Star Trek Builders Unite 8: THE REBOOT

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  • I don't doubt it. 

     

    The reason I yield such results as these is honestly because I'm kind of a perfectionist.

  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    They look great!

    Genesis is a pain to use in Poser, though, so I am still using mostly V4 and M4. There are now some more advanced figures for Poser, but it's hard to resist the backlog of Trek stuff made for V4 and M4. Yes, I could convert them, and sometimes do, but I'm lazy.

    Image is M4 as Captain Kirk. I wish I had a wrap shirt for him. There is one for V4 at ShareCG, but I haven't found a M4 version.

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  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    I just noticed Dodger uploaded a Hynerian to ShareCG. I'm not even into Farscape, but it is so cool. Has a full outfit, and a throne sled.

  • xialiubeixialiubei Posts: 71

    randym77 said:

    I just noticed Dodger uploaded a Hynerian to ShareCG. I'm not even into Farscape, but it is so cool. Has a full outfit, and a throne sled.

    Thanks for the heads up.  I love Farscape, and had to check that out immediately.  I'd love to see more Farscape stuff for Daz.  It was a great show.  It really was the first show, in many ways, to do what everyone expects from modern television, ala serialized story-telling, protagonists betraying each other, killing off major characters, etc...

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304
    edited July 2021

    xialiubei said:

    randym77 said:

    I just noticed Dodger uploaded a Hynerian to ShareCG. I'm not even into Farscape, but it is so cool. Has a full outfit, and a throne sled.

    Thanks for the heads up.  I love Farscape, and had to check that out immediately.  I'd love to see more Farscape stuff for Daz.  It was a great show.  It really was the first show, in many ways, to do what everyone expects from modern television, ala serialized story-telling, protagonists betraying each other, killing off major characters, etc...

    I wouldn't call it the first.

    But I did a Minbari right before that, and that is from what I would call the first. At least in modern(-ish) times. (I mean, technically the 90s are further back in time from now than the 70s were from the 90s...)

    But back in the 70s, Terry Nation did that, too, as the first anti-trek. And my next set will be from that.

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  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    OMG, I love Blake's 7 Are you talking about Blake's 7?

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304
    edited July 2021

    Ok, here you go, here's a Federation uniform!

    https://sharecg.com/v/97917/view/11/Poser/Terran-Federation-Trooper

    (Wait... did I get the wrong federation? Aww shucks.)

     

    (Randym77: Yes, yes I am!)

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  • xialiubeixialiubei Posts: 71

    Dodger said:

    xialiubei said:

    randym77 said:

    I just noticed Dodger uploaded a Hynerian to ShareCG. I'm not even into Farscape, but it is so cool. Has a full outfit, and a throne sled.

    Thanks for the heads up.  I love Farscape, and had to check that out immediately.  I'd love to see more Farscape stuff for Daz.  It was a great show.  It really was the first show, in many ways, to do what everyone expects from modern television, ala serialized story-telling, protagonists betraying each other, killing off major characters, etc...

    I wouldn't call it the first.

    But I did a Minbari right before that, and that is from what I would call the first. At least in modern(-ish) times. (I mean, technically the 90s are further back in time from now than the 70s were from the 90s...)

    But back in the 70s, Terry Nation did that, too, as the first anti-trek. And my next set will be from that.

    Well, to be fair, I didn't call it the first, but the first in many ways.  There were previous episodic television series that had a larger story told over the course of a few episodes or even over the course of a season (Doctor Who, Sapphire and Steel, and a host of other British series), as well as episodic television shows that told stories over a longer period of time (the previously mentioned Blake's 7, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5, the X-Files etc...), but even at that, the series were still designed in a manner that mostly allowed viewers to jump in without much prior knowledge.

    Farscape (which was largely episodic in its first season) was the first show that I felt decided to abandon episodic story-telling almost completely, in favor of long-form storytelling that continued right up to its cancellation.  It was very unforgiving to new viewers in a way that no show really was before that.  In my opinion, anyway.

    Anyway, sorry to go off on a tangent.  That federation trooper looks amazing.  

    P.S. I always thought Servalan (from Blake's 7) was incredibly sexy as a kid.  I think that's why I liked Grayza (from Farscape), with her short hair and lowcut tops, she somehow subconciously must have reminded me of that character.

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304
    edited July 2021

    Well, to be fair, I didn't call it the first, but the first in many ways.  There were previous episodic television series that had a larger story told over the course of a few episodes or even over the course of a season (Doctor Who, Sapphire and Steel, and a host of other British series), as well as episodic television shows that told stories over a longer period of time (the previously mentioned Blake's 7, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5, the X-Files etc...), but even at that, the series were still designed in a manner that mostly allowed viewers to jump in without much prior knowledge.

    Farscape (which was largely episodic in its first season) was the first show that I felt decided to abandon episodic story-telling almost completely, in favor of long-form storytelling that continued right up to its cancellation.  It was very unforgiving to new viewers in a way that no show really was before that.  In my opinion, anyway.

    But that's just the thing, and why I mentioned the Minbari I just did: That's absolutely untrue of Babylon 5. If you come in to B5 halfway through the second season, you'll have absolutely no idea what's going on. It's not even watchable like that. 

    JMS specifically designed B5 to be an American sci fi telenovela. It's possible to jump in maybe anywhere in the first half of the first series, though with sone loss of continuity even then. Some episodes (like the one where a douchey archaeologist smuggled ancient biotech weapons on the station) are episodic in that first season, but the same can be said for Farscape before Crichton finally puts on a PK jacket and keeps it. until he's strapped into Scorpius's chair, most of those episodes can be watched in any order. And even into S2 there are multiple episodes that you can safely skip ("Taking the Stone" comes to mind—it's not just useless to the narrative, but it's basically Farscape's The Alternative Factor or Threshold. Every show has a stinker or two though. DS9 has the baseball game one, Buffy has the one where her dorm mate is a demon, Even Firefly had Shindig. And B5's stinker - Day of the Dead - was even written by Neil Gaiman!)

    So it's not that you mean something else. It's just that you're horribly mistaken about Babylon 5. I strongly recommend going back and watching it again!

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  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    Dodger said:

    Ok, here you go, here's a Federation uniform!

    https://sharecg.com/v/97917/view/11/Poser/Terran-Federation-Trooper

    (Wait... did I get the wrong federation? Aww shucks.)

     

    (Randym77: Yes, yes I am!)

    Awesome!!!  That looks really great.

    B7 really was the anti-Trek. Note the logo. It's Star Trek's combadge...turned 90 degrees to the right!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,941

    randym77 said:

    Dodger said:

    Ok, here you go, here's a Federation uniform!

    https://sharecg.com/v/97917/view/11/Poser/Terran-Federation-Trooper

    (Wait... did I get the wrong federation? Aww shucks.)

     

    (Randym77: Yes, yes I am!)

    Awesome!!!  That looks really great.

    B7 really was the anti-Trek. Note the logo. It's Star Trek's combadge...turned 90 degrees to the right!

    It wasn't a com-badge then - any patting of the chest path was just Kirk being frisky again.

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304

    Richard Haseltine said:

    It wasn't a com-badge then - any patting of the chest path was just Kirk being frisky again.

    LOL.

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304

     

    B7 really was the anti-Trek. Note the logo. It's Star Trek's combadge...turned 90 degrees to the right!

    Terry Nation, in an interview, actually said the very first inkling of the show was when he was annoyed with how perfect Starfleet was being made out to be in Star Trek, and his first premise was "what if all these Star Trek shows about heroes exploring and doing great deeds is really just Federation propaganda and they're a horrible totalitarian dystopia?"

    It would explain The Omega Glory a lot better.

  • jaguarry3jaguarry3 Posts: 230
    edited July 2021

    randym77 said:

    They look great!

    "Genesis is a pain to use in Poser, though, so I am still using mostly V4 and M4. There are now some more advanced figures for Poser, but it's hard to resist the backlog of Trek stuff made for V4 and M4. Yes, I could convert them, and sometimes do, but I'm lazy.

    Image is M4 as Captain Kirk. I wish I had a wrap shirt for him. There is one for V4 at ShareCG, but I haven't found a M4 version."

    Nice  image.  I too mainly use M4 v4 for the same reasons Here's one I did with a modified version of the TOS uniform Texture  for Valiant  to give the wrap around look

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  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    jaguarry3 said:

    Nice  image.  I too mainly use M4 v4 for the same reasons Here's one I did with a modified version of the TOS uniform Texture  for Valiant  to give the wrap around look

    That looks great. It's the version with braid on the shoulders, too, which is more of a texturing pain than the sleeves.

    He looks kind of cranky, though...

  • Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

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  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,444

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

     

    I vote yes 

  • genejokegenejoke Posts: 129

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

    Those are fantastic. and I vote yes.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    genejoke said:

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

    Those are fantastic. and I vote yes.

    Yes.

  • blutobluto Posts: 838
    Hey fleet admiral do me a favor when you make Tasha Yar put her in a starfleet bikini
  • blutobluto Posts: 838
    Fleet admiral you should also make q
  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

    I've been meaning to ask you this on your DA page but as it was kinda mentioned here, I figured this place was good.
    Do you plan on releasing your ST crews for G8 at some point?
    I'm not going to ask when, just the if of it. I've been tempted to give Wrap3 a go myself but tutorials for G8 are scarce. If you're going to release them down the line, there's no point in doing them myself. I can try other figures.
    I also back up the posts saying yes to Tasha. Hopefully we'll see a DS9 crew one day too, I'd love an Ezri Dax figure. :-)

  • lwaves said:

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

    I've been meaning to ask you this on your DA page but as it was kinda mentioned here, I figured this place was good.
    Do you plan on releasing your ST crews for G8 at some point?
    I'm not going to ask when, just the if of it. I've been tempted to give Wrap3 a go myself but tutorials for G8 are scarce. If you're going to release them down the line, there's no point in doing them myself. I can try other figures.
    I also back up the posts saying yes to Tasha. Hopefully we'll see a DS9 crew one day too, I'd love an Ezri Dax figure. :-)

    To answer your question I'm still working on learning how to package things up. If I were to release what I have right now it would just be the raw OBJ files and you would have to load them up manually via Transfer Utility and Morph Loader Pro (and I just recently learned there is third step to fix weird positioning of the eye controllers on some characters - fit rig to shape) .

     

    If I do release them it'll be after I have all the main crews. So TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT so far I only have TNG/TOS/Discovery. 

  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    lwaves said:

    FleetAdmiral01 said:

    Worf is still in the future but.....

     

    Aslo should I go ahead and make Tasha Yar?

    I've been meaning to ask you this on your DA page but as it was kinda mentioned here, I figured this place was good.
    Do you plan on releasing your ST crews for G8 at some point?
    I'm not going to ask when, just the if of it. I've been tempted to give Wrap3 a go myself but tutorials for G8 are scarce. If you're going to release them down the line, there's no point in doing them myself. I can try other figures.
    I also back up the posts saying yes to Tasha. Hopefully we'll see a DS9 crew one day too, I'd love an Ezri Dax figure. :-)

    To answer your question I'm still working on learning how to package things up. If I were to release what I have right now it would just be the raw OBJ files and you would have to load them up manually via Transfer Utility and Morph Loader Pro (and I just recently learned there is third step to fix weird positioning of the eye controllers on some characters - fit rig to shape) .

     

    If I do release them it'll be after I have all the main crews. So TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT so far I only have TNG/TOS/Discovery. 

    Cheers for the reply and that's understandable, even though you said you were fairly new, I didn't realise you were that new to all this.

    I have your raw rip files from TOS and Discovery (from another forum) which are very useful to me, so it would be greatly appreciated if you continue releasing them in the meantime. Not sure if you've released the raw rips from TNG yet. I've been having some good results with Face Transfer and might continue down that route. :-)

  • For characters I couldn't find in my source I have used face transfer. For example that's how I made Janice Rand.

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  • Where might these raw rips be?

  • GRFK DSGN Unlimited said:

    Where might these raw rips be?

    On my Google Drive. I generally ask people who want the link to P.M. me. 

  • Ultimately the reason why I started converting these characters to DAZ has to do with the weird way the original raw ripped models are rigged. One, being a Poser/DAZ user, I'm really not used to joint based face rigs. Two Star Trek Fleet Comamnd's skeleton is just plain weird. I skeleton mapped S.T.F.C's Kirk in Maya as well as one of my G8 figures just to compare how the weight paints worked and this was the result

     

    If you look closely particularly at the feet S.T.F.C's Kirk model's mesh distorts, and was a constant across almost all of them (likely because in game the only animation those models have is a stationary idle pose) so I was eventually compelled to convert them via Wrap3 to G8. A rig I know works.

  • randym77randym77 Posts: 276

    Has anyone ever done a key to Vanishing Point's stuff? Are all of them based on TV or movie sets? I recognize some of them. Bridge 4 is Voyager, the Sephora bridge is TOS, etc. Some you can tell by the name. The Wilbur bridge is from Orville, I assume. But some, I don't recognize.

  • DodgerDodger Posts: 304
    edited July 2021

    Making some more outfits for the 3D&D Klingon, certainly more in-line with this thread. (Textures have not been finalised yet -- these textures are just mock-ups, but the meshes should be basically done.)

    I also have TMP and STII-VI outfits, but I haven't even done mockup texures for them yet.

     

     

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