FE Girl's Bedroom
Jason Galterio
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Looking for a little guidance here as something is really confusing me...
I purchased https://www.daz3d.com/fe-girls-bedroom last month and today is the first time I broke it out to experiment with it.
One the first things I noticed is that it has a giant "mawa" across the wall behind the bed. No problem, I will just turn it off or delete it. No such luck, it's part of the overall mesh of the headboard to the bed. The only way to turn it off is by making the opacity 0% (which I was trying to avoid just because of the potential rendering time impact.
My first question is; why? I know this is a question for the designers, but why would you make a word an almost required part of the render?
The second question is; what is "mawa?" I've never heard of it used as a first name. I can find no reference to it being an abbreviation for anything. Nor can I find it as 'internet/texting' lingo.
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Moved to Art Studio as it is a non-techncial question about an existing product, not a Product Suggestion.
Thanks. I really wasn't sure where I should post it.
I believe both PAs are Chinese - or at the very least have a bit of a Sinophile streak - and it has no apparent meaning in Chinese, either.
I guess you could remove the mysterious mawa with the geometry editor if you wanted rid of it.
Also, maybe I'm taking "girl's bedroom" too literally, but why does a child's bedroom have a double bed?
I found two uses for "mawa." Neither seem likely though, and one of them is fairly distasteful.
I agree with the "child" impression. I was leaning more towards a teenager's bedroom. And even then there are a few additional things that I need to change.
There's a lot of little things that I need to change if I use it...
The shoes seem strangely large for teenager / child. And the right hand wall doesn't touch the floor, so something needs to be placed there to block the bleed.
Edited to show an example. Hopefully the creators will see this and be able to fix it.
You may want to submit a ticket to Customer Service, along with those pictures. That is the best way to get anything like this fixed when the PA may not be English fluent or frequent the forums.
Thanks. I did do that. Hopefully it can be fixed. I just did the math and realized that today is day 30 since when I bought it.
Looking at the style it has been written in, I would lean towards russian "маша", which according to Yandex translator means either Masha (name) or wave.
This might help you its a slang term used for
Quote "
beautiful drama queen
A very well seductive and stubborn women who attracts the hunks. Known to make men fall for her in a blink of an eye. A goddess in bed. Can make ice melt with her dazzling smile . A beautiful sexy drama queen. She is a sexy cutie and feisty when angry. You do not want to be on Mawa's bad side because she will turn your life upside down. She will keep you amazed by her beauty but has a low self-esteem and likes to cover up in neutral big baggy clothes. Mawa is also known to be naïve and clumsy but doesn't like to be talked about. She can turn milk in to ice by her stare and is known for her kindness and generosity.
Did you see Mawa
She has the best body
I wanna make love to Mawa
She needs to have a high self-esteem
Mawa touched me
Can she marry me
unquote
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mawa
I'm going to guess that's one of the meanings that the OP referred to as "distasteful" when referring to a set intended to be used as a child's or teen girl's room.
Good guess, but no... Not disagreeing that it isn't somewhat distasteful, and doesn't seem appropriate for a teenage girl's room...
I don't want to make it a mystery though, so: one of the first thing that came up when I searched was "make America white again."
I don't honestly think that that's what the artists had in mind, so this isn't a disrespect to them. However, more important is what the first thing a viewer will think. And I don't want there to be even a hint that that's the intention.
I don't know how prevelent that saying is, but I haven't seen "mawa" used anywhere.
The phrase appears promiently on two of the walls of the room and are part of the overall mesh. So it can't just be turned off or deleted. To make it disappear it has to have the opacity set as zero. On the surface that seems like an easy fix, except that there can be issues if the "invisible" mesh intersects with a visible one.
Those PAs strike me as particularly unlikely to endorse that message, but you never really know.
Not that this wouldn't also be potentially distasteful for a little girl's room, but can we just pretend that it's short for "mawwiage"?
I agree. I was hesitent to mention it because I really didn't think that was their intention. And I didn't want to sound like I was making that assumption.
However, the impression of the casual viewer of an image with that abbreviation is more my concern. I don't want to seem like I am promoting such a message. Nor do I want to have to explain that I'm not.
Well, I did open a ticket. I received a reply that the two issues were being looked into. The ticket is still open, but the item has disappeared from the store (along with a bunch of the other FE items). Not sure what all of that means.
I'm at a loss here...
I opened the ticket about this on June 18th. On June 23rd support got back to me and said they would look into it. Both the meaning / removal of the 'mawa' statement, as well as checking on the floors not touching the walls.
A couple of days later, the vendor's catalog is wiped from the site.
Support is telling me they have no idea if the item will be fixed and no idea why the other items were removed or if any of them will return. When I asked if the other removals were due to similar issues as the Bedroom, I got another "I don't know."
That certainly doesn't look like a young girl's bedroom. If anything, it looks like a couple's bedroom with a few child's props thrown in. Doesn't make much sense to me.
"Mawa" is Masha, aka familiar form of name Maria in russian.
Word "girl" is so confusing in english, btw, because it is used for so many different meanings. Maybe author of interior didn't understand well?
On a bonus thought, huge Teddy bears are not always a sign of children room. I mean, some women are very nostalgic or just don't mind those as interior part (though in such case usually very big sized toys, if i recall).
..anyway, was product just removed or redone?
As I said a few posts earlier... The font type is typical russian, and the russian letter "ш" in there never looked like a W to me or anyone else that has spent any time reading text in cyrillic letters.
Sorry, haven't seen ther you already posted.
Nothing to be sorry about, you just confirmed the message that I didn't get through the first time.
Regardless of what the text may or my not mean, or what it may or may not look like...
What's the logic in inserting any name into a model set / scene and then making unremovable? That just reduces the use drastically.
There was also the issue with the walls not touching the floors.
As far as I can tell the product wasn't altered and was just removed from the store.
I'm assuming that this is built for Iray.
Is the headboard with the lettering a separate material zone or just a part of the wall? If it's a separare matt zone, does Iray have anything like vertical offset?
I realize that it's probably not going to be that easy. You may need to take the image files into a raster image editor and edit the lettering out, which will be a pain because it's going to be in the bump, displace, normal images as well.
If it's a sepatate matt zone you could just slap a shader on it and that particfular problem will go away. Other problems will depend on whether the walls and floor are repositionable. I seem to recall these vendors producing something like vignette scenes which tend to be along the like of stick a character in it, light and render, rather than customizable sets. But I could be wrong.
If it's not a separate matt zone, take a look at it in wire texture shaded mode and see whether you can go at it with the geometry editor and make it a separate matt zone for the purpose of that render. It's easy enough to do. For that matter, if there is geometry in that lettering, you can select it in the geometry edition and hide it. Once hidden, you can delete it as well. But that won't solve the issue of it being in the texture. If it isn't a seperate matt zone -- which you say it isn't -- then it's probably done with displacement and no geometry is involved.
I returned the product for a refund, so I am going to need to go purely on memory.
I believe that the lettering was semi-extruded from the wall. It had its own material zone, which could be made invisible, but that presented new problems.
The first one was the potential for interaction between the invisible item and anything visible that I would have placed there. Not a common issue, but it has bit me in the past. I think, but I am not positive, that making the material zone invisible resulted in a hole in the wall. Again, I am going purely on memory.
[The interaction I am talking about happens when the invisible item, usually with a flat surface, perfectly intersects with another visible object. A checker board pattern can appear where the 'invisible' object's texture can bleed through. It doesn't happen often, as the two items have to be occupying the exact same space and have a wide flat area to be noticable. What I foresaw was the nature of this model made this more of a possibility if I placed a framed picture in the same spot or mantle, or such.]
Another problem was that the word is on the other wall too, making the work double.
The gap on the wall / floor was the final deal breaker. If I recall, this was an issue on the right side of the room (shown in the picture) as well as the left (not shown).
It just wasn't worth all the headache for what it cost.
Yeah, makes sense. Stuff that glitchy really ought to be caught in QA.
Admittedly I've not had the problem of invisible items intersecting with additional items, but so far I work almost exclusively in 3DL and this could be something peculiar to the way Iray handles suchn things. (I have recently had a problem where an item made invisible in the surfaces tab still had its reflections render in the final image, but going in and turning off the reflections fixed that.)