Making Archery Poses for Gia/Ranger Work

alex_bb8aa5da

I recently bought the archery Gia/ranger bundle, that includes archery poses and props (https://www.daz3d.com/ranger-bundle-for-genesis-2-female-s).  I can't get the arrows into the right place though, despite the presets. They appear at wrong angles somewhere at the figure's feet. Googling points out that the bow and arrow that comes with the bungle, is not the now and arrow the poses were designed to work with - however, that's from years ago. As I am seeing renders with this bundle, I'm hoping there is some workaround or trick? Or that there is a technique to getting the arrows manaually into the correct position?  Since the arrow need to interact with TWO object (cross the bow at the right spot and be gripped by fingers at the right spot) I can't figure out a tetris way of positioning it - the moment I get one connection point right, it all falls apart when I try to get the second point.  Ideas?  Is there a way to anchor one point of the arrow (ie. against the bow) while I fiddle with the second?  Or is the a way of making the poses work since they came together?

BeeMKay

Are you using Gia, or a different figure for it?

glaseye

I do have that bundle, though I do not have Gia. for me the poses do function, but need a lot of adjustment....

1st - load g2f; 2nd with g2f selected, load the bow prop; 3rd, with the bow selected, load the 'ranger arrow (bow)' prop. That parents the arrow to the bow

Then you can select one of the poses, but as said, you may need quite some manual adjustmenst to get all to fit properly; start with selecting g2f's (left hand) and try bend /twist/side-side adjustments.

After that, you may have to select the arrow prop and adjust it's poistion using the x,y, or z rotate and y translate axis (depending on the pose maybe also x and z translate

(and for the record, as far as I know, the arrow should actually be at the opposit side of the bow, but you get the idea ---- realised it too late )

 

alex_bb8aa5da

Bee - I'm using stephanie 6, who is still a G2f so I thought it would work...

Glaseye - thank you! - I will try that exact order. I see with a neutral pose and then add stuff, instead of posing the girl first.  My biggest issue was that arrows appeared no where near the bow and so twisted that I have no idea how align them properly.  I am also noticing that you are aligning the girl's hand to the arrow vs arrow to the hand first.

Once you have one point aligned, like how the hand grips the arrow, is it possible to "lock" that in, so i can fiddle with the pointy end of the arrow without the hand position going wonky?

glaseye

The only way I can think of to do what you want is to take the 'standalone' ranger arrow and adjust the center point of that arrow to the (near) end of the arrow shaft, using the 'Joint editor tool'. Then position that arrow in the right place on the right hand after applying the pose and parent that arrow to the right hand. You can then adjust the x,y,z rotation of the arrow untill it matches the bow..... Anyway, fiddling is needed.... and I'm not so sure what is the easiest and quickest way......

EDIT: on 2nd thought; adjust the x,y,z rotation of the arrow before parenting the arrow to the hand.......

On a side note; Stephanie 6 is a shape (morph) of G2F, and differs in scale/proportion from the original G2F and/or the 'Gia' shape. Pose presets are made for a specific figure and always need adjustments when used on a different figure/shape..... or prop.

 

alex_bb8aa5da

<<point of that arrow to the (near) end of the arrow shaft, using the 'Joint editor tool'>>

THAT is what I was looking for.  I just didn't know whether it existed and what it would be called :)

re side note: Ah, good point that I've not considered when purchasing...