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Using posed models purchaces from DAZ for CNC-Routing and sale

bockbmgbockbmg Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I guess I started an uproar about this 3-4 weeks ago in the DAZ forums, but it seems DAZ's EULA has changed for the better since then. So it looks like it can be possible to buy a DAZ model, pose it, and output it to my CNC Mill.

This project ends up with female forms with Greek & Roman sculpture poses CNC routed for sale. (Details omitted)

So, since I'm new to DAZ, and new to 3D in general, I'll ask the basic steps for finding & buying a model from DAZ, posing it, and exporting it for further processing with my CNC tool path software. I can tool path for STL, OBJ, RLF, 3DS, height/depth BMPs, etc...

I guess I need help with the following:

How do I find posable female DAZ models with the correct permissions? Just a basic model... I don't need make-up, hats, shoes, & those kind of options. I only need the basic form... Oh yeah... I'll probably need hair.

How about poses? Can I buy pre-made poses to apply to a model? Do the purchased poses need to have the same type of license for me to CNC the posed models?

Any recommendations for me?

Thanks!
Chris

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    The EULA hasn't changed as regards 3D printing of any sort, it has just been slightly reworded to make it easier to understand.

    As before you still need to purchase a license from DAZ 3D, and as yet they have not finalised the license.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,330
    edited December 1969

    Moved to the Commons since it isn't a New User topic

  • bockbmgbockbmg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    My mistake then.

    Just so I have this straight, it is possible to do what I want to do, and has been possible, but DAZ has never had the licensing agreements , so it hasn't been done yet? Or are these licenses being changed and they aren't ready yet? Am I the first person that's wanted to do this?

    You've been a member here for a long time. Do you have a recommendation on a lower-priced female-form model for me to start with? There's just so much stuff available at DAZ that I'm totally overwhelmed!

    Thanks!
    Chris

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    If you installed DS and the Genesis Starter essentials, plus the Genesis 2 female starter essentials you already have 2 low cost (ie Free) female figures.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited December 1969

    There are some excellent free poses over at sharecg.com with an "unrestricted use" license. Many if not all poses can be used 'with tweaking' on most of the figures.

    There used to be [can't find the link atm] a 'make human' free male and female figure.

    We have the tools to rig either legacy or triax in the program.

    For hair, again there are several free hair models with "unrestricted use" over at sharecg.com.

    Between Hexagon, D/S and what's legally available with "unrestricted" licenses, one has the ability to do what you want done.

  • robkelkrobkelk Posts: 3,259
    edited November 2013

    bockbmg said:
    My mistake then.

    Just so I have this straight, it is possible to do what I want to do, and has been possible, but DAZ has never had the licensing agreements , so it hasn't been done yet? Or are these licenses being changed and they aren't ready yet? Am I the first person that's wanted to do this?

    You've been a member here for a long time. Do you have a recommendation on a lower-priced female-form model for me to start with? There's just so much stuff available at DAZ that I'm totally overwhelmed!


    http://www.daz3d.com/anime-star-fighter
    It's a bundle of an older but still popular character, a hairdo, an outfit, and a sci-fi vehicle. $6.95, or free if you're a Platinum Club member or you buy something else at the same time. And everything in the bundle is a Daz Original, so the 3D-printing license will cover it whenever they get around to actually writing one.
    Post edited by robkelk on
  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,067
    edited December 1969

    You could also try contacting someone who has created a stand alone* 3D figure that is a freebie and see if you can offer them some cash to allow you to do this.
    Some folks may be open to the idea since many freebie creators can use a little cash for their efforts.

    Be very straight forward with your intents and goals, what your resources are, what you have already done so far, what your price point will be.

    Other than that consider commissioning someone to create and rig a base figure for you. I've been a (physical/real world) Industrial Model Maker for like twenty years and most people either hire a model maker to create a sculpted figure and cast copies off of it, or hire someone to create a 3D model to print from... you are basically hoping to get a short cut which at the moment doesn't really exist.

    One other thing, as far as I'm aware, the types of models used by DAZ and Poser don't really work too well "out of the box" for printing and machining... they would require some work to meshes so the mesh could be understood by the device attempting to make them.

    Just out of curiosity, why CNC? Wouldn't 3D printing yield better results, quicker and with less finishing work?

  • bockbmgbockbmg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    chohole, Would the Genesis Starter essentials and the Genesis 2 female starter essentials be free for me to use as I wish to get to my end goal? Probably not, but I could use them for learning purposes. Thanks for the info.

    Patience55, Thanks for the info. I didn't know about Sharecg... I'll go check it out. I have Hexagon and I found MakeHuman from the suggestion of a member here on a different thread.

    Rob, I'll check out the bundle you suggest... Thanks!

    lordvicore, I'm open to purchasing a license from somebody that has created their own model. I just don't know where to look. And certainly, I would be 100% clear on what I would do with their work if it was licensed to me. This isn't my area of expertise, so I don't know what that sort of thing costs. I create original works myself, and understand how it is when my work gets used by those who don't own the rights.

    I would much rather commission this model work done, but that is not in the budget at this time. Perhaps when the project takes off, I can have that done. The 'shortcut' would actually be me paying for the work to be done... This route is certainly not a short cut... Just think of all the new skills I'm acquiring! haha

    Yup... additional work needs to be done to a model coming out of DAZ. That's another part I'm working on. I do already have software that will process mesh & other image types into tool paths. Getting a usable model out of DAZ, would be just 1 of 5 parts of this thing. Overall, I'm probably 2/3 of the way to a product for sale.

    3D prints and resin casts don't give me my desired end product. My main material is wood, with the possibility of a few other materials in the future.

    Thanks!
    Chris

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,330
    edited November 2013

    Genesis Starter Essentials and Genesis 2 Starter Essentials are part of DAZ Studio and free to all users. They can be located in your product library for download

    Post edited by frank0314 on
  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,067
    edited December 1969

    If you go to ShareCG http://www.sharecg.com/
    You can either post a request to commission a modeler to create what you are looking for (try the jobs section), or track down the creator of a stand alone figure, at the moment I can't really remember one off-hand (possibly because there are TWO separate compressors running simultaneously while I'm typing and/or because I haven't had enough coffee yet)... ShareCG's search function is not best so it may be harder to find a stand alone figure, but perhaps you can start a thread (either here or at Renderosity) asking for links to some...

    You can also try some of the Blender forums, but people there might want to charge a whole lot more for a commissioned piece.

    I'm guessing that if you are working in wood and are not making castings then the machined part is probably the final product. I have made quite a few architectural details for casting (even a small gargoyle or two) but since the patterns were for casting, I chose RenShape : http://www.freemansupply.com/RenShape460MediumH.htm
    since it carves better with no voids or grain... there are a couple of other similar materials out there but Ren is the one I use most often.

    One other thought, try post an ad in Craigslist or at a local college (with an art program) requesting someone with experience in 3D modeling...

    Well, good luck... sorry if this was really disjoined, it is really hard to form a thought at the moment because of the noise level.

  • bockbmgbockbmg Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thanks lordvicore,

    Like most projects, things take longer than thought. I'm making progress. I had a video card problem, so Daz Studio, Hexagon, & my 3D tool path software were not working correctly... I thought it was me! I think I have that taken care of now. Now I can resume working on the learning curve.

    Yes, the wood is the final product. The posed model is only a part of the whole deal. It looks like RenShape 48# is a much higher density version of a 15# polyurethane sign board I use. Great stuff! I'll keep that in mind if I end up doing some cast stuff.

    Thanks!

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