Best Video Card Upgrade
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I currently have an nVidia GTX 1070 which is doing okay, but run out of memory on some of the scenes I play with and then my processors ramp to 100% which I am trying to avoid. The new CPU Load Limit settings do not seem to work well for highly scaled processors (dual Xeon 2680 v3). I have been using Process Lasso to keep my workstation from going into "jet engine" mode and it works, for the most part, pretty well.
I have been looking heavily at an older Quadro M6000 24GB, but am concerned the speed hit would make renders unbearably long. I have also been looking at an nVidia Titan XP, and the Quadro RTX 4000.
Budget is around $1300.
Of the cards listed, what do the experts here think would give the best "bang for the buck"
I'd like to try the raytracing functionality in the RTX cards, but am concerned there would still be a memory issue.
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The RTX and Quadro Ray Tracing Graphics Cards from NVIDIA are what you need to be looking at. I've been told that the more CUDA Cores, the better, for renders. I think your best bet for high VRAM, a high amount of CUDA cores is the RTX 2080 Ti.
Also if you get any of the RTX series, they specialize in the "AI Denoising" which NVIDIA claims to reduce your render times from hours to minutes. I didn't know this I have the RTX 2060 Mobile. I tested this in a scene that I know takes about 20 minutes to fully complete w/o Post-Denosier in DAZ. I turned that baby on, set it to active after 100 iterations, and oh my goodness, my render was basically done.
Again, I'm not an expert but I like to experiment with technology and research, so to answer your question RTX 2080 Ti.
Also concurrently, the benchmark results for best performing GPU's from 3DMark lists: #1 NVIDIA Titan RTX #2 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
You can look for yourself here:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-gpus?amount=0&sortBy=SCORE&reverseOrder=true&types=DESKTOP&minRating=0
Hope this helps!
It might be worth it to save your money a little longer and wait until the RTX 30 series drops. It could be in september, the 3080 is rumored to have 10GB VRAM and 4352 ampere cuda cores.
Coincidentally this topic was discused in an article article on Tom's Hardware just the other day. Link.
It should be explicitly stated that the title of the Tom's Hardware article is "Right Now Is a Terrible Time to Buy a Graphics Card".
Just hold out for a few more months, if you can. One day, relatively soon, you are going to wake up and your choices and rationale will be fundamentally different.
I wouldn't make a three year mistake because of twice that many months.
Just bear in mind that the llast two generations have not worked for Iray at all for a few months
Tom's Hardware should just shut down in shame.
No one outside of Nvidia and their partners, and probably not even their partners, has any idea when, or even if, Ampere cards are coming.
Normally, because Nvidia makes more money from datacenters than they do from gamers, they offer Quadros well in advance of gaming cards. No Ampere Quadro cards have been offered. The Ampere racks they announced last month cannot be bought anywhere by anyone, every serious effects house wants them and can't get them (the promised performance per dollar basically makes everything else obsolete).
Lambda labs, the company Nvidia is selling the A100's through, is simply taking pre orders and they won't even tell you an expected delivery date. They do want half the money up front though. I truly have no idea what is going on with Ampere but I do know when I told my boss to call those guys he called me back hopping mad. Something about them wanting half a million but not wanting to even give him a delivery quarter.
So until an announcement is actually made about Amopere cards is made stop telling people the cards are on the way.
Hopefully after much practice, Nvidia has figured out how to write a driver. Still, point taken.
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The RTX 3080 ti is now sounding like SEP20. They're talking as much as 20GB of RAM, as well as lower power usage.
Not to be forgotten, AMD is getting into the raytracing business. They have hinted that a card may show up by the end of the year, after they have first tended to game consoles.
Either way, the benefit of running two cards is likely to diminish shortly.
A co-worker once said to me, "If they want an estimate that is 100% accurate, they'll have to wait till the job is over."
Ordinarily, I would have to admit that these are good points. The difference that I believe invalidates your admittedly reasonable argument is that AMD, for the first time in ten years, has a viable competitive consumer product coming as well.
And if, as you say, we must simply wait for an announcement to know anything, until an announcement is actually made about Ampere cards is made stop telling people the cards are not on the way.
Current card = Geforce GTX 1070 8GB : Good Speed not enough RAM for some of your scenes.
I agree with your assesment of the Quadro M6000 24GB. It will have plenty of RAM, but will be quite a bit slower in renders.
The Titan XP will be a fair bit faster rendering, but only has 12GB of RAM : Not worth the price premium over the GTX 1080ti 11GB card.
The Quadro RTX 4000 is faster and has hardware Raytracing, but has exactly the same problem you are experiencing right now... 8GB of RAM
My reccomendation would be to look at the Quadro P5000 16GB cards. They can be had for around $1000. This gets you double your current VRAM and a noticable render speed boost.
On a side note, here is something to keep in mind, The retail price on a brand new Quadro RTX 5000 16GB card is $1800. If my GPU budget was $1300, I would seriously consider saving the extra $500 for the 16GB RTX card.
Thanks everyone for their feedback. I'm going to spend a bit more time researching, but your feedback helps point me in the right direction.
I've recently read some 3rd party (so NOT nVidia's word) about the coming nVidia Ampere GPU 30XX series and the best value for money is if the 3rd party was right isd going to be the 3070 series of Ampere GPUs at sub $500. Those are supposed to give slightly better performance that the correct nVidia GEForce RTX 2080 TIs GPUs. Of course, they'll be a 3080 lines of GPUs as well.
Also, remember that DAZ 3D has unequivically stated they are working on integrating the Google Filament renderer into DAZ Studio so that would be a realtime renderer (so not quite 100% as nice as iRay or other by the books PBR renderers) so you'd think even if they have to contract out the integration to get it done in a timely manner the integration will be happening.
They've not announced but by their github page they at least indicate they'd like to build bridges to Blender, Unity, UE4, and probably Crytek, Lumberyard and the others. It's the most sunsible thing to do to make their huge library of models available to game maker and animation hobbyists.
I think it would be a big financial saving to wait at least for the November sales of computer components and computers to you though.