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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    ro_danny_0999f772 said:

    thank you for all answer..

    if i have much money i buy recomandation but...for the moment i have an opportunity tu buy sh xeon....

    Model ThinkStation Lenovo P700

    Processor 2 x INTEL XEON E5 2650 V3 DECA CORE
    RAM 64 GB DDR4 ECC FB (8 gb x8 dimm)
    HDD 256 GB SSD
    GPU-RADEON RX 570 Series with 4gb

    and pay 960 usd.....

    I think change RAdeon with NVidia RTX 2080 with 8gb ...

    And buy for more memory....

    P700 have 12 slot dimm...so can add another 8gb x 4 pieces.....

    In final....is enough power for leraning daz3d and make animation 3d?

    Using Blender, Cinema 4d and other software?

    Buget for the moemnt is 1000 usd. and in few month adding and changeing components

    Sorry for my poor english...

     

    All recomandation offered in this forum are verry good but over my power.....

    So can tell me if this configuration for starting is ok?

    i thin can add more NVIDIA card after time....

    Mother board support up to 3 video card....

    BTW, for rendering can use different card or maybe all card could be same model?

    Can put RTX 2080 and GTX 1650 and GTX 1070i ? For example

    or need all card same model?

    You're spending a lot for it. That stuff isn't worth $500. 

    Stay away from old Xeon workstations unless you can get them dirt cheap. There's a reason people are dumping them right now. For that same $960 you can build a far more powerful system new.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760

    2000 - AMD - First to 1Ghz
    2001 - Intel - First 64 Bit CPU
    2001 - Intel - First to 2GHz
    2002 - Intel - First Hyperthreading
    2003 - AMD - First X86 compatible 64bit CPU
    2003 - AMD - First CPU with integrated memory controller 
    2004 - AMD - First Single Die Dual Core CPU
    2007 - AMD - First Single Die Quad Core CPU
    2010 - AMD - First Six Core Consumer CPU
    2011 - AMD - First APU
    2013 - AMD - First CPU with 5GHz boost clock
    2013 - AMD - First high performance APUs (PS4 and Xbox One)
    2017 - AMD - First True 8 Core Consumer CPU (FX 8 core is not a true 8 core)
    2019 - AMD - First PCIe 4.0 CPUs and Motherboards

  • RexRedRexRed Posts: 1,323
    edited November 2020

    Here is something to look at and I am sure the "uninformed" will be surprised... (but sill not care) lol

    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X/4071vs4044

    Intel wins in every matrix except "value and sentiment".

    A whopping 73 points go to pure hype. 

    10 Intel cores versus 12 Ryzen cores.

    I will say that "sentiment and value" will get you a bad cup of coffee. ROTFL  :)

    Which company can do more with less? That by definition is the true measure of "innovation".

    Hype is worthless and should not even be considered.

    Drooling fanboys do not a great product make.

     

    AMD 

    Hugely higher market share.

    Much more popular.

    Cheaper.

     

    Intel

    Better value

    (Do you know what better value means? It means that the extra you spend you make back over time.)

    Post edited by RexRed on
  • RexRedRexRed Posts: 1,323
    edited November 2020
    ro_danny_0999f772 said:

    thank you for all answer..

    if i have much money i buy recomandation but...for the moment i have an opportunity tu buy sh xeon....

    Model ThinkStation Lenovo P700

    Processor 2 x INTEL XEON E5 2650 V3 DECA CORE
    RAM 64 GB DDR4 ECC FB (8 gb x8 dimm)
    HDD 256 GB SSD
    GPU-RADEON RX 570 Series with 4gb

    and pay 960 usd.....

    I think change RAdeon with NVidia RTX 2080 with 8gb ...

    And buy for more memory....

    P700 have 12 slot dimm...so can add another 8gb x 4 pieces.....

    In final....is enough power for leraning daz3d and make animation 3d?

    Using Blender, Cinema 4d and other software?

    Buget for the moemnt is 1000 usd. and in few month adding and changeing components

    Sorry for my poor english...

     

    All recomandation offered in this forum are verry good but over my power.....

    So can tell me if this configuration for starting is ok?

    i thin can add more NVIDIA card after time....

    Mother board support up to 3 video card....

    BTW, for rendering can use different card or maybe all card could be same model?

    Can put RTX 2080 and GTX 1650 and GTX 1070i ? For example

    or need all card same model?

    I agree with Richard to definitly go with an Nvidia card

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/workstation/thinkstation/thinkstation-p-series/ThinkStation-P700/p/33TS3TPP700

    This seems like a really good workstation and it is worth $960 used.

    It seems it has 40 lanes per core a good buy.

    You might have to upgrade the power supply for more than one graphics card.

    Some motherboards have proprietary power supplies..

     

    Post edited by RexRed on
  • RexRedRexRed Posts: 1,323
    edited November 2020
    JamesJAB said:

    2000 - AMD - First to 1Ghz
    2001 - Intel - First 64 Bit CPU
    2001 - Intel - First to 2GHz
    2002 - Intel - First Hyperthreading
    2003 - AMD - First X86 compatible 64bit CPU
    2003 - AMD - First CPU with integrated memory controller 
    2004 - AMD - First Single Die Dual Core CPU
    2007 - AMD - First Single Die Quad Core CPU
    2010 - AMD - First Six Core Consumer CPU
    2011 - AMD - First APU
    2013 - AMD - First CPU with 5GHz boost clock
    2013 - AMD - First high performance APUs (PS4 and Xbox One)
    2017 - AMD - First True 8 Core Consumer CPU (FX 8 core is not a true 8 core)
    2019 - AMD - First PCIe 4.0 CPUs and Motherboards

    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10980XE-vs-AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3990X-64-Core/m935899vsm1270634

     

    Intel's 18 cores versus AMD's 64 cores

    AMD's 64 cores (Hugely more recent)

    Intel

    Best Bench: 96% Base clock 3 GHz, turbo 5.1 GHz (avg)
    Worst Bench: 75% Base clock 3 GHz, turbo 3 GHz (avg)

     

    AMD

    Best Bench: 87% Base clock 2.9 GHz, turbo 2.9 GHz (avg)
    Worst Bench: 79% Base clock 2.9 GHz, turbo 2.9 GHz (avg)

     

    Price

    Intel  $817.00

    https://smile.amazon.com/Intel-i9-10980XE-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B07YP6D8RK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=core+i9+10980xe&qid=1604476949&sr=8-2

     

    AMD $3844.99

    https://smile.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3990X-128-Thread/dp/B0815SBQ9W/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=64+core+threadripper&qid=1604477036&sr=8-2

     

    Comment: It seems AMD has built 64 tricycles versus Intel’s 18 supersonic jets... (But the price has been switched too)

    Yea, AMD was the first to make a 64 core cpu. lol 

    And now AMD has stopped racing to make weak CPUs and they are copying Intel and trying to make better single core performance.

    Now that is a novel idea,  ...and how about better overclock speeds too? lol

     

    Oh, and there is this:

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-of-a-boost-did-AMD-get-when-it-copied-Intels-processors

    and this

    https://www.techspot.com/news/86300-amd-new-patent-awkward-copy-intel-lakefield-architecture.html

    Post edited by RexRed on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,765

    Since this has been turned into a platform war it has been locked.

This discussion has been closed.