Need advice on pc for 3Delight
moi9lwik
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Hello, I need advice on a new pc build for rendering in 3dl.
As my budget is quite limited i'm thinking about something like that:
CPU: Threadripper 1920X
(looks like a good choise, but considering it requires pricey motherboards i'm not so sure)
Motherboard: ASRock X399 Taichi ATX TR4
(don't have any idea which one of these x399 boards will be better)
GPU: GTX 1060 6GB
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (1 x 16 GB)
(or will it be better to take 2 x 8 GB?)
Cooler: Wraith Ripper 76.4 CFM
(i guess it will be enough to save cpu from overheating, though i will not overclocking cpu anyway)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850 W 80+ Gold
(not sure about manufacturers, not sure about that wattage)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower
(don't have any idea how to choose case with good airflow)
So, does that build makes any sense?
Considering my budget i will be really glad to buy something cheaper, but i fear of long render times.
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Bare in mind that 3DL only uses your CPU for rendering. Can't help with the details, as I'm a Mac user;)
I know, thats why i'm looking for something like that x1920 in spite of its kind of pricey for my budget
Probably should also mention i have some experience with 3dl already, if it's important.
I'm not the best one to talk about how to save money. My last rebuild 3 years ago cost me over $5,000. I don't rebuild often so that machine is still performing really well 3 years later. But I've looked at what you have here and have some comments.
General comment on 3DL: For 3Delight you definitely want as many CPU cores running as fast as you can get them going. While the main Studio application is largely single threaded, 3Delight will spawn different threads for each core that you have. Back when I was using 3Delight exclusively, I saw a huge jump going from 4 to 8 cores even though the single core speed (in my case) was slower. 3Delight is really good at dividing the work and letting different buckets of the render be processed independently. It even recognizes hyperthreading although the boost isn't as great as actual physical cores, I still ran with HT turned on and saw improvements.
I'm more of an Intel guy myself, but the CPU and motherboard seem like good choices. That CPU with 12 cores / 24 threads, should be great for 3Delight rendering. Personally, every time I rebuild, one of my most expensive parts is my motherboard, becuase I figure that gives me the best "future proofing" to allow for upgrades before my MB is obsolete. You didn't mention hard drives; so I assume you're moving your HDs from your current machine to this one. But the 2x M.2 ports is very nice too. I put an M.2 SSD into my current system as the system drive and that sucker FLIES!
I love Cooler Master (both for cases and cooling) so I think your CPU cooler is a good choice. I've used their CPU coolers in the past and they're always very good at keeping the temps down.
For the RAM, with that motherboard (which is quad channel for memory access), I would actually go with 4x4GB to get your 16. I usually try to max out my channels first before going to bigger chips as it gives more bandwidth for memory transfers. You'll just need to pay attention to how the 8 RAM slots are paired into channels to make sure you're getting the best use of all those memory lanes. Otherwise you could end up only using 2 of them with the 4 sticks.
On the case, I think the overall design is good, but I feel like it's a little light in terms of the included fans. Since the top is already open anyway, I might consider adding something like this to the top of the case to lift more air out: Cooler Master MasterFan SF360R
Some things, the low core count TR's are effectively obsolete. You'd be far better off with a 3900X and X570 mobo rather than a 1920X and x399. You might get the TR rig for a little less due to the higher cost CPU but the performance difference would be substantial.
TR has quad channel memory controllers. Only using 1 stick of RAM, and therefore forcing the CPU into single channel, effectively cuts memory bandwidth to 1/4 which will definitely impact peformance. You'd be far better off with 4x4Gb sticks than 1x16.
I(f you're not going to OC a TR CPU any TR4 compatible cooler should work just fine. Wraith Ripper is just about the most expensive air cooler for the socket. This would be a better option:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835856115
The PSU should be sufficient and have headroom for later expansion if you want to add drives or a GPU to do Iray rendering.
You don't need a full tower for the amount of hardware you intend to put in it unless you plan to put a bunch of drives in it or something. The Enthoo Pro is an older case and has lots of internal and external drive bays which will block the intake fans and limit you to having only 2x 120's in front. If you drop down to a mid tower case there are a lot of newer options at around $100, with things like USB 3 and even USB C on the front panel as well as better air flow.
If you'll post your budget and what parts you already have I can see what I can put together that fits your needs and post a link to the parts list here.
Definitely will add something like that on top
And i'll take 4x4GB RAM.
1000-1500$ and SSD
3900X looks like overkill, i will not render that much, and will not render too complex scenes.
Actually i have a doubts even about 1920x, since i have no idea how long it will take to render a scene.
For example 1-2 genesis 8 models with clothes, SSS, AO, some reflections and few props like trees or glass windows.
3900X and 1920X have the same core and thread counts, both are 12 cores and 24 threads.
In 3Delight the more processing power the faster you'll render. Generally speaking a better CPU will also speed up other tasks so a good CPU is always a good thing.
I'm assuming you have an SSD big enough for your OS and programs, a 240Gb or larger, as well as keyboard, mouse, monitor and a windows license.
This system comes out to just over $1100 US, price will vary over time as components go on and off sale but it should be pretty close to this price for a while. It has plenty of room for expansion and you could easily fit a better GPU in it now or later if you choose to start working in Iray.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/kbs666/saved/#view=DnWykL
Just watched many performance reviews and benchmark comparisons. Now i have even more doubts.
3900x definetly will be overkill for me, 1920x with that pricey x399 probably will be overkill too
3700x looks good but i can take 2700x + b450 for same price
Based on benchmark comparisons 3700x will be about 10-15% faster than 2700x
Not sure these 15% worth it, and 2700x looks really great for its price
Also it looks like 4x4gb RAM might be a little insufficient, so i guess i should take 4x8gb
Are you a hobbyist or are you creating renders to make money? If this is a hobby a 2700 or 2600 would be fine, you could let big renders run overnight. If you make a living, or side money, from DS then you should decide how much more you'll make with more renders per day.
Looks like best option сonsidering price\performance
So, probably will take this:
2700x
Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING
Kingston 32Gb (4x8Gb) 2666MHz cl13
Palit gtx 1060 6GB
Seasonic 850W Focus Plus Gold
cooler: DARK ROCK 4
case: Thermaltake Suppressor F31 TG Mid Tower
If 3Delight is your render engine ignore any benchamrks that you see out there for gaming productivity and rendering... unless it is a 3Delight benchmark.
3Delight divides the render in to what are called buckets. Then every single thread grabs a bucket and starts rendering. Clock speed and IPC are less important than number of threads. (unless you are looking at something like AMD's previous FX architecture with horible IPC numbers)
More threads make a very linear performance increase in 3Delight.
Here is a quick and dirty theoretical performance example assuming identical clock speeds and IPC.
Lets say your render is divided into 800 buckets, and each bucket takes about 1 minute to render.
Ryzen 3 3200G 4 cores / 4 threads = 200 minutes
Ryzen 5 3400G 4 cores / 8 threads = 100 minutes
Ryzen 5 3600 6 cores / 12 threads = 75 minutes
Ryzen 7 3700 8 cores / 16 threads = 50 minutes
Ryzen 9 3900 12 cores / 24 threads = 37.5 minutes
Ryzen 9 3950 16 cores / 32 threads = 25 minutes
Threadripper 2970WX 24 cores / 48 threads = 18.75 minutes
Threadripper 2990WX 32 cores / 64 threads = 12.5 minutes
Keep in mind though, the Threadripper 2XXX and Ryzen XXXXG are based on Zen+ not Zen 2, so real world each bucket may be more like 1.15 minutes.
The original Zen core based Threadripper 1920X that you are looking at may be more like 1.25 minutes per bucket
In that case the added cost of the threadripper motherboard and cooler make the argument for a Ryzen 9 3900 much better looking because of the increased IPC and clock speed
Save some money, get the 2700 rather than the 2700x. It comes with a cooler, costs a little less and is essentially the same CPU. You can use the money you saved from the CPU and not buying a seperate cooler to get faster RAM. Ryzen chips benefit greatly from faster RAM, up to a point so don't go above like 3200Mhz. Also you need to check your motherboards qualified vender list to be sure that the RAM you want works on that board. You can certasinly get a 32Gb kit for a decent price right now even if you need to go to a "better" brand like Corsair.
Just go for the CPU with the biggest core count. nothing else matters at all.
So your choice seems to be pretty adequate.
If you have a very limited budget you can even consider buying some kind dirt-cheap old Xeon based server system with multiple CPUs reaching 32 cores as a bonus you can fill with cheap server ECC memory.
this system will beat the most of expensive modern systems on 3delight rendering, but they will be pretty slow for general use and it will take decent skill to build it.
However, if you set proper lighting, 3deligt is kinda very fast by itself and rendering takes just about 3 minutes or less to render a picture on 3.6ghz 4 core CPU.
Those dirt cheap Xeons are 2Ghz or slower and the ones that have massive core counts are pretty hard to get. You're going to be looking, if you can find one, at a dual core rack with maybe a pair of 12 core Xeon E5's. That would get absolutely crushed by a Ryzen 3900. Double the clock speed and a significant IPC boost do actually matter.
Kann mir jemand sagen ob die 3Delight Renderengine mit der neuen AMD threadripper Generatin 5, 7980X funktioniert