with Shudu.
Doesn't take much to take people off an a tangent - right or wrong. I think calling any of it AI in the first place was a mistake.
This is actually quite nice to see. I was browsing ArtStation recently in hopes of buying some framed prints (80's vibe neon city type stuff for one of my office walls) and the amount of AI I had to weed through was quite depressing (considering I'd be paying ~$100+ for the print). Some of the users were honest about it being AI in the detail notes, but some weren't.
ai is like crack, I cannot leave it alone
and nobody is going to gatekeep my enjoyment of it
but
using it does not make me an artist
anymore than playing Skyrim makes me a Dragonborn capable of dual wielding weapons and casting spells and chants
I have no issues with ai only people passing it off as their own work, they can post in a gallery but say it was made using ai
I am uploading lots of videos, my main channel for it is called My ArtyFarty AI stuff
if I upload to my other channels ai is usually in the title and otherwise always in the description
The problem is, the art world feels differently. As it runs on novelty and social hierarchy, AI art will be treated as art - That's already happening. After all, the only requirement for a thing to be art is the intentionality that it is made as art coupled with acceptance of the work in the institutions of the art world. So, maybe playing Skyrim does not make you a Dragonborn, but making AI art with the intention of the result being art may indeed make you an artist. I don't like that argument at all, but it does seem to be consistent with the way art and the art world actually work.
If I were to push the pro-AI bit even further, I would argue that appropriation has long been part of the art world. It is accepted and people have made careers doing that. AI is simply another form of appropriation, no better and no worse than other forms of explicit appropriation. I suspect the biggest problems with it are the perceived ubiquity and the mass quantity of output from people using the generators combined with the quantity of appropriated artwork and the way that work has been used to make the system go. I expect the push to make the web ever-more accessible has accelerated the way AIs can be trained. Now, many pictures have captions and alt text explaining what the pictures are, what they're supposed to show. This must be a huge boon to people developing automated systems that correlate relationships between text phrases and images.
None of this means I like or support the use or creation of AI art. I still block so-called AI artists wherever I find them. But I will say, AI art is here to stay. People who actually make art will have to find ways to adapt and fight against that.
Interesting. Shudu is mentioned again in that article too. One comment I have is its notoriously hard to actually get a children's book published in the first place so with the flaws in the book I don't think there's a chance of it actually getting published - for now.
My next immediate thought though was - wouldn't it be awesome to create a children's book for my granddaughter on the fly, using pictures of her and making her part of the story? No intention of ever publishing it, but it would be such a great way to interact with her.
That is an awesome use of the new AI tech!!
D|S. Abandonment. Future.
AI generated geometry.
NVIDIA - https://deepimagination.cc/Magic3D/
Google - https://dreamfusion3d.github.io/
Fun. Games. Hurt.
I added a rather accusatory prompt in the text field and recieved a blank generated image output. interesting.
I just had a thought: How long till we have an AI that can prompt better than humans?
Well, that is great news, links those two suckers together, no humans need. Just ask it to make random art till the end of time and we can stop doing this. This is going to save us a lot of time and money /s
I haven't touched DS in a month now, AI generation has been a lot of fun. I don't sell, I curate and learn to work it as a tool. It's like being a photographer in a dream landscape of sorts.
I don't think that tweet has anything to do with objecting to computer models or computer generated artwork.
The objection is about how a cis-white British man using the visage of a black woman, a demographic that historically makes far less than white men, for commerical gain without having any actual black women involved.
I can understand the concern and how offensive this could be to women of color.
That will happen There are already dedicated text prompt generators. I think that's a pretty obvious feature for the future - No humans required.
I agree - the first tweet doesn't have anything to do with computer generated art - however when you start reading the comments there is no distinction being made - any computer generated art is seen as not art - because there was a computer involved in the creation.
This is a conversation that can go round and round and round and I would rather be creating art. Computer or otherwise - it gives me enjoyment. I wish you all a happy wonderful christmas with your loved ones.
Personally, I have no objections with the abstract idea of someone using AI in a creative manner, provided they are using source materials to train the AI that they have either created themselves or purchased.
Where I have an objection, is the use of AI's who have been trained using artwork that the original creator did not consent to be used or was reimbursed for. And I think if someone is using an AI that they did not train themselves with their own images, they have an ethical responsibility to find out where the training came from. Otherwise, they are just pirating other people's work.
Whether or not AI generated work is art or not isn't a topic I'm choosing to weigh in on.
Maybe the GPT3 chat bot
can write some new screenplays for hollywood.
How long before we get short custom Pixar/Disney movies by just entering a question into an AI? Where will this go? Complete photorealistic 3D movies in 15 years time?
oh I know exactly where it is going
Virtual ChatBot companions
a lot of lonely horny people out there
Of course! Pretty soon we''ll have virtual extremely hot partners with endless patience, virtual personal managers that can manage your busines more agressively than you can (are we going to see AIs bullying eachother on twitter?), our own virtual artists for all entertainment and art we want to consume, a robot home assistant with personal entertainment/care accessories. Though there are upsides, it also feels kind of dystopian.
it's when they pass the Turing test it will get interesting