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Building a computer for DAZ3D

emilygroomemilygroom Posts: 11
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

Hi!

I am looking to build a custom computer for daz3d rendering of both images and animations.

I am looking for a budget of around £2000-£2500.

Would you be able to let me know the best specs such as CPU, motherboards etc. I would be looking to use this website: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk - so if possible would you be able to build a computer using the specs they provide?

The BIGGEST question is how fast should I expect rendering times to be on a custom built computer?

Thank you.

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    Right out of their configurator:

    Ryzen 5 3600

    Asus TUF  X-470 gaming Plus

    32 Gb corsair Vengeance DDR4 2933MHZ (4x8Gb)

    RTX 2080ti the site doesn't list brands or models.

    960 Gb ADATA Su630 2.5"SSD

    8Gb Seagate Baracuda 3.5" HDD

    Corsair modular 850W 80 Plus Gold power supply (make sure they include all the cables that come with the PSU but aren't used. You might need them later)

    Windows 10 Pro

    All other selections at default. Comes to 2,167 with VAT.

    That should domost renders very fast indeed and the rig should last a long time so you copuld upgrade the GPU or add a second without an issue.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    As this thread has a reply I have left it removed the other two dupes that you posted,   Please do not post duplicate threads in different forums.

    As regards PC specialist   I thoroughjly recommend them.  I have had my last  3 computers built by them, this current one was built in  2014  and has only had the case opened for cleaning.  Has never gone wrong. None of my PCs from PC specialist have ever actually had any problems.   They are great people to deal with. 

     

     

  • emilygroomemilygroom Posts: 11
    kenshaw011267 said:

    Right out of their configurator:

    Ryzen 5 3600

    Asus TUF  X-470 gaming Plus

    32 Gb corsair Vengeance DDR4 2933MHZ (4x8Gb)

    RTX 2080ti the site doesn't list brands or models.

    960 Gb ADATA Su630 2.5"SSD

    8Gb Seagate Baracuda 3.5" HDD

    Corsair modular 850W 80 Plus Gold power supply (make sure they include all the cables that come with the PSU but aren't used. You might need them later)

    Windows 10 Pro

    All other selections at default. Comes to 2,167 with VAT.

    That should domost renders very fast indeed and the rig should last a long time so you copuld upgrade the GPU or add a second without an issue.

    Amazing!! Thank you very much. When you say 'very fast' would you be able to give an example of how fast a 4k image would take?

    Thanks again for the info

  • emilygroomemilygroom Posts: 11

    Please could you share your thoughts on this build - is there anything I need / don't need? 

    How fast should my rendering times be?

     

    Case - COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P RGB GAMING CASE

    Processor (CPU) - AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.35GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)

    Motherboard - Gigabyte X470 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready

    Memory (RAM) - 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2933MHz ~ (4 x 8GB)

    Graphics Card - 11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

    1st Storage Drive - 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 2.5" SSD, (upto 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)

    DVD/BLU-RAY Drive - NOT REQUIRED

    Memory Card Reader - USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER

    Power Supply - CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

    Power Cable - 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

    Processor Cooling - Corsair H80i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans

    Thermal Paste - STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

    Sound Card - Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy™ FX OEM

    Wireless/Wired Networking - WIRELESS 802.11 AC1900 1,300Mbps/5GHz, 600Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

    USB/Thunderbolt Options - MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

    Operating System - Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

    Operating System Language - United Kingdom - English Language

    Windows Recovery Media - Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account

    Office Software - FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)

    Anti-Virus -BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode

    Browser - Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)

     

     

  • mwasielewski1990mwasielewski1990 Posts: 330

    Gosh, I made an almost identical thread (sorry guys). I'd also like to know if this setup is OK, only that I'm thinking of 2070 rather than 2080ti (budget, sadly.)

    Also, are Noctua coolers better than CoolerMaster?

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    No one can state with any certainty how fast a render will be. 

    As to the proposed build, you need a second HDD for storing 3d Assets. If you get very many 1 Tb will not be nearly enough.

    A 650W PSU is far too small for comfort. Get an 850W with a good 80 plus rating.

    You do not need any sort of add on cooler that costs anything. Go back to the R5 3600 and you get an included cooler and the R5 outperforms the 2700X in every conceivable way.

    I'm not a particularly big fan of the MasterBox. The front is glass which blocks the fans from drawing air. They only get air through the side vents. All the cases the site sells seem questionable, and out of date, but maybe there is one that has a mesh front.

    Do you really need a SD card reader? If you do buy one from somewhere else. They are almost certainly overcharging for it.

  • mwasielewski1990mwasielewski1990 Posts: 330
    kenshaw011267 said:

    No one can state with any certainty how fast a render will be. 

    As to the proposed build, you need a second HDD for storing 3d Assets. If you get very many 1 Tb will not be nearly enough.

    A 650W PSU is far too small for comfort. Get an 850W with a good 80 plus rating.

    You do not need any sort of add on cooler that costs anything. Go back to the R5 3600 and you get an included cooler and the R5 outperforms the 2700X in every conceivable way.

    I'm not a particularly big fan of the MasterBox. The front is glass which blocks the fans from drawing air. They only get air through the side vents. All the cases the site sells seem questionable, and out of date, but maybe there is one that has a mesh front.

    Do you really need a SD card reader? If you do buy one from somewhere else. They are almost certainly overcharging for it.

    Can you elaborate more on R5 outperforming R7? How's 6 cores better than 8 with the same clock speed?

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    edited July 2019

    2700X is last generation. 3600 is this generation.

    This article contains many benchmarks of the 3600 with the 2700X results included for comparison. 

    https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

    The two chips are roughly comparable and you get the free cooler with the 3600. If you were getting the 2700 rather than the 2700X for the same cost as the 3600 then I would say get the 2700, as it also includes the free cooler. But I simply see no point in spending substantially more for the same performance.

    Post edited by kenshaw011267 on
  • emilygroomemilygroom Posts: 11
    kenshaw011267 said:

    No one can state with any certainty how fast a render will be. 

    As to the proposed build, you need a second HDD for storing 3d Assets. If you get very many 1 Tb will not be nearly enough.

    A 650W PSU is far too small for comfort. Get an 850W with a good 80 plus rating.

    You do not need any sort of add on cooler that costs anything. Go back to the R5 3600 and you get an included cooler and the R5 outperforms the 2700X in every conceivable way.

    I'm not a particularly big fan of the MasterBox. The front is glass which blocks the fans from drawing air. They only get air through the side vents. All the cases the site sells seem questionable, and out of date, but maybe there is one that has a mesh front.

    Do you really need a SD card reader? If you do buy one from somewhere else. They are almost certainly overcharging for it.

    Taken your very good tips into account for the order - would I need a second graphics card or is one good enough?

    I have updated the hard drives - what do you think to this?

    Graphics Card - 11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

    1st Storage Drive - 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 2.5" SSD, (upto 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)

    2nd Storage Drive - 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

  • mwasielewski1990mwasielewski1990 Posts: 330
    edited July 2019
    kenshaw011267 said:

    2700X is last generation. 3600 is this generation.

    This article contains many benchmarks of the 3600 with the 2700X results included for comparison. 

    https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

    The two chips are roughly comparable and you get the free cooler with the 3600. If you were getting the 2700 rather than the 2700X for the same cost as the 3600 then I would say get the 2700, as it also includes the free cooler. But I simply see no point in spending substantially more for the same performance.

    Ok, now I see your point, but the price difference between 3600 and 2700X seems almost nonexistent... Other question, is the stock 3600 cooler durable? I heard some bad things about the stock coolers, everyone seems to be recommending swaping to coolermaster or noctua anyway

    EDIT: i also noticed on amazon that Threadripper 1900X has amost the same price tag as 2700X. Is it worth it?

    Post edited by mwasielewski1990 on
  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    I'd get the system and see how it does what you want. If you really need more power you could buy and add a second card very easily.

    Stick with a reasonable sized SSD for your boot drive, a 1Tb or even a 500Gb one is fine. Then get the 2 Tb or larger for assets. A 2Tb SSD is pretty pricey.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    mwasielewski1990 said:
    kenshaw011267 said:

    2700X is last generation. 3600 is this generation.

    This article contains many benchmarks of the 3600 with the 2700X results included for comparison. 

    https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

    The two chips are roughly comparable and you get the free cooler with the 3600. If you were getting the 2700 rather than the 2700X for the same cost as the 3600 then I would say get the 2700, as it also includes the free cooler. But I simply see no point in spending substantially more for the same performance.

    Ok, now I see your point, but the price difference between 3600 and 2700X seems almost nonexistent... Other question, is the stock 3600 cooler durable? I heard some bad things about the stock coolers, everyone seems to be recommending swaping to coolermaster or noctua anyway

    EDIT: i also noticed on amazon that Threadripper 1900X has amost the same price tag as 2700X. Is it worth it?

    I've had a Ryzen desktop for well over a year with the box cooler, R7 2700 and it has been great. If you overclock you absolutely want a better cooler and if you want the absolute peak clock speed out of Ryzen, its boost is based on CPU temp, then yes get a better cooler. But for most people the box cooler is perfectly usable. These aren't the Intel boxcoolers which no one should ever install.

    First gen Threadripper is a decent platform and has many advantages. Iooking at Amazon real quick I did find the 1900X for $260 but the cheapest new X399 motherboard was $300. That's a pretty big price premium. A R7 2700 can go in a B450 or X470 motherboard and you can get a very good one of those for around $100.

  • White RabbitWhite Rabbit Posts: 231

    I'm in the same need for a fast PC to render my stuff. So tired of waiting around. Thank you guys for posting this list. 

  • White RabbitWhite Rabbit Posts: 231

    I need to get a suitable case, and I notice there are 2 versions... one with the PSU, and one without. I have the Corsair PSU 850W already so I guess this will fit in the case?

    "Case - COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P RGB GAMING CASE"

    Thank you

     

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    ATX cases will hold ATX PSU's.

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