Dream Home & Scenes

RockmongrelRockmongrel Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in New Users

I tried daz years ago and got to the point of giving up, I'm here again to give it another try. I have watched all the free video tourtorals and I'm trying to set up my scene. Years ago i bought "Dream Home: Master Bedroom. I used the path: My DAZ 3D Libary-Props-Architecture-Dream Home-DH_MBD. double click, and get error message "Selection Error"- This action requires an item within the scene to be selected.
I assume Dream Home: Master Bedroom is not a scene then, right??? So how do I get DH_MBD to load into a scene? And/or how do I make a scene that I can load it into?

Thanks in advance

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  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    The only thing I can think of is that you are trying to apply the eclectics for the master bedroom rather than the MBD itself. DH_MBD should be the master bedroom, so it should load without issue as a prop, without anything needing to be selected. Which version of Daz are you using and how are you loading the files?

  • RockmongrelRockmongrel Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I am using 4.6, and loaded the files with DIM, I
    tried draging the file to work area as well as double clicking. I'll try it with 4.5 now.

  • RockmongrelRockmongrel Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I get same error with 4.5 pro

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    The icons in "DAZ Studio Formats" are probably just material presets -- the props themselves are probably in "Poser Formats". If you turn on file extensions, the items in "DAZ Studio Formats" that are .daz are scenes/objects; the ones that are .ds/.dsa/.dsb are presets. (Items in the DS4 formats .dsf and .duf can be either.)

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    Yes, I recently reorganised all my Dream Home stuff and all D|S-format files are definitely only materials. Note that a few of the earlier Dream Home sets don't have D|S materials; there are only Poser materials, which will probably need a bit of tweaking.

  • RockmongrelRockmongrel Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Fix,
    I found it in Poser/Figures.

  • MythmakerMythmaker Posts: 606
    edited November 2013

    Win7-64. 4.5.1.6. Daz-Only user. Latest DIM installation.

    --- Why can't I load the BG Dinner Set? Why do I get "the action requires an item in the scene to be selected"? Hol Nook and Ballroom loads fine.

    --- Why is Eastern Terrace totally absent from Daz format library? Why does Eastern Terrace appear only in Products>E ??? Why is it in .Cr2 supposedly a Poser format? I have uninstalled the StudioCF version of Eastern Terrace and reinstalled the "norm" version.

    Every other product purchased is another new freaking mystery.

    I will not buy any more products from Daz store until this madness is resolved.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,669
    edited December 1969

    In the first issue, you are trying to load a material setting and not the model itself. If an item has a Studio CF installer that usually means you need to load the Poser version, then (if it isn't set up to apply materials on load - usually indicated by the presence of a scroll icon at the top-left corner of the thumbnail) apply the studio materials file. It's not uncommon fro older items in particular to be set up this way, or even to lack Studio settings entirely.

  • MythmakerMythmaker Posts: 606
    edited November 2013

    Thanks Richard. So when one sees Productname DS and Productname Studio CF, one is supposed to install both versions?


    To add to this mystery, I just checked inside my DIM. There is only one version of Grandeur Dinner Service DS. No CF, no Poser.

    I just found the same dinner set files showing under Product>G. They also won't load. All .dsa files.

    Why do they appear in Products but not absolute path folders?

    Before DIM, I also have a Michael 5 showing only under Products>M issue, which was resolved after updated DIM re-installation. But now this new mystery.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    DIM will tell you which ones you need to install. Grandeur Dinner Service does require both the PS and StudioCF to be installed. If DIM isn't indicating you need both, or if the PS files aren't showing up under Products, please submit a Zendesk ticket so the product can be fixed.

  • MythmakerMythmaker Posts: 606
    edited November 2013

    Thanks fixmypcmike. In my case the dinner set PS file isn't showing up in DIM.

    Remaining mystery: why showing only in Product>Alphabet. And what is StudioCF, and .cr2.

    Should I learn more Daz gibberish or will DIM be consistent one of these fine days.

    There's a Eastern Terrace StudioCF, so I'm going to reinstall that and if it will appear where it should and load properly.

    Lesson here is don't buy any old products that says Poser-compatible unless one loves wasting time on solving ancient Daz mysteries.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    A lot of the older products have a full Poser version and a StudioCF, which just has material settings to apply to the Poser items.
    .cr2 is the Poser filetype for figures (that is, items which have multiple bones). In DS they show up in Content Library > Poser Formats > [yourlibraryname] > Figures

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    Simply put both Categories and Products are extensions of CMS and Smart Content. In my not so humble opinion they shouldn't even be in the Content Library tab, but I'm bias as I hate CMS and Smart Content.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    They are in the Content Library tab as they grow out of the DS2/DS3 Category view.

  • MythmakerMythmaker Posts: 606
    edited November 2013

    fixmypcmike, I've submitted a zendesk ticket on the dinner set.

    After installing Eastern Terrace StudioCF version, its material set re-appeared in Daz library>Architecture. However the actual base files still only show up only under Products>E, in .cr2. Is this another DIM bug, or a product packaging mistake?

    Productname PS is obviously Poser. StudioCF is Poser related also?

    I didn't uncheck Poser under DIM>Downloads during my last big reinstall, presumably that's why products with StudioCF and PS got installed. I uninstalled them to reduce content confusion.

    And now, since it's clear SOME older Daz products won't work without its Poser counterpart, and I still have 2 other products with a StudioCF version sitting in DIM. Should I reinstall them too?

    Thanks again.

    jestmart said:
    Simply put both Categories and Products are extensions of CMS and Smart Content. In my not so humble opinion they shouldn't even be in the Content Library tab

    I agree Categories should be its own tab.

    And when saving custom files, we should be able to point to our custom Categories folders, instead of just Default Categories.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    A lot of older products have a Poser version and StudioCF (Studio Companion Files) -- the main items are in Poser format and show up in Content Library > Poser Formats, and the DS material presets are in Content Library > DAZ Studio Formats. You'll get them even if Poser is unchecked in the download filters, because that's the version that works in DS.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    Mythmaker said:

    And when saving custom files, we should be able to point to our custom Categories folders, instead of just Default Categories.

    Not sure what you mean here -- when I save files they show up in Default > Unassigned, and from there I can save them to my own custom categories.

  • MythmakerMythmaker Posts: 606
    edited November 2013

    A lot of older products have a Poser version and StudioCF (Studio Companion Files) -- the main items are in Poser format and show up in Content Library > Poser Formats, and the DS material presets are in Content Library > DAZ Studio Formats. You'll get them even if Poser is unchecked in the download filters, because that's the version that works in DS.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, and thanks again for your explanation.

    If a product comes with a DS, PS, StudioCF, I just install DS, ignore others.

    If a product comes with PS and StudioCF no DS or generic, I ignore PS, install StudioCF.

    If a product comes only with PS, install PS, expect to find it only in Poser format library.

    If a product appears only in Product>Alphabet, and loads, and its material sets appear in Libraries, it is an installation bug, nothing to do with new or old formats.

    And now that I've unchecked DIM Poser option, DIM should auto-download the StudioCFs whenever applies. So in my future installations it is possible to ignore all these Poser irrelevancies forever.

    Pic shows the custom Categories I refer to. I now have my own Categories:MyActors etc folders at the same level as Categories: Default. These custom Cat folders just won't show when saving custom props/figures, and users have to manually click click scroll click scroll click to Unassigned just to get to it after saving. Why tell users we have freedom to invent our categories as we like and then ignore them and continue to force the Default cats on users?

    Or this is an implementation oversight that's been corrected in later versions? Mine is 4.5.1.6. pro.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,611
    edited December 1969

    Mythmaker said:

    If a product comes with a DS, PS, StudioCF, I just install DS, ignore others.

    Correct

    Mythmaker said:

    If a product comes with PS and StudioCF no DS or generic, I ignore PS, install StudioCF.

    No, you need to install the PS also. Companion File (CF) means that it's meant to accompany the main file and won't work on its own. You would load the item from the Poser formats, then apply the DS material preset from DAZ Studio Formats.

    Mythmaker said:

    If a product comes only with PS, install PS, expect to find it only in Poser format library.

    Correct


    If a product appears only in Product>Alphabet, and loads, and its material sets appear in Libraries, it is an installation bug, nothing to do with new or old formats.

    Not necessarily; some items combine the Poser and DS material settings in the Poser libraries -- they show up in DS with a scroll icon in the upper left corner of the icon, to show that they do have DS settings even though they are in the Poser Formats section.


    And now that I've unchecked DIM Poser option, DIM should auto-download the StudioCFs whenever applies. So in my future installations it is possible to ignore all these Poser irrelevancies forever.

    Unfortunately no, there are many items which don't have DS-format files, or which combine the Poser and DS files in the Poser libraries.


    Pic shows the custom Categories I refer to. I now have my own Categories:MyActors etc folders at the same level as Categories: Default. These custom Cat folders just won't show when saving custom props/figures, and users have to manually click click scroll click scroll click to Unassigned just to get to it after saving. Why tell users we have freedom to invent our categories as we like and then ignore them and continue to force the Default cats on users?

    Or this is an implementation oversight that's been corrected in later versions? Mine is 4.5.1.6. pro.

    Ah, I see what you mean. I'm not sure about that, let me see if I can find someone who knows. I have an idea how to trick DS into showing your custom categories, but I'd rather get the real answer first.

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