ONLY Render shows pokethrough

Loony

Hi,

I have here a problem.

Render:

Viewport:

 

Viewport render:

 

 

WHY , is ONLY in the render a pokethrough? I have no idea how I can fix a problem, that I can not see :(

kenshaw011267

Espand the garment a little. Run the render for a few hundred iters, till you can see the poke throughs. see if they've improved. You might need to change which region you expand. It is a major PITA. The viewport by default uses a different render engine so it won't always show things as they will look in the full render.

Loony

I did increased smoothing and I increased the Expand all to 7%.

still one hole left :(

Its hard to fix, when I can not see it.

I assume I will just fix it later in gimp with a clone tool.

 

Quixotry

If you want to avoid having to fix it in Gimp, you could try hiding that part of the character's legs. It looks as though you have socks on the character anyway, so the hidden limb wouldn't be a problem. Select the shin bone in the viewport or in the Scene tab, and then hide that section of the mesh by clicking on the eye symbol to the left of the bone. I do this any time expanding the garment or adjusting smoothing doesn't work.

Loony

Yes the char have socks on, because otherwise the feet would be naked :o and I love cute socks ^_^

(I just wear socks in grey, with orange borders, blue toes and big white points, like a big clown hihi, Funky!).

I didnt thinked about hiding the legs hmmm... too late render is done :)

I was/am just frustraded, that I could not fix it "ingame" (I love to say ingame... daz3d is my fav. game :3)

 

Catherine3678ab

That type of situation is often caused because of displacement values being a tad too strong. Displacement actually moves the mesh.

richardandtracy

And, to add to Catherine's statement above, displacement is only applied during a full render, which is why you only see it there. I don't know whether it's possible to make it appear in the iRay preview mode - you may well have to look in the 'Draw Settings' tab to see - I've never looked. However, it would slow the iRay preview even further & it's not too fast at the best of times unless you have a really powerful graphics card.

There are a number of options, as stated above:

1. Make parts of the character invisible using either the surface cutout opacity or hiding the particular part of the body in the scene tab.
2. Scale the clothing to make it a little larger.
3. Reduce the clothing's negative displacement values, and possibly increasing the positve values by the same amount. to maintain the same relative displacement between high & low sections.

Regards,

Richard

Loony

Catherine3678ab said:

That type of situation is often caused because of displacement values being a tad too strong. Displacement actually moves the mesh.

would say, there is no displacement :(

Only a normal Bump.

 

richardandtracy

Is there no displacement further down the list, it's usially visible near the 'Cutout Opacity' and just above Horizontal/Vertical tiles. It isn't normally near the 'Bump' slider, even though it would seem a sensible place to put it.

Regards,

Richard.

Loony

nope:

but I did now just hide the legs and used the moment to also hide the feet :)

 

 

SimonJM

Don't forget to check both the clothing AND the underlying figure for displacment ...

Loony

SimonJM said:

Don't forget to check both the clothing AND the underlying figure for displacment ...

there is also no displacement :)

Loony

ARGHHHHHH

Come on, the software hates me!

I fixed it with meshgrabber, but damn, that it waits on the render! I wanted to click render and leave the PC).

TheCediz

Could it be that the subdivision level of the pants or character is lower on the viewport than the subdivision on render and therefore the different geometry creates the poke-throughs only during Iray rendering?

Loony

TheCediz said:

Could it be that the subdivision level of the pants or character is lower on the viewport than the subdivision on render and therefore the different geometry creates the poke-throughs only during Iray rendering?

No idea ㄟ( ▔, ▔ )ㄏ

but saw this in the drawing settings:

maybe that can change that? No idea.

Serene Night

I've found often hd morph on figures cause pokethrough on men's clothing.

Loony

Yes my char is using HD details.

TheCediz

If the render and viewport resolution are different, you gonna have different effects on the geometries and it might creates pokethroughs. Both the clothing and figure need to be checked and corrected for this.

Loony

yeah that subD is always different.

Loony

Serene Night said:

I've found often hd morph on figures cause pokethrough on men's clothing.

That was sadly the problem :( I disabled the Body HD morph and now the pokethrough is gone, had it again (I build comics, so I need my char multiple times).

but well, the boy is covered full in clothes so the body is anyway not visible and the HD details aren't needed, I just let the Face HD on, not that I really see it xD...

 

Serene Night

Loony said:

Serene Night said:

I've found often hd morph on figures cause pokethrough on men's clothing.

That was sadly the problem :( I disabled the Body HD morph and now the pokethrough is gone, had it again (I build comics, so I need my char multiple times).

but well, the boy is covered full in clothes so the body is anyway not visible and the HD details aren't needed, I just let the Face HD on, not that I really see it xD...

 

Yeah, I'm sorry to be right. In rendering men, with HD muscles all the time, I can never get their clothig not to have pokethrough. So what I do is save out two versions, one with HD, and one with none but head for wearing full clothing. But yeah, I agree, it is disappointing and frustrating issue. 

Noah LGP

SubD 4 is only visible  in render, I use a geoshell (figure) as a Collision item for the Smoothing Modifier.

Loony

I dont think I have subd4. Just subd2, is HD even worth with that low SubD? xD