DIM has gone loopy. Again.

Trying to download and install a recent update to a product, four times DIM has hung, with an endlessly spinning beachball (Mac), and the system reporting DIM as "Unresponsive." I tried uninstalling the product, thinking maybe it would work just to reinstall it, which would include the update (I think, hope). DIM hung again, endlessly spinning. Had to force quit.

I finally just did a "Download" and manual install. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with the "Manifest.dsx" and the "Supplement.dsx" files that came in the zip file, and only can hope it will work now.

I know, I know: file a ticket. I may at some point. Right now I'm too fed up with the whole mess.

Comments

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    You can put the downloaded files in your DIM download folder (Package Archive), refresh DIM, and install as usual, if it isn't a permission problem. The manifest.dsx file is what DIM uses to install the files. Supplement.dsx has product info, install type, and software version compatibility, info used by DIM.

  • mavantemavante Posts: 734
    NorthOf45 said:

    You can put the downloaded files in your DIM download folder (Package Archive), refresh DIM, and install as usual, if it isn't a permission problem.

    Nothing at all has changed on my computer since the last time I used DIM that could cause any kind of permission problem. I just manually installed it.

    NorthOf45 said:
    The manifest.dsx file is what DIM uses to install the files. Supplement.dsx has product info, install type, and software version compatibility, info used by DIM.

    Thanks for that info, but I wasn't clear: I don't know what to do with them. If anything.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485
    edited March 2020

    You shouldn't have to do anything. DIM uses them. The manifest is processed when installing. It is basically a list of files, what type of file (Content, Application) and where to find them. The supplement is used by DIM to determine what kind of files are being installed (content, software, plugins, etc.), which version of Studio the product is compatible with (for the download filters, I believe, i.e., DAZ Studio 4.5+, DAZ Studio 3, DSON Importer for Poser, etc.), and the name of the product displayed in DIM. If you install with DIM, all that info is taken into consideration and you never have to worry about it.

    And, the site has been sluggish today, often timing out just browsing and reading the forums. More volume, I guess, what with no one leaving the house, and a big MM catchup sale.

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  • mavantemavante Posts: 734
    edited March 2020
    NorthOf45 said:

    You shouldn't have to do anything. DIM uses them. The manifest is processed when installing. It is basically a list of files, what type of file (Content, Application) and where to find them. The supplement is used by DIM to determine what kind of files are being installed (content, software, plugins, etc.), which version of Studio the product is compatible with (for the download filters, I believe, i.e., DAZ Studio 4.5+, DAZ Studio 3, DSON Importer for Poser, etc.), and the name of the product displayed in DIM. If you install with DIM, all that info is taken into consideration and you never have to worry about it.

    North, I really, really, sincerely appreciate your trying to help me (even though I'm from the South, and, well, you know ...), but I swear on my mother's grave, you could write a 14-volume encyclopedic masterwork on what those files are for, and how DIM and DS use them, and how to interpret them into Sanskrit, and none of it would do me the least particle of good if you have never manually installed a Daz Studio product on a Mac, because otherwise you simply will not ever be able to understand what I'm talking about when I say I don't know what to do with them.

    Neither DIM nor DS ever have an opportunity to get anywhere near them, or even to know they exist, because I download the zip file to my system hard drive, and then I unzip that zip file into a folder of my choosing (not any folder that any Daz application has anything to do with, or ever is even vaguely aware of), and then I copy the enclosed folders that are inside a "Content" folder (e.g., Data, People, Runtime, etc.) into my primary Daz content folder that I have pointed Daz Studio's nose to. And when I do that, I have two files sitting in the unzipped folder that I manually downloaded from Daz. And you know what they are named? Exactly? They are exactly named this: "Manifest.dsx" and "Supplement.dsx."

    And at the risk of repeating myself: I don't know what to do with them.

    I have resolved this angst, though, by dropping them into the trash and flushing it. (I know, mixed metaphor, but it's late.)

     

     

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  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,077
    edited March 2020

    @mavante

    DAZ was really slow yesterday. May be today (3/29, 0511 CDT) but I haven't checked. Internet usage is high because of COVID-19 so service may be slow and spotty. These are diffrent times. Patience in all things.

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,691
    mavante said:

    And at the risk of repeating myself: I don't know what to do with them.

    Nothing. These files are instructions for DIM, you don't need them if you don't install with DIM. You can delete them.

  • mavantemavante Posts: 734
    Leana said:
    mavante said:

    And at the risk of repeating myself: I don't know what to do with them.

    Nothing. These files are instructions for DIM, you don't need them if you don't install with DIM. You can delete them.

    Thank you, Leana, for a sequitur reply to the question I asked. That's exactly what I did.

    Thanks to the others who acknowledged that things were slow in Daznet Land at relevant times. I hope that gets better, for everyone's sake.

     

  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153
    Leana said:
    mavante said:

    And at the risk of repeating myself: I don't know what to do with them.

    Nothing. These files are instructions for DIM, you don't need them if you don't install with DIM. You can delete them.

    Not quite.  DIM uses those files for various things, one being an indicator of the file being D/L'ed & installed.  If you delete them, the product will show up in the Ready to Download tab.

    Which is one way of assuring getting the most recent product update, & sounds as if that resolved the issue.

     

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    Oh-h, don't confuse the manifest.dsx inside the package with the manifest created on download (in the Package Archive when using DIM, used to verify download status), or the manifest created on installation (in the Manifest Archive when installing with DIM, to document installation). These last two unfortunately have the same name (same as the package) and extension (.dsx), but serve different purposes. If downloading and manually installing outside of DIM, you get neither of those two, so it's a moot point.

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