Morphing dials not working ?

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  • niccipbniccipb Posts: 483
    edited December 1969

    Those are the "Inject" and "Remove" base morphs for Victoria 4.... What exactly did you delete from the Content library?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    I have to ask again are you trying to Morph the shape of V4 or are you trying to Morph the hair? It looks like you are mixing up what items do what. V4 morphs only add morphs to V4. The moprhs that came with the Hair will only add morphs to the hair.

    To add Morphs to V4 have it selected in the scene tab when you inject the Base Morphs.
    To add Morphs to the hair have it selected in the scene tab when inject the morphs.

    Injecting Morphs are what adds the dials that let you change the shape of your items.
    You must have the item selected in the Scene Tab to get access to the morphs for the Selected item.
    Different items will have no morphs or different morphs in each part of the item you have selected.
    To use Expressions on V4 the head needs to be selected to use shaping in some hair items you have to select the part the morphs are in.

    Morphs are fun to use once you understand how to use them

    I hope this helps you out some.

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  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I don't honestly know and that's the problem so it makes sense to start completely afresh now that I'm more familiar with things and had a dry run.... Actually it's getting a bit late now as it's past midnight in the UK so I'll sort it out tomorrow, but many thanks indeed everyone for all the kind help and advice, and apols for being so slow !

  • niccipbniccipb Posts: 483
    edited December 1969

    Well a good sleep and a fresh start is always good....nite ;-)

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    I have to ask again are you trying to Morph the shape of V4 or are you trying to Morph the hair? It looks like you are mixing up what items do what. V4 morphs only add morphs to V4. The moprhs that came with the Hair will only add morphs to the hair.

    To add Morphs to V4 have it selected in the scene tab when you inject the Base Morphs.
    To add Morphs to the hair have it selected in the scene tab when inject the morphs.

    Injecting Morphs are what adds the dials that let you change the shape of your items.
    You must have the item selected in the Scene Tab to get access to the morphs for the Selected item.
    Different items will have no morphs or different morphs in each part of the item you have selected.
    To use Expressions on V4 the head needs to be selected to use shaping in some hair items you have to select the part the morphs are in.

    Morphs are fun to use once you understand how to use them

    I hope this helps you out some.

    Sorry just caught this message after I'd posted the previous one. I need to do both, work on the hair and then the features though not sure which comes first. Thanks for the info above but too tired tonight but looking forward to tomorrow ! :-)

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    niccipb said:
    Well a good sleep and a fresh start is always good....nite ;-)

    Definitely and thanks again.....:)

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    Edit: Deleted everything this morning as it was getting more and more muddled, so all files uploaded again but now can't find Victoria files for some reason. Should they all be together in the Daz main folder as I've got them filed separately....??

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I had Dialysis today Marcuse, I'm in a pretty bad way. I'm going to try to find you some more help, I don't think I'm clear headed enough or have the strenght to be here today. Please hold on and wait for more help.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,010
    edited December 1969

    It looks as if your content folders are off - please post a screenshot showing the dialogue Edit>Preferences>Content Library>Content Directory Manager, with the lists for Current expanded

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thank you Richard.

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thanks.

    Hope you feel better soon Jaderail....

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,010
    edited December 1969

    I need to see the actual folders, please click the triangles next to Poser Formats and DAZ Studio Formats to expand them and post a screenshot of that.

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Sorry about that....

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,010
    edited December 1969

    OK, you shouldn't have the folders in the Program Files folder selected at all. The others are either duplicates or, for the third one under Poser Formats, a folder that contains another content folder - and that could well be confusing DS. So, first you need to right-click on all bu the first folder under each heading and remove it, then click Accept. Once you have done that C:Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library will be your one and only content library, listed for both Poser and DS.

    The next thing to as is where did you install Victroia 4 - where is the \Runtime\libraries\!DAZ folder located on your computer, assuming it's there at all?

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    OK, you shouldn't have the folders in the Program Files folder selected at all. The others are either duplicates or, for the third one under Poser Formats, a folder that contains another content folder - and that could well be confusing DS. So, first you need to right-click on all bu the first folder under each heading and remove it, then click Accept. Once you have done that C:Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library will be your one and only content library, listed for both Poser and DS.

    The next thing to as is where did you install Victroia 4 - where is the \Runtime\libraries\!DAZ folder located on your computer, assuming it's there at all?

    Thank you. Removed all files except the top one in Daz and Poser ok and installed V4 as in pic below so that I could find them easily, but no sign of Runtime Libraries which is a bit strange as it's a completely new Daz3D download....

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  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    Big disappointment when I tried to start up again it said there's files missing so I can only uninstall everything and start again as I've no idea what it's referring to, especially as there was no Runtime anyway....

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    From your image, you have a "DAZ 3D" inside another "DAZ 3D" folder. You need to merge that up one level. V4 and Celestial Hair are installed in the wrong place -- they should be installed to "...Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library" (after you've merged the duplicate DAZ 3D folder up a level).

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thanks unfortunately I couldn't find a Library file to begin with so best to download again....mystery.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Is there a "Studio" subfolder under the duplicate "DAZ 3D" folder?

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    Thanks no there wasn't anything. This time I downloaded Studio 4 Pro from the Daz "Into my cart" site whereas the previous time I downloaded something called Windows bundle (?), also if it's any help this time it was very quick taking about 4 or 5 minutes compared to the original bundle one taking about 35/ 40 mins.

    Anyway two new screenshots of the latest download. I'd no idea what the Redistributable panel meant but as there was nothing happening after about 4 or 5 minutes I took a chance and deleted it - hope this was ok ? The second pic I've no idea what it's referring to. Victoria 4 not loaded yet....

    Get there eventually I hope :)

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,010
    edited December 1969

    Did you run the installers for Victoria 4 and the hair? I don't see any sign of it in your screen shot.

    You've also placed your default content in the application folder, rather than in the My Documents folders - and your earlier screenshot showed some very odd folder names in the My Documents folder.

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Just installed Victoria 4 ok but it's now saying error see log file for details which I've found but it's huge....?

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Start DS4.
    Go to Help > Troubleshooting > View Log File
    Delete everything in the log file
    Try to load V4
    Now paste the first 20 lines and the last 20 lines of the log here.

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Your content is still not installed correctly. Merge the nested DAZ 3D folder with the one directly under "My Documents", so that the full path reads "...My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library". Then install to that full path, not to "DAZ 3D" or "Studio", but to "My Library".

  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thanks. Sorry not a techie at all so having real difficulty understanding all this - not sure where I should be looking....in my documents or in the scene or....? Could you do a screenshot of what it should be and where mine is at the moment as I don't want to get it wrong yet again ? :red: :red:

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,010
    edited December 1969

    C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/Daz 3D/Runtime/libraries/Character/DAZ People/Victoria 4.2.dsb

    The Runtime folder should be in

    C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/Daz 3D/Studio/My Library/

    since it's the My Library folder you had set up as a content directory.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Here's a summary of what your file structure should look like in Windows Explorer:

    1) "DAZ 3D" should be directly under "My Documents", "Studio" should be directly under "DAZ 3D", and "My Library" should be directly under "Studio". Whenever you install content, the path to use is "My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library".

    2) Underneath "My Library" are a number of folders -- I've listed a few of them. Three of them are special folders: "Data", "ReadMe's", and "Runtime". Those three folders MUST be directly under "My Library".

    3) Any folders except "Data", "ReadMe's", and "Runtime" that are directly under "My Library" will appear in the Content Library tab under "DAZ Studio Formats > My Library". The three special folders aren't visible in the Content Library.

    4) Under Runtime there are more special folders. Most of them are invisible. The only ones that are visible are 9 special folders underneath Runtime\Libraries: Character, Camera, Face, Hair, Hands, Light, Materials, Pose, and Props. (The Character folder is called Figures in the Content Library.) For example, the "DAZ People" folder appears in the Content Library tab under "Poser Formats > My Library > Figures > DAZ People". That's where you'll find "Victoria 4.2".

    5) Some hair appears under Figures and some under Hair -- generally, short hair that only needs to move with the character's head will be under Hair, while long hair that has to flow over the characters shoulders, neck, and chest will be under Figures. Celestial Hair is one of the long hairs that appears under Figures.

    6) To load V4 and the hair, go to "Poser Formats > My Library > Figures > DAZ People" and double-click on "Victoria 4.2". If you installed the PowerLoader for V4, a dialog will open up asking you which morph packs you want to load along with V4. That's called "Injecting" the morphs. (Genesis does not need morphs injected; the morphs are always available when you load Genesis.)

    7) If you don't use the PowerLoader to inject morphs, you can inject them later by going to "Poser Formats > My Library > Pose > DAZ's Victoria 4 > Morph Injections".

    8) Once V4 is loaded, make sure she is selected in the scene and go to "Poser Formats > My Library > Figures > Celestial-Hair" and double-click on "1-Celestial-Hair-V4" to load the hair. Once the hair has loaded, right-click on it and choose "Fit to". A dialog box will come up that should say the hair is Fit to "Victoria 4.2". If it says "None", click on the word "None" and change it to "Victoria 4.2".

    9) Now we need to inject the morphs into the hair. Make sure the hair is selected, and go to "Poser Formats > My Library > Pose > Celestial-Hair-MATS". Double-click on "Celestial-V4-Inj" to inject the morphs.

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  • MarcuseMarcuse Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thank you both very much indeed !! But I can't relate any of this to what I've got in my pic.....? Apologies

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Most of the folders that are currently under "My Documents\DAZ 3D" should be under "My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library": People, ReadMe's, and Runtime, at the very least. And there's no Data folder, which should also be under "My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library"

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