Stuff I would really like to know.

graham.dougcgraham.dougc Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in New Users

I have looked, watched, read and listened to everything I come across about RENDERING. But nowhere have I read what its for or what is the purpose of it. Can you only render scenes? Or can you render video of action?
I just went through the DAZ thing of The Barefoot Dancer and then "rendered" it. What is the difference in that rendered picture than a jpeg or any other picture file?

Thanks if you can enlighten me.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,298
    edited December 1969

    Yes you can render animation. Check out DAZ's channel on youtube. There are tons of video there.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
    edited December 1969

    an animation is a series of images, jpegs or other
    an avi video is just a container for these image files
    to render an animation you set a series of events along the timeline and render each frame
    this can be poses, walk cycles, camera moves object translations whatever.
    Daz will tween between poses, camera moves etc, that is create intermediate frames between you doing one thing on timeline and another further down
    say Genesis raising an arm or a camera in two positions
    you then in render setting choose image series or avi, set number of frames and create a filename in a folder to save to and render it

  • graham.dougcgraham.dougc Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    It took quite awhile to render the dancer. That was one frome. Maybe ten minutes.
    So the frame rate is 24 to 30 per second and you have a thirty minute movie.
    Are you saying that AVI is rendering?
    If rendering is one frame at a time I would be doing the 30 minute movie into 2015.
    If AVI is not rendering what would be the advantage of rendering?

    I really appreciate the information.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
    edited December 1969

    yes people take days to render short animations
    and image series is safer than avi
    you can lower settings less lights, no sets just background pics etc to speed it up
    personally I do not bother rendering animations in Daz studio
    I use other software such as carrara and iclone

  • graham.dougcgraham.dougc Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    How are they different than AVI or MP4?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
    edited December 1969

    smaller file size with better quality
    also if something goes wrong you still have the images you rendered so far
    avi render crash you lose the lot.
    open an image series in virtualdub by loading first one (or something like Sony Vegas, Hitfilm, Adobe etc for example) and save as avi after is the safer workflow

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    From a quick Google search you would see that the word "render" is not exclusive to the world of 3D. See; definition 3. COMPUTING

    rend·er
    ˈrendər/Submit
    verb
    1.
    provide or give (a service, help, etc.). "money serves as a reward for services rendered"
    synonyms: give, provide, supply, furnish, contribute; More
    submit or present for inspection or consideration. "he would render income tax returns at the end of the year"
    synonyms: send in, present, submit More

    literary
    hand over. "he will render up his immortal soul"
    deliver (a verdict or judgment). "the jury's finding amounted to the clearest verdict yet rendered upon the scandal"
    synonyms: deliver, return, hand down, give, announce More

    2.
    cause to be or become; make. "the rains rendered his escape impossible"
    synonyms: make, cause to be/become, leave More

    3.
    represent or depict artistically. "the eyes and the cheeks are exceptionally well rendered"
    synonyms: paint, draw, depict, portray, represent, execute
    translate. "the phrase was rendered into English"
    synonyms: translate, put, express, rephrase, reword More
    MUSIC
    perform (a piece). "a soprano solo reverently rendered by Linda Howie"
    synonyms: act, perform, play, depict, interpret More
    COMPUTING
    process (an outline image) using color and shading in order to make it appear solid and three-dimensional.

    4.
    covertly send (a foreign criminal or terrorist suspect) for interrogation abroad; subject to extraordinary rendition.

    5.
    melt down (fat). "the fat was being cut up and rendered for lard"
    synonyms: melt down, clarify More
    process (the carcass of an animal) in order to extract proteins, fats, and other usable parts. "the rendered down remains of sheep"

    6.
    cover (stone or brick) with a coat of plaster. "external walls will be rendered and tiled"
    noun
    noun: render; plural noun: renders

    1.
    a first coat of plaster applied to a brick or stone surface.

    Origin
    late Middle English: from Old French rendre, from an alteration of Latin reddere ‘give back,’ from re- ‘back’ + dare ‘give.’ The earliest senses were ‘recite,’ ‘translate,’ and ‘give back’ (hence ‘represent’ and ‘perform’); ‘hand over’ (hence ‘give (help)’ and ‘submit for consideration’); ‘cause to be’; and ‘melt down.’
    Translate render to
    Use over time for: render

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    jestmart, you have WAAAAAAAY too much time on your hands!

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,344
    edited April 2014

    What is the purpose of rendering scenes? I think for most of us, the art is its own purpose. (Or "illustrations" or "pictures," if you prefer.) If you're looking for a more practical purpose, some people sell their work or do commissions for things like book covers. Some use them in comics or games or other media.

    See here for more information on how people use DAZ Studio renders.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,298
    edited December 1969

    I don't get hardly any time to do a fun render. Only renders I ever get to do are promos. Not quite the same as a leisure render. I sell environments so very rarely are figures used in the scene.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited April 2014

    In 3D language Render is the method to go FROM scene File in the Viewport or load file to the Image format of your choice, GIF, JPG, PNG or other. All Video's be they AVI, MPG, TV, Major Motion Picture or other are created from a series of Image files strung together to be viewed at a steady frame rate ranging from 24 Fps, Frames Per Second, to 30 Fps depending on the type of images and resolution of those Images.

    The Speed of Rendering is determined in DAZ Studio by the Computers Processing Unit or CPU and the amount of RAM, Ramdom Access Memory, free RAM and speed of the RAM. It is also effected by the Read/Write speed of the Medium the File or Frames are saved to, be that a Hard Drive device or other. A Single user on a single Computer is looking at a very long creation time for a thirty minute Animation, this one I personally know as I am in the process of doing just that myself. I have the benefit of a powerful Computer designed just for this task, it is still going to be a long process to get to my goal.

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  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited December 1969

    Love this defn: a first coat of plaster applied to a brick or stone surface. lol ...

    Read of one production film that was using computer graphics ... took months to render the set of large images.

    I also prefer rendering to stills first and then compiling them in a dedicated program for making movies. Can add more sound tracks and special effects, title frames, etc.

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    edited December 1969

    Love this defn: a first coat of plaster applied to a brick or stone surface. lol ...

    Read of one production film that was using computer graphics ... took months to render the set of large images.

    I also prefer rendering to stills first and then compiling them in a dedicated program for making movies. Can add more sound tracks and special effects, title frames, etc.


    Indeed, and much easier to go back and tweak one or two frames when they are separate images than when they are all 'glued' up in an avi :)
  • graham.dougcgraham.dougc Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Since I have you all here maybe you can tell me how to fix this problem, if it is a problem. I may just didn't do something I was supposed to do.

    In DAZ Studio 4.6 I have nothing showing in the presets and editor window except what I am sending as an attachment.

    How do I get the stuff in this side of the screen. The other side (right) has all the stuff I have downloaded.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,298
    edited December 1969

    People are trying to help you in the thread you started. Please don't ask the same thing in several threads. It only gets confusing.

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Since I have you all here maybe you can tell me how to fix this problem, if it is a problem. I may just didn't do something I was supposed to do.

    In DAZ Studio 4.6 I have nothing showing in the presets and editor window except what I am sending as an attachment.

    How do I get the stuff in this side of the screen. The other side (right) has all the stuff I have downloaded.

    What you are looking at is the Surfaces tab. This will only show you the material presets for a given object or surface, and won't show anything else. If you click on the Editor option you can see all of the surface information so you can make alterations to how an object will appear.

    The Smart Content tab will contain your products, generally speaking, and it automatically changes depending on what items you have selected to give you materials and objects which are compatible with the selected item.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    Love this defn: a first coat of plaster applied to a brick or stone surface. lol ...

    Read of one production film that was using computer graphics ... took months to render the set of large images.

    I also prefer rendering to stills first and then compiling them in a dedicated program for making movies. Can add more sound tracks and special effects, title frames, etc.


    Indeed, and much easier to go back and tweak one or two frames when they are separate images than when they are all 'glued' up in an avi :)

    Sure is. I don't recall its name right now, but back in the days of XP, there was a little program somebody had put together and was selling which would "unglue" all the images. Rather doubt it would handle major films but it could convert some type of .avi somebody mailed to me from Africa into something I could view in N.A. and put it into images so I could remake the film.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    Love this defn: a first coat of plaster applied to a brick or stone surface. lol ...

    Read of one production film that was using computer graphics ... took months to render the set of large images.

    I also prefer rendering to stills first and then compiling them in a dedicated program for making movies. Can add more sound tracks and special effects, title frames, etc.


    Indeed, and much easier to go back and tweak one or two frames when they are separate images than when they are all 'glued' up in an avi :)

    Sure is. I don't recall its name right now, but back in the days of XP, there was a little program somebody had put together and was selling which would "unglue" all the images. Rather doubt it would handle major films but it could convert some type of .avi somebody mailed to me from Africa into something I could view in N.A. and put it into images so I could remake the film.I had that as well, there was even a Pro version of it for a little time, just did more formats if I remember correctly. I so miss that thing.

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