Questions on Install Manager

realbobelerealbobele Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in New Users

Hi.

I do have some questions about the Install Manager. Please let me first explain what I have done so far:

I come from Poser. My wife worked with DAZ for a while and had purchased 3 or 4 products from the Store with her account. She was it who made me try DAZ. So I started with DAZ3D 4.5...

I manually installed several Props and Figures etc. I had from my Poser. I then purchased a lot of stuff from the DAZ3D Shop, which I installed also manually. After my wife stopped using DAZ I also installed the products she bought from the files she downloaded from the shop. I did never install an Update of any product in the library since then. So my library consist of about 20% Poser Stuff, 75% models I have bought with my account, 5% models that were bought with my wifes account.

Now I want to upgrade to DAZ3D 4.6 and start to think that it may be a good idea to use Install Manager to get all the products in my library up to date an compatible to 4.6. This leads to my questions:

- As I understand, Install Manager is a Standalone Product that just compares the products in the library (aka. Folder, where a library stored) with the newest versions of whatever the logged in Account has bought and offers the possibility to update those products? It is not a Plugin to DAZ3D an must not always be used after being used once? Is that correct?

- How does Install Manager handle installed Products in a library that are NOT bought with the account logged in (Poser Meshes, DAZ products bought by my wife). Does it simple ignore these and just check what the logged in account has bought and can upgrade? Or: It does not uninstall products it detects as "unlicensed" as they are not on the list of purchases of the logged in account?

- Can I use different accounts in Install Manager one after another? First log in with my account, let Install Manager compare my library with what I have purchased an make it update everything which can be updated, after that logging in with my wifes account, using the same library and having it update the rest?

Not a big deal, she only had 3 or 4 clothes for Genesis, but I still find me use them sometimes. So I would like them to remain in the library. I think there is no way to have those products to be bound to another account, as she does not use DAZ anymore?

- What is "best practice"? Should I first update DAZ 4.5 to 4.6 and then use Install Manager for the first time? Or vice versa?

Thank you for your help and your incredible products :)
Boris

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  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    - As I understand, Install Manager is a Standalone Product that just compares the products in the library (aka. Folder, where a library stored) with the newest versions of whatever the logged in Account has bought and offers the possibility to update those products? It is not a Plugin to DAZ3D an must not always be used after being used once? Is that correct?

    The DIM (DAZ Install Manager), is a standalone product, yes. It can download and install content for DAZ Studio, and Poser, and it will offer updates to any products that you have bought when they become available. I find it an excellent piece of software, but it is worth reading the Help file that comes with it, or asking questions on the forum before you begin using it.

    - How does Install Manager handle installed Products in a library that are NOT bought with the account logged in (Poser Meshes, DAZ products bought by my wife). Does it simple ignore these and just check what the logged in account has bought and can upgrade? Or: It does not uninstall products it detects as “unlicensed” as they are not on the list of purchases of the logged in account?



    DIM can use more than one login I believe, but it only knows about content that IT has installed, and does not look at, or remove, any other content.

    The default location for DAZ Studio content without using the DIM, is My Library in the Documents area under your user name. The DIM defaults to installing into a folder called My DAZ 3D Library which is in the Public Documents area. It is usually advisable to uninstall all previously installed DAZ 3D Products, and use the new library, or to uninstall all of the content from My Library, and then set the DIM to install there if you would prefer.

    I would upgrade to DS4.6 first, and then install the DIM. You don't have to use it just because it is installed, and you can just use it to download the new ZIP files, and install them yourself if preferred, but it is so much easier with DIM.

    You can also use Poser content inside DS4.6 by giving it the path to any Poser content you may have, but of course, rigging has changed from Poser 9 on, and newer Poser content may not work properly inside DS.

    If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask at any time
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,948
    edited December 1969

    Note that the Install Manager can't do anything with content it didn't install - it doesn't rely on the actual files, which would be hard and bandwidth-costly to compare over the web, but on a manifest file that it places when it installs content and compares with the current manifest version.

  • realbobelerealbobele Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thank you very much...


    DIM can use more than one login I believe, but it only knows about content that IT has installed, and does not look at, or remove, any other content.

    Ouch, that is a plot stopper for me. I do not dare to uninstall all products in my library to have Install Manager install them at a new location, as I do have severalt scenes and workfiles which do refer to the old location and files. I wasn't aware that Install Manager does not check for files already installed and comparing those to what it finds online. I watched a video about using Install Manager on an Library already in use (on daz3d.com) and this made this not as clear as you did. So thanks again, I will probably check for updates manually whenever I use a product.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,948
    edited December 1969

    Scenes should store only the relative path - the location within the content directory - so installing to a different location, as long as the files are the same, shouldn't break anything. You can, if you have the space, always simply remove the old location as a content directory and DS simply won't look there - that will give you a chance to make sure your scenes load OK (though any imported content, items in Poser format or especially old .daz scene files, may be problems like that).

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