Mac question
deeahr2169
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I had installed the latest version of DS last week, and had some problems that i assumed were the result of that installation. Anyway i reverted to DS4.6.0.18 and things were fine, or seemed to be. At around the same time i also installed the latest Mac OS update, called Mavericks. I noticed a defiant slowing of my machine and problems with some websites. I have also experienced sluggish behaviour with Daz, which i never had before. In fact i have a work in progress which now refuse to load, and i wondered if this was the result of the OS install. Has anyone else experienced problems with DS after installing Apples latest operating system? And does anyone have any idea how to resolve this, i assume its something Apple will address in about a million years...
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First a couple of question.
- What version of OS X did you have before you went to Mavericks?
- What hardware are you running on? iMac, MacBookPro, macMini, Mac Pro?
DAZ Studio usually works well on Mavericks, the only Issue I've sen is when you try to reinstall the CMS over an existing installation, it did behave a little flaky but removing the old CMS first did the trick.
If your machine became slow when Installing Mavericks i suspect that you have something eating memory or CPU. Use the Activity Monitor and check for memory usage and CPU usage. It can be something that worked with your old OS version that now misbehaves, like a php extension to the apache web service that keeps crashing and restarts 100 times a second (I had that when I went from 10.6 -> 10.8), which took a lot of system toll.
Another thing is that if you have lots of full disks and are low on RAM, and spotlight needs to reindex all your drives it can take days before it finishes (I've had mds running at 5GB RAM while indexing)
This is going to get messy because i am not clever enough to understand everything you say here. But i will try...
Prior to installing Mavericks i was running Mountain Lion fully up to date. Here is my machines profile...
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac12,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.7 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: IM121.0047.B1E
SMC Version (system): 1.72f2
Serial Number (system): C02H93HXDHJP
Hardware UUID: DF484AB5-A3C5-55FF-82F1-46332E33E148
You will see that i have 16GB of ram so plenty of memory.
I have no idea what CMS is, so i don't know what you mean by this reference. Oh is that content management service?
The activity monitor data ref CPU and memory means little to me, i have no idea how to interpret what i am seeing.
The screen shots are of what i assume to be a summary of CPU and memory at the bottom of the activity monitor window.
Could it be that when i reverted my version of Daz back to 4.6.0.18 i did not delete the version i had properly, and that somehow the previous version is corrupting the re installed verson.
You said you noticed an overall slowdown, is that still an issue or is it gone?
The CMS is as you guessed the content manager system. If it's running there is no problem and it won't reinstall that once it's installed.
There is still an issue with slow down, but things do seem to have improved. For example i could not log into to Pay pal through the updated version of Safari, i installed Chrome as a test and found that cured the problem. Now i can log into Pay pal through the new version of Safari. So i suppose you could say that things are getting better with Mavericks.
Hmm, OK.
Have you checked the settings for DAZ Studio under Preferences, Interfaces-tab; display optimization, it can make a difference.
I have now. It was set to none but i reset it to best. It made no difference that i could see. Then i had to go sleep, sorry.
Today i think i will try to do a full delete of Daz, i have back up, completely start afresh with maybe the new upgrade and report back of what happens.
Okay, it is quite fast deleting and re installing, though i suspect that the deletion is not total. I now have DS Pro 4.1.6.17 installed together with DIM 1.0.190 which i think are the latest versions. There is no discernible difference in performance that i can see.
It only installs the software. So is it still slow or is it OK now, i.e. is there now difference from when it was slow or from when it worked OK?
There is no difference at all. Refuses to load the file i mentioned still, and is sluggish where it was reasonably good before. I deleted the offending file to see if that made any difference, it didn't. Performance is no better or worse than when i first posted about this.
Can you screenshot your settings I mentioned before.
I just noticed that the interface setting had reverted to none as it was originally. I have changed that to best as is shown on the screen shot.
I assume this si the shot you wanted...
Yupp, hmm, looks good to me.
Is anything else except DAZ Studio behaving slow?
Well this is the problem i suppose. I am not sure if this is a Daz problem or an Apple problem. The situation with the Apple operating system seems to be that it is showing a gradual improvement in terms of speed and accessibility of some previously unobtainable web sites ( Pay pal for instance ). With daz the problem does not seem to improve, however there is always the chance that the cause is not actually Daz but Apple, and that as they work through glitches in Mavericks Daz may improve. For my money, and i don't have any evidence to support this, i think there is something amiss with Daz. But then i could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
So the short answer to your question is that some things were acting up, but that they are now improving.
One issue that might be a clue is that when i load a scene, it takes quite some time before i can follow the path to the required file. Before this was an almost instant process.
I run Mavericks on two machines, a MacPro 2012 and an old MacBookPro from 2010 and both behave better than they ever did with 10.7 or 10.8. Do you have any kind of Anti-Virus installed or any Haxies by Unsanity software? Those can create slowdowns if they are not compatible with the current OS.
If you don't open the scene you had, but start DAZ Studio, adda a Gensis or GF2 and works with that, is it still slow?
One thing you can try is to select Window-Workspace-Style and then Window->Workspace->Layout and apply. Could be a prefs file problem causing things going slow.
I don't have any anti virus or the other thing you mentioned. I actually deleted the scene i was having trouble with, to see if that helped. I will try the GF2 and see what happens. I use mainly V4, not genesis at all really. Also will check out Style change. Thanks very much, will report back...
Okay. First i tried loading G2F, worked fine with no props loaded, loaded instantly poses instantly. Then i closed it and opened again and loaded V4, the same result. I leo played around with the style, no change whatever style, everything worked fine. The only remaining problem i can find is that when i try to load a saved scene it takes a while for the path to open up. Not sure if that last is understandable.
I also tested loading a really complex scene and had no problems. Maybe the scene that seemed to be causing the problem contained something that caused this, i have no idea. All i can say is that right now, things seem to be working as i would expect with the exception of the actual delay in loading a file, but that only takes around 10 seconds before it works properly.
No idea why this happened, or indeed why it seems to be cured. Cerainly wasn't anything i did, though if anyone is responsible for this cure, it is you Sir, and for that and your time and trouble you have my sincere thanks....
Great to hear it works. Old scenes, depending on how old, can have problems with a few things.
- items in .daz format saved in a .duf scene might cause problems.
- Items referring to things in the Runtime that has been moved.
But my guess it that the regained performance is due to the settings you fiddled with under Windows and display optimization.
/ Totte