DAZ 4 UNUSABLY SLOW - HELP

SnowDogSnowDog Posts: 44
edited December 1969 in New Users

Ok, I need some help. Basically my problem is this:

I absolutely CANNOT have more than one Genesis in a scene or DAZ slows to a CRAWL. Moving on light a bit to the left took me 10 min of frustration. Posing a hand? Hahahaha.... yeah, no. Impossible.

This also happens if I have only one genesis, but they are dressed in clothing with many parts or layers. For example, using the Genesis Bot and then dressing it in clothing. CRASH

Adding Props to your scene that has a Genesis in it? Nope, never works.

I've been having to render everything in a separately and them compile in GIMP, but its a pain making sure the lighting is the same in all of them, and then I end up having to paint in the shadows - and I'm not very good at that.

Is there anyway I can make it so DAZ isn't trying to recalculate everything every two seconds?

I never had this problem with DAZ 3, I could have tons of Victoria and Michael in the scene along with props and it worked fine.

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,974
    edited December 1969

    Hello,

    First, check the clothes smoothing settings. There are some which has the "interactive update" checked, turn that off or your machine will crawl.

    Secondly, how much free RAM do you have how much videoRAM do you have?

    There is also a setting in the Preferences -> Interface -> Display Optimization, try to increase that to "better" or "best" if it was set to something lower.

  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    GamerGrrl said:
    Ok, I need some help. Basically my problem is this:

    I absolutely CANNOT have more than one Genesis in a scene or DAZ slows to a CRAWL. Moving on light a bit to the left took me 10 min of frustration. Posing a hand? Hahahaha.... yeah, no. Impossible.

    This also happens if I have only one genesis, but they are dressed in clothing with many parts or layers. For example, using the Genesis Bot and then dressing it in clothing. CRASH

    Adding Props to your scene that has a Genesis in it? Nope, never works.

    I've been having to render everything in a separately and them compile in GIMP, but its a pain making sure the lighting is the same in all of them, and then I end up having to paint in the shadows - and I'm not very good at that.

    Is there anyway I can make it so DAZ isn't trying to recalculate everything every two seconds?

    I never had this problem with DAZ 3, I could have tons of Victoria and Michael in the scene along with props and it worked fine.


    Some of this may sound obvious, but sometimes we overlook such things.

    Firstly, if you've got plenty of RAM usable (as Totte suggested checking), make sure you've got no malware, spyware or virus running in the background. Some of the spyware can use huge chunks of RAM without you even noticing.

    Secondly, reboot the machine, open no other windows except DS and see how that affects your run speed. I know this sometimes affects me because I don't reboot very much!

    There is a very good program called Process Explorer, which you can find at http://www.sysinternals.com that will give you a better idea than the usual task manager of how much RAM a program/process is using, and how much CPU power is available. You can also prioritise each application so that the ones you use the most run a little faster, but be careful not to overdo that because it will slow other processes down, including the desktop!

    Hope that helps,
    Barry.

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728
    edited December 1969

    "Is there anyway I can make it so DAZ isn’t trying to recalculate everything every two seconds?"

    Yep, sounds like clothes with a lot of smoothing and/or collision levels. Turn those down/off in the parameters tab until you're ready to render. You might also have subdivision turned up too high - also in parameters.

  • SnowDogSnowDog Posts: 44
    edited December 1969

    Ok, checked one image (with one character, no set yet) that I was having slowness issues with. I had Interactive update turned off, and subdivision turned down to 1, but smoothing was on. I turned it off on everything. Will let you know how it turns out as I work with the image.

    Computer stats:
    3 gb ram


    I'm not sure what free Ram or Video Ram is.

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728
    edited December 1969

    Unfortunately 3gb of RAM is not much. What is your CPU and GPU those are likely to give you issues on the opengl preview.

  • SnowDogSnowDog Posts: 44
    edited December 1969

    jimzombie said:
    Unfortunately 3gb of RAM is not much. What is your CPU and GPU those are likely to give you issues on the opengl preview.

    CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 260 3.2 GHz

    GPU: ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics

    Turning off smoothing and interactive update helped some, but not much.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited June 2013

    3Gb of ram is your bottle neck. Almost all 3D power CPU based programs need more RAM now. DAZ Studio is pushing your RAM limits for any version above DS3 I'm afraid.

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  • BlumBlumShubBlumBlumShub Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    3Gb of ram is your bottle neck. Almost all 3D power CPU based programs need more RAM now. DAZ Studio is pushing your RAM limits for any version above DS3 I'm afraid.

    I can vouch for that. My old system had a reasonable processor and graphic card, but only 4 gig of RAM, and it ran DS4.0 SLOOOOOOOOOOWLY!

    If I had a clothed Genesis (which was new technology when 4.0 came out) and some scenery, then that would cripple DS altogether.

    Now I have 8 gig of RAM and it works just fine.

    I'm sure you can get some RAM for your machine fairly cheaply, it doesn't seem particularly out of date by the processor you describe. Are you using DDR3 RAM on that one?

  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,974
    edited December 1969

    GamerGrrl said:
    jimzombie said:
    Unfortunately 3gb of RAM is not much. What is your CPU and GPU those are likely to give you issues on the opengl preview.

    CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 260 3.2 GHz

    GPU: ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics

    Turning off smoothing and interactive update helped some, but not much.

    Check under Preferences->Interface->Display Optimization, this might do wonders if set to Best or even Better.

  • SnowDogSnowDog Posts: 44
    edited December 1969

    Totte said:
    GamerGrrl said:
    jimzombie said:
    Unfortunately 3gb of RAM is not much. What is your CPU and GPU those are likely to give you issues on the opengl preview.

    CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 260 3.2 GHz

    GPU: ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics

    Turning off smoothing and interactive update helped some, but not much.

    Check under Preferences->Interface->Display Optimization, this might do wonders if set to Best or even Better.

    Already have it set there.

    I was kinda afraid it was computer hardware related. I'll check into it and see if I can get more ram. Thanks for all the tips and help!

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