Need Advice on a New Desktop for Rendering
AyngelFlyingWestward
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I'm currently rendering on an Yoga Lenovo i7 laptop and I'm going to murder it if I keep pushing it the way I am. Since I'm finally getting the hang of DAZ and want to do a lot more, preferably in a lot less time, it's time for me to make an investment. I sure would appreciate some advice from you pros out there on what kind of system/specs I should be looking at. Right now, I'm looking at an ALIENWARE AURORA RYZEN™ EDITION R10 with the following specs:
- 64GB Dual Channel HyperX™ FURY DDR4 XMP at 2666MHz
- NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti 11GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)
- 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)
- AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900 (12-Core, 64MB L3 Cache, Max Boost Clock of 4.4GHz)
- Lunar Light chassis with High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply
Recommendations, thoughts, any feedback?
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What do you do? Unless you expect to drop back to RAM a lot in Iray, are doing 3Delight renders, or are using other software that makes heavy demands on the CPU then that CPU may be overkill (though scaling back wouldn't be enough to get a Titan RTX). I would suggest adding a mechanical HD for your content asd 2GB can run out quite quickly.
If the price doesn't bother you, that's a very nice machine. 2TB spinning rust for storage is a bit cheap in a machine of that class. 12 Cores won't be used by DAZ; 32GB is plenty unless you run two instances and Photoshop on top.
The only thing that really gets more out of DAZ is a 2nd video card. Not a fan of the "next thing around the corner" waiting game, but, investing in two 2080ti nearing the end of this generation would be... ambitious.
First don't buy from Dell, ever. No really ever.
Second the specs are way too much just for DS. If you're doing other things that need that kind of power go for it but for just DS you'd be fine with:
R5 3600
32 Gb of RAM
2080ti
Lots more storage. Get whatever size boot drive you want but then get a HDD in the 4+ Tb range.
For instance I configured a system with the above specs, and the 2080ti and 1000w PSU, on Originpc.com for $3405 which lookas like a savings of $250 and you'll have a much better quality system since all the Origin parts are name brand not the no name crud Dell will slap in.
I agree, I would absolutely need more HD space. The new computer would be mainly for rendering, maybe a littel modeling- if I decide to tackle the learning curve there-and perhaps some video editing. My laptop would then be dedicated to Photoshop and post-work. I thought about building it myself but I really don't have the time. This model got great reviews other than the noise. Quite a few complaints there.
It is a little pricer than I would like. Do you have a build that you would specifically recommend?
Will you build it yourself or are you strictly looking for aprebuilt? DIY you can get a very capable rig for $2500 not $3500. Or name a target budget and I'll spec out a system, within reason sub $1000 iRay renderinmg is pretty awful.
Are you a baller? If not you might want to wait for NVIDIA's new Ampere before splashing out on that 2080 Ti. If reports are true (don't quote me).
I've built a couple in the past but it has been more years than I care to admit- I don't even know if I remember how. Unless it's like riding a bike. Anyway, it would be great to find a pre-built/custom order (neither of which seems to completely offer up all those wishlist components (like extra storage) so I figure it needs to be upgradable. I'm willing to go as high as $4.5 k if needed but would preferr to keep it under $4k.
"Are you a baller?" I'm not really familiar with the term- unless it means do I have deep pockets? If so, then no, my pockets only have what I've saved for this specific purpose- so, limited pocket space here. Plus I've already dipped into the reserves to take advantage of some of the PC sales this month. Though my reserves are limited, I consider myself very fortunate, especially during these times, to even have any- I was able to keep working through this virus. Otherwise I'd be too damn scared to make this investment right now. If, by asking "are you a baller" you are asking if I am excellent, well no, I'm not that either. But I aspire to be. (I'm grinning really big as I say that). I did take a peek at the Ampere. Always bigger and better just around the corner right? Couldn't find any info on release soo... probably won't be waiting.
I pointed yopu to a quality PC at Origin PC.
Yes, it means do you have deep pockets.
For a DIY baseline... I recently built a new "sweet spot hot rod".
The expensive part was the benchmarking (tried out DAZ again just to *see* the 8 cores crunching numbers; loved iray; bought tons of daz stuff; then changed to an nVidia card and never sold the AMD...)
€550 PNY GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER V2 (550 isn't SO expensive that I cannot upgrade to the 3 series and sell it next year. It is close to the 2080 non-super. Note: for me, blower-style fan is so much better, no more case fans freaking out during long renders)
€300 Ryzen 3700X (8 cores close to AMD's max GHz)
€185 ASRock X570M Pro4 (I wanted mATX; option for 2 gfx cards would be good; nvme slot a must)
€150 32 GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT V2 DDR4-3200 CL16 (would take any brand name RAM with std speeds)
€190 Sabrent 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 (5GB/s SSD is f.a.s.t.)
€160 8TB disk
€70 Silverstone SST-ST50F-PB Strider Plus Bronze modular - 500 Watt (Silverstone good. 500 easily enough unless for these parts)
€90 any nice case (Silverstone good)
Total: about €1700 (I guess ~$1500 in the US without taxes)
Performance is probably close to the Dell; maybe feels even faster due to the hyper SSD. The significant difference for DAZ is the 2080ti; 11 vs 8 GB and maybe 3 vs 4 minutes render times.
Assembly is pretty easy these days. The hardest part was turning off the @#$ LED lights of the boxed CPU cooler. What a (censored).