DAZ 4.6 Upgrade

AdrianSAdrianS Posts: 77
edited December 1969 in New Users

I have DAZ 4.5 and so I need the new 4.6 version as an upgrade only. In install Manager, it has downloaded updates for Genesis Starter Essentials, and the subsurface shader base. Is this the update, or do I need to install DAZ Studio 4.6 as well?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2013

    You need to download DS 4.6 as well

    As it is the program and not content you have to download it from your "Product Library" adn not with the DIM as that is for content only

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • AdrianSAdrianS Posts: 77
    edited December 1969

    OK, fine. But then in my product library I have a load of other files. Do I need them or are they already included in DAZ 4.6? Some are inactive, so i assume I don't need those. But what about Content Crteator Toolkit, FBX exporter, Texture Atlas and 3D Bridge for Photoshop? I think I already have those in DAZ 4.5 - do I need to download them again? I believe Decimator is some sort of trial version, isn't it? So presumably I don't need that.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,945
    edited December 1969

    Decimator has to be purchased if you have only ever had the free DS4 Pro, it's there for those of us who paid for it on launch. Photoshop and ZBrush bridges obviously need you to have the application they bridge to. The older versions will work, but the new ones may well have bug fixes.

  • SuperdogSuperdog Posts: 765
    edited December 1969

    Do I need to uninstall DS 4.5 before I install DS 4.6? I've also bought a few plugins like Decimator and Look At My Hair. Will they all work with DS 4.6? I'm a bit worried that if I install DS 4.6 it might mess up my DS 4.5 installation of erase my content library. Have others upgraded without any problems?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,945
    edited December 1969

    You can let the installer uninstall the old version. Your plugins will still work, though if there are updated versions you may as well grab them for any bug fixes they include.

  • SuperdogSuperdog Posts: 765
    edited December 1969

    You can let the installer uninstall the old version. Your plugins will still work, though if there are updated versions you may as well grab them for any bug fixes they include.

    Ok thanks, will I need to reinstall or update any other files?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    The CMS got a Update too. So stop it and Un-install it as well. Your database should be fine, (I'm going to back mine up first though).

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Only the database client was updated, so you don't have to uninstall CMS, that part hasn't been updated.

  • SertorialSertorial Posts: 962
    edited December 1969

    More to the point, is 4.6 worth it? (I have 4.5)

  • mark128mark128 Posts: 1,029
    edited December 1969

    Sertorial said:
    More to the point, is 4.6 worth it? (I have 4.5)

    The 3Delight render time has been improved. I think that alone makes it worth it, even if you have no interest in any of the other enhancements.

  • ghastlycomicghastlycomic Posts: 2,531
    edited December 1969

    mark128 said:
    Sertorial said:
    More to the point, is 4.6 worth it? (I have 4.5)

    The 3Delight render time has been improved. I think that alone makes it worth it, even if you have no interest in any of the other enhancements.

    Very much this. The other render engines seem to have been debugged too.

  • SuperdogSuperdog Posts: 765
    edited May 2013

    How much faster is the render engine now? Has anyone compared render times using 4.5 and 4.6? I haven't installed the new version yet because I'm still working on some images for an important project for college and I can't take the risk of messing up my DAZ installation however unlikely that might be.

    Post edited by Superdog on
  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Superdog said:
    How much faster is the render engine now? Has anyone compared render times using 4.5 and 4.6? I haven't installed the new version yet because I'm still working on some images for an important project for college and I can't take the risk of messing up my DAZ installation however unlikely that might be.
    Not noticeable but as mentioned Bugs are fixed for many users. OpenGL renders for fast Preview or Animation is one I enjoy now.
  • mark128mark128 Posts: 1,029
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Superdog said:
    How much faster is the render engine now? Has anyone compared render times using 4.5 and 4.6? I haven't installed the new version yet because I'm still working on some images for an important project for college and I can't take the risk of messing up my DAZ installation however unlikely that might be.
    Not noticeable but as mentioned Bugs are fixed for many users. OpenGL renders for fast Preview or Animation is one I enjoy now.

    I was working on a test image that took just over 18 min to render with 4.5. I takes 14 min with 4.6.

    I re-rendered one of the biggest scenes I made. That scene took about 3 hr 10 min in 4.5. It takes 2 hr and 25 min in 4.6. The RAM usage was about the same, 14 GB for DAZ process and 15.5 GB for system.

    I consider those improvements significant.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    mark128 said:
    Jaderail said:
    Superdog said:
    How much faster is the render engine now? Has anyone compared render times using 4.5 and 4.6? I haven't installed the new version yet because I'm still working on some images for an important project for college and I can't take the risk of messing up my DAZ installation however unlikely that might be.
    Not noticeable but as mentioned Bugs are fixed for many users. OpenGL renders for fast Preview or Animation is one I enjoy now.

    I was working on a test image that took just over 18 min to render with 4.5. I takes 14 min with 4.6.

    I re-rendered one of the biggest scenes I made. That scene took about 3 hr 10 min in 4.5. It takes 2 hr and 25 min in 4.6. The RAM usage was about the same, 14 GB for DAZ process and 15.5 GB for system.

    I consider those improvements significant. At my render settings I've not seen those numbers. I'm happy your happy. I should have tested some lower settings before I posted. Those numbers are impressive.

  • mark128mark128 Posts: 1,029
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    mark128 said:
    Jaderail said:
    Superdog said:
    How much faster is the render engine now? Has anyone compared render times using 4.5 and 4.6? I haven't installed the new version yet because I'm still working on some images for an important project for college and I can't take the risk of messing up my DAZ installation however unlikely that might be.
    Not noticeable but as mentioned Bugs are fixed for many users. OpenGL renders for fast Preview or Animation is one I enjoy now.

    I was working on a test image that took just over 18 min to render with 4.5. I takes 14 min with 4.6.

    I re-rendered one of the biggest scenes I made. That scene took about 3 hr 10 min in 4.5. It takes 2 hr and 25 min in 4.6. The RAM usage was about the same, 14 GB for DAZ process and 15.5 GB for system.

    I consider those improvements significant. At my render settings I've not seen those numbers. I'm happy your happy. I should have tested some lower settings before I posted. Those numbers are impressive.

    All my renders are done with global shading rate at 0.2 and Pixel Samples X and Y at 16.

    Render times also depend a lot on how you do the lighting.

    I never use the UberEnviroment light.

    For the test scene I was talking about, I was using 3 UberArea Light planes, with one specular only spot to boost the specular. It was a skin tone test render with no hair. Render time would be much higher with any hair.

    The big scene had 12 V4/M4/V5/M5 character with clothes and hair (including some fiber mesh hair) plus some Lowrez characters (Lorenzo and Loretta LowRez) on a big set that included some transparency and reflection. There were no closeups of any of the characters. The lighting was all done with distant lights and linear point lights.

    In my comparison I was using exactly the same lighting with both 4.5 and 4.6, but your results may vary with different scenes and different kinds of lighting.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    mark128 said:
    All my renders are done with global shading rate at 0.2 and Pixel Samples X and Y at 16.

    Render times also depend a lot on how you do the lighting.

    I never use the UberEnviroment light.

    For the test scene I was talking about, I was using 3 UberArea Light planes, with one specular only spot to boost the specular. It was a skin tone test render with no hair. Render time would be much higher with any hair.

    The big scene had 12 V4/M4/V5/M5 character with clothes and hair (including some fiber mesh hair) plus some Lowrez characters (Lorenzo and Loretta LowRez) on a big set that included some transparency and reflection. There were no closeups of any of the characters. The lighting was all done with distant lights and linear point lights.

    In my comparison I was using exactly the same lighting with both 4.5 and 4.6, but your results may vary with different scenes and different kinds of lighting.

    Render settings close to same, I do use UE lots and I bet your PC rocks mine. But as we know UE is very render heavy. That you for the Info.
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